Afghanistan losing interest in trade links with Pakistan

[khail007]

It is a win win situation, we are in the process of putting an end to RAW and Afghan Intelligence subversive activties in Pakistan.

As compared to Chinese economy and its output/input thru CPEC, Afghan trade will be a pinch of dust. Afghan transit trade proved in the past as most disastrous for Pakistan' economy and infrastructure.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

It is a win win situation, we are in the process of putting an end to RAW and Afghan Intelligence subversive activties in Pakistan.

As compared to Chinese economy and its output/input thru CPEC, Afghan trade will be a pinch of dust. Afghan transit trade proved in the past as most disastrous for Pakistan' economy and infrastructure.

EXACTLY........ Pakistan has an economic gem and catalyst called CPEC that no other nation on earth has and that could potentially propel the whole of Pakistan to world class economic standards of GCC nations and Singapore and some here on PDF are worried about meningless tokenism with improving ties with Afghanistan and/or india. Since the day Pakistan was created we have survived and prospered without these nations why change that now. The logic of some is highly disturbing.

 

[bananarepublic]

This is excellent news!!....From a Pakistani POV we don't need anything from Afghanistan or india. All Pakistan needs is for CPEC to do well and act as a catalyst to kick start ALL parts of the Pakistan economy. That should be our only focus. Small economic crumbs from nations that are our enemies are completely irrelevent and non-beneficial to us. Let all Pakistanis here be honest and avoid being PC. Apart from our relationship with China, all other nation's relationships with Pakistan are meaningless and non beneficial to Pakistan. We gain nothing from other countries other than China. Aghanistan, india and america in particular are bad news for Pakistan. Ultimately I hope Pakistan cuts off ALL links at ALL levels with both india and Afghanistan. Ultimately we gain nothing from them and they both are enemies.

Actually we need Afghanistan for trade to the (CAR) Central Asian Republic which holds more potential than any country we could trade with almost everything is imported there from fabrics to basic medicine. hell most of them don`t even get vaccinations because these vaccines cost around $500.Secondly the people in the West and North-West part of country are ethnically connected to the people of Afghanistan Including both Pashtuns and Farsi`es. Also people in Pakistan mostly hold sympathy for the Muslims Brothers in Afghanistan and no one can deny that.

EXACTLY........ Pakistan has an economic gem and catalyst called CPEC that no other nation on earth has and that could potentially propel the whole of Pakistan to world class economic standards of GCC nations and Singapore and some here on PDF are worried about meningless tokenism with improving ties with Afghanistan and/or india. Since the day Pakistan was created we have survived and prospered without these nations why change that now. The logic of some is highly disturbing.

CPEC may be a game changer to the Pakistan Economy but it gives no improvement in the social aspect in Pakistan it does not include any effective social reforms to increase the quality of life of people or provide them with an effective long term plan for social betterment in that particular region.

 

[RoadRunner401]

Afghanistan losing interest in trade links with Pakistan
By Peer Muhammad
Published: April 21, 2016
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Afghanistan’s disinterest means that Pakistan has potentially lost a great opportunity to build strategic trade ties with regional economies. PHOTO: FILE

ISLAMABAD: Afghan authorities appear to have lost interest in pushing forward any trade related agreements with Pakistan with the alternative route via Iran close to being finalised.

Last week, on April 11, Iran, Afghanistan and India finished negotiating the details of the trilateral transport and transit pact, meant to provide legal framework to operate trade corridors via Iran’s Chabahar port.

India-Afghanistan trade through Pakistan

This development could possibly downgrade Pakistan’s importance from being the primary facilitator of India-Afghanistan trade to a mere back-up. This means that Pakistan has potentially lost a great opportunity to build strategic trade ties with regional economies.

Officials in the Ministry of Commerce told The Express Tribune that Afghan authorities were slower in responding to the proposed bilateral and transit trade related matters and it seemed that they were least interested towards Pakistan and would rather devote their time and energy towards materialising the trilateral agreement with Iran and India.

“All this happened because Pakistan refused to include India in the Pak-Afghan transit trade agreement,” noted the official.

Afghanistan insists that India must be part of the transit trade agreement in the same way as Pakistan uses Afghan soil to reach Central Asian states.

Afghanistan, Pakistan open key economic, trade talks

The officer cited a draft agreement pertaining to the Preferential Trade Agreement (PTA) that the ministry had sent months ago. He insisted that there has been no response from the other side.

“We have learnt that they have shared the draft agreement with their security agencies for clearance, which is surprising for us,” said the official.

Moreover, the maiden meeting of the Pak-Afghan Joint Business Council (JBC) has not been held even after its establishment around five months ago to discuss issues and to devise strategies for enhancing bilateral trade.

The JBC was supposed to hold its first meeting in February 2015, but it could not take place.

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“We have again asked the Pakistan Federation of Chambers of Commerce and Industry (FPCCI) to set another date in this regard. However, the ministry has not received any response from FPCCI. The members of the JBC have already been notified from each side.”

Published in The Express Tribune, April 21st, 2016.

I couldn't be happier, I would love to see our borders with Afghanistan closed completely 100% not even a bird allowed to cross border dead or alive.

 

[Serpentine]

Just imagine if the flow of drugs shifts from Pakistan to Iran because the logistics, people-to-people ties are greater there.

Thanks to Afghanistan and Pakistan borders, majority of drug dealers choose to come to Iran and go to Europe and rest of ME, and because of that we seize the largest amount of drugs in the world annually.
So you are deeply mistaken if you think you are getting more drugs compared to us. Flow of drugs is already towards Iran. It can't get worse.

