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Interesting Indian plans! Remember,most Afghan Trade goes through Pakistan, seek Pak confidence 1st!:mod: :chilli:
As US chalks out exit plans, PM Manmohan eyes trip to Afghanistan

Elizabeth Roche,
Game-changing moves expected from US and others as the war against terror completes 10 years


Prime Minister Manmohan Singh is likely to visit Afghanistan next month with game-changing moves expected from key players, including the US, in the coming months as the war on terror completes 10 years.

India, which considers Afghanistan as a part of its extended neighbourhood and has invested $1.3 billion (around Rs.5,775 crore today) in aid and reconstruction projects, will also be hearing about US strategy in the region during the visit of Marc Grossman, the US special envoy for Afghanistan and Pakistan, this week. This is his first visit to India since taking over after Richard Holbrooke’s death in December.

Singh last visited Afghanistan in 2005. It also comes after Singh personally led an initiative that resumed diplomatic peace talks with Pakistan, suspended after the 26/11 terror attack in Mumbai in 2008.

“The dates (for Singh’s visit) are being worked out. It is likely to happen in the first half of May,” an Afghan diplomat in New Delhi said. “As you know, President Hamid Karzai had extended an invitation to the prime minister when he came” to India in February.

The ministry of external affairs, however, did not confirm the visit.

Singh’s visit will be taking place against the backdrop of major developments expected by the middle of the year, starting with a possible withdrawal of US troops in July from the insurgency wrecked country as promised by President Barack Obama in 2009. With a sizeable chunk of the troops expected to leave by the end of 2014, there are signs that Afghanistan’s neighbours are beginning to prepare for a post-American era.

“The visit will highlight India’s political commitment to Afghanistan and the Karzai government,” said former foreign secretary Kanwal Sibal. “It will signal India’s interest in keeping itself abreast of and influencing the developments in Afghanistan. It will also be a signal to Pakistan that India is not going to walk away from Afghanistan.”

After being seen on the side of the invading former Soviet Union due to close ties with Moscow, India saw its influence in the strategic country decline rapidly when the Pakistan-backed Taliban took control of Kabul in 1996. Islamabad has always wanted a friendly administration in Kabul that it can fall back on in case of a war with New Delhi. Since the ouster of the Taliban in November 2001, India has been working hard to shore up goodwill among the Afghans with a slew of low-profile development projects.

Obama, who ordered extra troops into Afghanistan in 2009 as part of a surge strategy to defeat the reviving Sunni Pashtun Taliban, assessed the situation in the region this week amid fresh signs of tension over the fight against militants along the Afghan-Pakistan border with key ally Pakistan.

“By all accounts, the surge is not working as well as it was made out to be,” said Lalit Mansingh, former foreign secretary, who was also India’s ambassador to the US. “The Taliban seems to be in control over much of Afghanistan and only a few very safe districts have been handed over to (the government). Otherwise, there has not been much progress militarily.”

Singh’s visit will also be an occasion for India to “assess the situation with reference to the Afghanistan-Pakistan dialogue with reference to the reconciliation process with the Taliban”, Sibal said.

He was referring to relations between Afghanistan and Pakistan, which were rocky with Karzai joining the chorus of those accusing the neighbouring country of supporting the Taliban, but improved in recent months. During a visit to Kabul on 16 April, Pakistan Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani and Karzai agreed to include Pakistani military and intelligence officials in a joint panel in talks with the Taliban to end the long drawn-out war that is wearying the international troops stationed there.

“Karzai has a problem with the United States just like Pakistan,” said Sibal.

The US has been pressing Pakistan to act against elements of the Taliban taking shelter in the region straddling Pakistan and Afghanistan. The US also suspects Pakistan’s military spy agency, ISI, of having close ties with insurgents fighting foreign troops trying to stabilize Afghanistan. Anti-US sentiments are also running high in Pakistan with the death of civilians in US drone attacks that are aimed at the Taliban.

In recent years, ties between the US and Karzai have also become strained, with Washington rapidly losing domestic support for the long-drawn-out war in Afghanistan, criticizing the Afghan president for not clamping down on corruption. Media reports say the US is also wary of Karzai’s peace talks with the Taliban—a move seen as an attempt by Karzai to widen his political base and ensure his political survival.

“Both countries like to deal with the situation independent of rather than be dictated to by US and it is here that they find common ground,” said Sibal.

According to a report in The Wall Street Journal, Gilani also urged Karzai against building a long-term strategic partnership with the US after international forces hand over all security duties to Afghan troops in 2014 and maintain just a token presence. Instead, Gilani reportedly urged Karzai to look to Pakistan—and its Chinese ally—for help in striking a peace deal with the Taliban and rebuilding the economy.

