After India’s Skirmish With China, Is Pakistan Next?

[Imran Khan]

To do what exactly? If you have UN observers in there, ask them to report India's CFVs. Who's stopping you from doing that?

observers should be both sides so they can make a report of violation how can they only observe one team ?

 

[Mrc]

Yes

 

[Chhatrapati]

observers should be both sides so they can make a report of violation how can they only observe one team ?

Why? UN Observers are not Pakistanis, so they can give unbiased reports. Opportunity to nail India on CFVs.

 

[Imran Khan]

Why? UN Observers are not Pakistanis, so they can give unbiased reports. Opportunity to nail India on CFVs.

they have offices in delhi and srinagar too. my point is if india in honest let them sit on LOC nad see bythemselves . about nailing india our guns are enough to nail them we dont want further .

https://unmogip.unmissions.org/deployment

 

[Smoke]

1. They will amass all their weapons and ammunition.

2. While procuring their assets, they will destabilize the Nepali government and install their puppet.

3. After Nepal is neutralized, they will continue to engage Pakistan through BLA terrorists, hoping Pakistan takes action against India, verbally or physically.

4. In the mean time, they are trying to get the Americans involved in this war. US troops are already in Taiwan and with Israel loaning missile defence systems to India, it seems things are working out for them.

5. China is itching for India to make the first move. The fist fight in mid June was not enough to ensure a response with weaponized assets.

6. Pakistan and China are currently collaborating on how to take Kashmir, with China in the drivers seat. The Chinese are also asking the Pakistani side to refrain from making any statements on the matter and to just sit tight and watch.

 

[Ali_Baba]

surrender modi already playing dirty but he will not pick arms on pakistan since he learn a lesson on 27feb 2019

The biggest problem that India has right now, is that it can no longer predct the escalation ladder. Will Pakistan "wait" to be bombed like last time, or will Pakistan simply shoot down the IAF in Indian airspace, neutralise the threat and then let the Indians lie about "nothing happened, and nothing was shot down". I really do think the latter is now the ROE for PAF, as the IAF and Indian denial itself will descalate things. So, as long as the PAF takes the initiative first and shoots down IAF aircraft in India, it holds the ladder and the narrative. ie "IAF aircract posed a direct threat and were shot down while in Indian airspace to prevent loss of civilian lives.. etc".

The only way around this is for the IAF to fire first on PAF aircraft while they are in IAF airspace to try and knock them down first(possibility with Meteor nowe), then intrude into PAF airspace and then conduct their mission of bombing schools, etc..

Either way, a hard narrative for IAF/India right now.

 

[Imran Khan]

The biggest problem that India has right now, is that it can no longer predct the escalation ladder. Will Pakistan "wait" to be bombed like last time, or will Pakistan simply shoot down the IAF in Indian airspace, neutralise the threat and then let the Indians lie about "nothing happened, and nothing was shot down". I really do think the latter, is now the ROE for PAF, as the IAF denial itself will descalate things. So, as long as the PAF takes the initiative first, it holds the ladder and the narrative.

The only way around this is for the IAF to fire first on PAF aircraft while they are in IAF airspace, intrude PAF airspace and then conduct their mission of bombing schools, etc..

Either way, a hard narrative for IAF/India right now.

in recent air combats show us that PAF was right on 26feb sir . just having SAMs and using them blindly can make us like india or iran or ukrine . pakistan is major route of world air traffic . PAF will not jump on missiles to shot down indian early but next day we will grill them when sky will be clear .i was also fan of SAMs and early detect and shot but when we see three horrific mistakes i change my mind . PAF should calm and relax as they do . war is nto video game .

 

[Chhatrapati]

they have offices in delhi and srinagar too. my point is if india in honest let them sit on LOC nad see bythemselves

I don't see a reason why India should involve UN, they are not a player in our dispute since Shimla agreement. If you violate CFV we take it up with your corps commander, if we do, you take it up with our commanders.
UN has no enforcing mechanism against these CFVs. But if Pakistan wants to, you can send over UN officials to your side of LOC and prove them India is the aggressor.

 

[Mighty Lion]

Yes.
September is great for a war

 

[Imran Khan]

I don't see a reason why India should involve UN, they are not a player in our dispute since Shimla agreement. If you violate CFV we take it up with your corps commander, if we do, you take it up with our commanders.
UN has no enforcing mechanism against these CFVs. But if Pakistan wants to, you can send over UN officials to your side of LOC and prove them India is the aggressor.

they why UNMOGIP offices in delhi and sri nagar ? jsut because you guys say it can not be removed from UN agenda .unless china pakistan also agreed that it solved .

 

[Chhatrapati]

they why UNMOGIP offices in delhi and sri nagar ? jsut because you guys say it can not be removed from UN agenda .unless china pakistan also agreed that it solved .

haha you are answering your own questions. Like I said, we are not interested in getting UN involved to discuss CFVs. If you wish, you can and expose India with the help of the UN. Why don't you do it?

 

[Dalit]

Just chill Dude , You will wake some morning , turn on your TV and see a news flash ,
" PAF shot down Two Rafales entering Pakistani Airspace . DG ISPR"

It will have to be done. We have a golden opportunity to put a dagger into Modi's chest whilst China is massacring Indian dogs. Instead the decision-makers are resting on their laurels and as usual crying about how India is a Nazi state. We already know that and so does the world.

The decision-makers needs to wake up fast. The world doesn't give a shit about our concerns. In fact they turn a blind eye to Hindustan's killing and massacring of Kashmiris. Here we are fooling ourselves that the world is going to condemn India. They won't. Our expectations from Western nations are flawed. India is a Western lackey against China. The West won't condemn Indian atrocities. The West arms and supports Indian state. We don't need noise or PR campaign. We need action. The time of PR campaigns is over. If the PR campaign had any effect, Kashmiris wouldn't be suffering after Modi blatantly imprisoned the entire valley.

Time has come to take matters into our own hands. India openly supports BLA terrorists who spread death and destruction in our cities. Our leaders are taking a winter nap. Total disconnect with reality. It cannot go on like this.

The American deep state and its Western lackeys are preparing India to take on Pakistan and China. Recent brazen Indian moves in Chinese territory is clear proof. The nexus is whispering India to be more agressive against China and Pakistan. There is not a shred of doubt about this. Pakistan and China need to counter this nexus by hurting its little dog Hindustan. We need to send a message that there are severe consequences. China and Pakistan need to work in sync. We need to coordinate and take on Western poodle Hindustan.