After 4 Crashes, Ecuador Grounds Fleet of Indian Dhruv Choppers, Cancels Contract

[Edevelop]

Pakistan made choppers dont crash coz there are no Pakistan made choppers

No chopper is better than a coffin chopper.

 

[navtrek]

Quality of indian made stuff . speaks for itself .

One was assigned for president . atleast president k helicopter ki maintenance ka khayal to rkha jata ha or usay koi low skill pilot bi ni urata.

HAL, which had provided ground support for these choppers in Ecuador, have said that the two choppers that crashed allegedly because of mechanical defects went down after the ground support period with Ecuador had ended.

Source: After 4 Crashes, Ecuador Grounds Fleet of Indian Dhruv Choppers, Cancels Contract

 

[JOEY TRIBIANI]

dont get me started on 'our' product (JF-17)

Lolz dukhti rag (tejas) daba de .

 

[JOEY TRIBIANI]

The only customer JF-17 has got is the PAF. TEJAS has been inducted by IAF, while JF-17 has been rejected by the country of its origin.(China) tells a lot about the capability of the fighter.

Why to make a single engine aircraft when u can afford tow engine jet . china's reason .

Myanmar is the first official costumer of our plane .

While your government is pressurizing ur airforce to induct tejas .

 

[volatile]

We Pakistanis know our limitations and we dont put our mouth where it dont fit .We will supply JF17 thunder and Inshallah they will last .But we will never claimed some thing we didnt make as our indigenous

 

[AyanRay]

Why to make a single engine aircraft when u can afford tow engine jet . china's reason .

Myanmar is the first official costumer of our plane .

While your government is pressurizing ur airforce to induct tejas .

Really, that's why China is not inducting J-17? Then why did it develop it in the first place and why are they inducting J-10?

J-17 can only serve the underdeveloped countries who cannot afford modern fighter jets.

 

[Luca1]

No chopper is better than a coffin chopper.

This incident will warn other countries about buyingIndian choppers. First contract, failed. This will put a dent on the superpower braggings.

 

[Hindustani78]

This incident will warn other countries about buyingIndian choppers. First contract, failed. This will put a dent on the superpower braggings.

Dhruv is part of Indian armed forces

 

[Ind4Ever]

Enough said

"HAL, which had provided ground support for these choppers in Ecuador, have said that the two choppers that crashed allegedly because of mechanical defects went down after the ground support period with Ecuador had ended.

There are more than 200 Dhruv choppers in service with the Indian Armed Forces which use them extensively. The chopper, which is capable of high altitude operations, had played a major role in the rescues in Uttarakhand during the Kedarnath floods."

 

[Abingdonboy]

Looks at this "flying coffin" pilots must be terrified even looking at it let alone flying in it:

Look at all the LOSERS on this thread, so quick to disparage others and jump on inconsequential news.

Maybe. No one is refuting that. But in a huge B2B transaction, you do research on your customers as well.

Make them pilots go through a training course and certify the worthy ones. Obviously this will cost you money which can be factored in bid quote.

When you come with a new product in market, you have to go the extra mile to ensure there is no negative associations with the brand.

You can train the pilots as per your contract but you can't hold the hands of them and the ground crews for the life of the product, show me another OEM anywhere in the world that has done so. The Ecuadorians are notorious for their poor flight safety record, it is no surprise the ALH met a similar fate in their hands and that too once the support contract with HAL had ELAPSED.

Ecuador's experience with the ALH remains an outlier and is not at all reflective of the rest of the fleet which continues to have an excellent service record in all climates and mission profiles.

 

[Hindustani78]

Ecuador cancels Rs 200 crore order of seven ALHs after four crashes - The Economic Times

NEW DELHI: India's first military chopper export has gone bust with Ecuador announcing plans to cancel the order after four out of the seven advanced light helicopters (ALH) supplied by HAL have crashed, brining into serious question the safety of the remaining.

Ecuadorian defence minister Fernando Cordero has announced plans to cancel the contract, seven years after the Rs 200 crore deal was signed in 2008 and retire the three remaining choppers. While HAL is yet to receive the official order for cancellation, officials told ET that it would affect pending upgrades and maintenance orders.

The cancellation is especially bitter as HAL had sold the ALH to Ecuador at a price below the manufacturing cost, in the hope that the money would be recovered in service and maintenance contracts through its 20 year service life.

While the ALH has been exported to other nations including Nepal, Mauritius and Maldives, Ecuador was the only order the Indian chopper had bagged in the face of international competition. However, the trouble with the Ecuadorian fleet started within a year of the signing of the contract with the first chopper crashing in October 2009. Though the crash was attributed to pilot error, it took place during the national day celebration of the nation, bringing the fleet's troubles to international attention. Out of the four choppers that have crashed, two are attributed to pilot error.

However, an Indian CAG report has pointed that ALH crashes have taken place due to a design flaw that leads to a loss of control when it is being rolled back from a left turn.


The two other choppers with Ecuador have crashed due to mechanical failure. HAL officials pointed out that the two choppers were being maintained by Ecuador and that the Indian responsibility was limited to providing technical support and spares. While the terms and conditions of the cancellation are yet to be shared, HAL will also explore legal options as payments for several small sub contracts is still pending.


The ALH has had a patchy safety record with several crashes in India as well. In 2014, two ALH choppers crashed in the Siachen area alone. Manufacturer Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL), had sold the ALH even below the manufacturing price to be competitive with other global bidders. A 2013 CAG report had revealed that HAL had quoted a price of Rs 204 crore for the supply of seven choppers, which was Rs 52crore below the manufacturing cost of the choppers.

 

[OTTOMAN]

Quality of indian made stuff . speaks for itself .

One was assigned for president . atleast president k helicopter ki maintenance ka khayal to rkha jata ha or usay koi low skill pilot bi ni urata.

Make in India... falling apart.

 

[Hindustani78]

Make in India... falling apart.





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Its not .

 

[OTTOMAN]

Dhruv is part of Indian armed forces

Like Tejas will be?

 

[Hindustani78]

Like Tejas will be?

Tejas will become more and more advance in the coming years .