Mansingh expressed doubts about this, saying he was unsure how “two so-called failing states can come to such an agreement. The chemistry between Karzai and the US is not particularly good at the moment, but the benefit of the doubt should be given to the new envoy to the region, Grossman, who has been working with the two countries”.

Grossman, who is reaching New Delhi on Thursday, will interact with Indian officials in New Delhi on Friday, according to the official cited earlier.

One of the issues likely to figure in the talks is an agreement that the US is reportedly working out with Afghanistan on maintaining a permanent troop presence in that country that has reportedly caused unease in Russia and Iran.
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It is hoped that major Indian plans in Afghanistan are going to be un-veiled with devastating regional effects.
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VMansingh expressed doubts about this, saying he was unsure how “two so-called failing states can come to such an agreement.

calls it as he sees it, it seems
 
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What about $1.2 Billion so-called Indian investments in Afghanistan? India cannot afford to loose in Afghanistan, more so after what had happened in Sri Lanka backing LTTE terrorists, it was a major set-back to Tamils. Not again in Afghanistan, not another defeat. :hitwall:

I wonder, how India plays its cards now.
 
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What about $1.2 Billion so-called Indian investments in Afghanistan? India cannot afford to loose in Afghanistan, more so after what had happened in Sri Lanka backing LTTE terrorists, it was a major set-back to Tamils. Not again in Afghanistan, not another defeat. :hitwall:

I wonder, how India plays its cards now.

Ya whatever man..why not for once think straight? Afghanistan has resources and we would like to trade for those resources..Simple.
 
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Ya whatever man..why not for once think straight? Afghanistan has resources and we would like to trade for those resources..Simple.

Thats right, but that trade has to go through Pakistan. In it? Why not drop the plans in that article and be a nice little puppy with Pakistan...Pakistan wont bite =?
 
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India did play its cards well in Sri Lanka. In the end India did not allow US to have its base here at its foot steps. Sri Lanka likes to be with India but always play the china card to negotiate with India. This is understandable. Haaa Pakistan tries to find solace in all India's negotiations when this actually doesn't mean a single benefit for itself. Grow up Pakistan and look for your own goodness than talk about India and its problems.
 
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Thats right, but that trade has to go through Pakistan. In it? Why not drop the plans in that article and be a nice little puppy with Pakistan...Pakistan wont bite =?

LOL the world now know how to deal with Pakistan. We know who acts like a puppy to whom.More than us the Americans and the Chinese know it.
 
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LOL the world now know how to deal with Pakistan. We know who acts like a puppy to whom.More than us the Americans and the Chinese know it.

By your definition, India wins the "puppy" race hands down, Americans (new owners), British, Europeans, Israelis and Russians. And what really India is to them ----- > :taz::taz::taz: against Pakistan & China.
 
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Thats right, but that trade has to go through Pakistan. In it? Why not drop the plans in that article and be a nice little puppy with Pakistan...Pakistan wont bite =?
Yeah....its good for Pakistan also.....recently both India and Pakistan has decided to start cross-border trade...i just hope no more terror attack happens because everyone will lose in that case...

Just imagine the new TAPI pipeline and the vast reserve of natural resources in Afghanistan could bring peace in the region but Pakistan has to stop thinking that the whole world is conspiring against them....Many people in Pakistan also wants this....
 
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What about $1.2 Billion so-called Indian investments in Afghanistan? India cannot afford to loose in Afghanistan, more so after what had happened in Sri Lanka backing LTTE terrorists, it was a major set-back to Tamils. Not again in Afghanistan, not another defeat. :hitwall:

I wonder, how India plays its cards now.

Is that why we provided that much Aid to get rid of the LTTE in Sri Lanka? Non state Indian actors supported the LTTE, but GOI was always on the side of the sri lankan forces
 
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By your definition, India wins the "puppy" race hands down, Americans (new owners), British, Europeans, Israelis and Russians. And what really India is to them ----- > :taz::taz::taz: against Pakistan & China.

Which one of our countries is getting currently massacred by the americans?

Answer that and you'll know what the difference between a business venture and a puppy dog is
 
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By your definition, India wins the "puppy" race hands down, Americans (new owners), British, Europeans, Israelis and Russians. And what really India is to them ----- > :taz::taz::taz: against Pakistan & China.

Do you really follow international news? Both the US contenders and Russia is out of the race. This in spite of the aura created by Obama. We do not allow any of the countries in your list to bomb our country at will. Doesn't every country in that list bomb you in the name of NATO. LOL and your govt. denies approval in public and lick the wests a$$ when it comes to $$$$$$$$. Isn't that irony!?
 
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By your definition, India wins the "puppy" race hands down, Americans (new owners), British, Europeans, Israelis and Russians. And what really India is to them ----- > :taz::taz::taz: against Pakistan & China.

America, U.k, Europeans & russians all are partners of india in development race. only pakistan is a puppet in hands of western forces.
 
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