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After U.S. exit, Asian nations try to save TPP trade deal

ReutersJanuary 24, 2017

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By Charlotte Greenfield and Stanley White

WELLINGTON/TOKYO (Reuters) - Australia and New Zealand said on Tuesday they hope to salvage the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) by encouraging China and other Asian countries to join the trade pact after U.S. President Donald Trump kept a promise to abandon the accord.

The TPP, which the United States had signed but not ratified, was a pillar of former U.S. President Barack Obama's policy to pivot to Asia.

Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe has touted it as an engine of economic reform, as well as a counter-weight to a rising China, which is not a TPP member.

Fulfilling a campaign pledge, Trump signed an executive order in the Oval Office on Monday pulling the United States out of the 2015 TPP agreement and distancing the United States from its Asian allies.

Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull said he had held discussions with Abe, New Zealand Prime Minister Bill English and Singapore Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong overnight about the possibility of proceeding without the United States.

"Losing the United States from the TPP is a big loss, there is no question about that," Turnbull told reporters in Canberra on Tuesday. "But we are not about to walk away ... certainly there is potential for China to join the TPP."

In Beijing, Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying did not say directly whether China would be interested in joining the TPP but that at a time of economic uncertainly the Asia-Pacific should make its own contributions to growth with openness.

"We think that in the present situation, no matter what happens, all should keep going down the path of open, inclusive, continuous development, seeking cooperation and win-win," Hua told a daily news briefing.

Obama had framed the TPP without China in an effort to write Asia's trade rules before Beijing could, establishing U.S. economic leadership in the region as part of his "pivot to Asia".

China has proposed a counter pact, the Free Trade Area of the Asia Pacific (FTAAP) and has championed the Southeast Asian-backed Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership (RCEP).

Hua said efforts on FTAAP should be stepped up, adding China hoped talks on RCEP could be concluded at an early date.

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New Zealand's English said the United States was ceding influence to China and the region's focus could switch to alternative trade deals.

"We've got this RCEP agreement with Southeast Asia, which up until now has been on a bit of a slow burn, but we might find the political will for that to pick up if TPP isn't going to proceed," English said.

Malaysia's trade minister said negotiators from the remaining TPP countries would be in "constant communication" to decide the best way forward.

"Notwithstanding the current position of the new U.S. administration on (TPP), we will continue to engage with our American colleagues to strengthen our bilateral trade and economic relations, given the U.S.’s importance as our third-largest trading partner and a major source of investment," Mustapa Mohamed said in a statement.

The TTP, which has been five years in the making, requires ratification by at least six countries accounting for 85 percent of the combined gross domestic product of the member nations.

Australia held open the possibility of China, the world's top exporter, joining a revised deal.

"The original architecture was to enable other countries to join," Australian Trade Minister Steven Ciobo told the Australian Broadcasting Corporation on Tuesday.

"Certainly I know that Indonesia has expressed interest and there would be scope for China if we are able to reformulate it."

Japan has led the push for the partnership, which includes Brunei, Canada, Chile, Malaysia, Mexico, Peru and Vietnam.

"There is no change to our view that free trade is the source of economic growth," Japanese Economy Minister Nobuteru Ishihara told reporters.

When asked whether Japan would be open to negotiating a bilateral trade pact with the United States, Ishihara said it was uncertain whether U.S. trade officials would start such negotiations.

Japanese Deputy Chief Cabinet Secretary Koichi Hagiuda said separately that Japan was not considering moves with other TPP members based on a lack of U.S. involvement.

"As Prime Minister Abe has made clear, TPP without the United States is meaningless and the balance of interests would crumble," he told a news conference, adding Japan would keep explaining the benefits of the pact for America.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/asian-tpp-nations-pledge-salvage-025248882.html
 
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That really was an uncalled for step by Trump,
What would US gain by letting go off good partners in Asia,
If China joins them, it'll do less good to US
 
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TPP needs a big brother to make it work, it's either US or China, otherwise everyone can forget about it.
 
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with china in this, US will not only lose but it will also back fire, since TPP was made to single out China.............
 
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That really was an uncalled for step by Trump,
What would US gain by letting go off good partners in Asia,
If China joins them, it'll do less good to US

TPP is not good for US in economic terms, but good in strategic terms. With US withdrawing from TPP, US risk loosing its leadership position in Asia Pacific, but will save jobs in US.

TPP needs a big brother to make it work, it's either US or China, otherwise everyone can forget about it.

China exports more than it consumes. Even with China in TPP, TPP is dead. The whole attraction of TPP is access to US markets.
 
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The whole attraction of TPP is access to US markets.
This can also change if China comes in. It can change into something that helps China to sell in this region

When China comes in and dictates the terms, TPP can be a huge windfall for China.
 
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This can also change if China comes in. It can change into something that helps China to sell in this region

The whole point of TPP is to put brakes to China from selling to US markets. As I said before, China exports more than it consumes. What China wants is markets to sell its products. That is why China is pushing for RCEP.
 
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TPP is not good for US in economic terms, but good in strategic terms. With US withdrawing from TPP, US risk loosing its leadership position in Asia Pacific, but will save jobs in US.



China exports more than it consumes. Even with China in TPP, TPP is dead. The whole attraction of TPP is access to US markets.

for saving jobs, he lost leverage on some quite entrusted partners,
China itself is slowly becoming a Consumer based economy so I wouldnt say TPP is dead even if China is there.
 
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The whole point of TPP is to put brakes to China from selling to US markets. As I said before, China exports more than it consumes. What China wants is markets to sell its products. That is why China is pushing for RCEP.
Two are better than one, the more the merriers if you are the boss.
 
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for saving jobs, he lost leverage on some quite entrusted partners,
China itself is slowly becoming a Consumer based economy so I wouldnt say TPP is dead even if China is there.

Even if China becomes a consumer based economy, it has enough manufacturing capability to satisfy its domestic consumption. What China wants are markets abroad to sell its products and not offer its markets to outsiders.
 
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There are things that China wants in this organization, it's plain to see. unimpeded access to every country's market.
 
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China dont need to save TPP, China has RCEP or whatever and AIIB.
 
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