And btw, improving economic ties between Iran and Afghanistan doesn't mean dealers will stop drug smuggling into Pakistan, it's the opposite. The more prosperous the area gets, the less space for criminals exists.

 

[mourning sage]

- I would say lose-lose situation
- Instead of the region utilizing all the routes to do commerce, we are still stuck in da 70s mentality.
- China and India have differences but they still do business.

PS : no trolling here please.


http://tribune.com.pk/story/1088955...losing-interest-in-trade-links-with-pakistan/

I appreciate your enthusiasm. What you must keep in mind though is that for the best interest of out nation, we must build that wall. Pakistan is genuinely trying to get that peace deal brokered, but your nation itself doesnt wish for peace anymore. If you want to continue (by you i mean your nation, what you or i think is of no importance because its the holistic picture we're concerned with here) to wrinkle up whatever ties we have left, i think we need to move on and let you manage your own mess. Afghanistan needs a port, in Gwadar, it will have a future. however, if its needs are met by Chabahar, then sure go ahead with that, after all national interests are more important.

 

[RoadRunner401]

Actually we need Afghanistan for trade to the (CAR) Central Asian Republic which holds more potential than any country we could trade with almost everything is imported there from fabrics to basic medicine. hell most of them don`t even get vaccinations because these vaccines cost around $500.Secondly the people in the West and North-West part of country are ethnically connected to the people of Afghanistan Including both Pashtuns and Farsi`es. Also people in Pakistan mostly hold sympathy for the Muslims Brothers in Afghanistan and no one can deny that.

Hate to tell you, most in Pakistan hold zero to none sympathy for Afghans, so you are, then write you're (the word your is correct as a possessive form, e.g.: Let's go to your house).">your old failed argument (let's keep taking it up the wazoo because of Muslim brotherhood or Ummah is dead). Don't believe me, ask the guys on forum most wants Afghans deported and borders sealed.
Sorry buddy, Pakistan foreign policy should be in favor of Pakistan. Trade with Afghanistan cost us billions in lost revenues not to mention heroin and weapons.
People in Pakistan are connected to Afghanistan, so, people in Pakistan are also ethnically connected to India, What's your Point?

 

[Musafir117]

Afghanistan is a Ehsan Farmoosh nation, we nothing getting from them other than illegal arms and drugs and give them dry port facilities to import their goods mainly used automobile parts which almost hold by Afghans. Make more bigger wall than China Wall along side Pak Afghan border. A thousands time thanks to India or Iran to deal with them.

 

[A-Team]

Thanks to Afghanistan and Pakistan borders, majority of drug dealers choose to come to Iran and go to Europe and rest of ME, and because of that we seize the largest amount of drugs in the world annually.
So you are deeply mistaken if you think you are getting more drugs compared to us. Flow of drugs is already towards Iran. It can't get worse.

And btw, improving economic ties between Iran and Afghanistan doesn't mean dealers will stop drug smuggling into Pakistan, it's the opposite. The more prosperous the area gets, the less space for criminals exists.

But he is too emotionally charged to think that objective

Actually we need Afghanistan for trade to the (CAR) Central Asian Republic which holds more potential than any country we could trade with almost everything is imported there from fabrics to basic medicine. hell most of them don`t even get vaccinations because these vaccines cost around $500.Secondly the people in the West and North-West part of country are ethnically connected to the people of Afghanistan Including both Pashtuns and Farsi`es. Also people in Pakistan mostly hold sympathy for the Muslims Brothers in Afghanistan and no one can deny that.



CPEC may be a game changer to the Pakistan Economy but it gives no improvement in the social aspect in Pakistan it does not include any effective social reforms to increase the quality of life of people or provide them with an effective long term plan for social betterment in that particular region.

But we have some other keyboard warriors who are too emotionally charged to think objectively like you

Peace

Afghanistan is a Ehsan Farmoosh nation, we nothing getting from that land of selfish illegal arms and drugs and give them dry port facilities to import their goods mainly used automobile parts which almost hold by Afghans. Make more bigger wall than China Wall along side Pak Afghan border and let them kill each other freely and save our side. A thousands time thanks to India or Iran to deal with them.

Troll alert, reported.

I couldn't be happier, I would love to see our borders with Afghanistan closed completely 100% not even a bird allowed to cross border dead or alive.

But luckily nobody cares for you what you feel or think

EXACTLY........ Pakistan has an economic gem and catalyst called CPEC that no other nation on earth has and that could potentially propel the whole of Pakistan to world class economic standards of GCC nations and Singapore and some here on PDF are worried about meningless tokenism with improving ties with Afghanistan and/or india. Since the day Pakistan was created we have survived and prospered without these nations why change that now. The logic of some is highly disturbing.

CPEC sounds very good hope you guys proper from it, is it wise to put all your eggs into one basket? I interact closely with the chinese, trust me getting a free lunch for the chinese is next to impossible.

 

[Ryuzaki]

Hopefully Chahbahar port will benefit Indian exporters,currently trade b/w India and Iran is in favour of Iran.

CPEC sounds very good hope you guys proper from it, is it wise to put all your eggs into one basket? I interact closely with the chinese, trust me getting a free lunch for the chinese is next to impossible.

CPEC is an excellent deal for Chinese,they will drive Pakistan to bankruptcy with their high interest loans.

 

[Kompromat]

Afghanistan is going in self harm mode which is not good.

 

[Musafir117]

But he is too emotionally charged to think that objective



But we have some other keyboard warriors who are too emotionally charged to think objectively like you

Peace



Troll alert, reported.



But luckily nobody cares for you what you feel or think



CPEC sounds very good hope you guys proper from it, is it wise to put all your eggs into one basket? I interact closely with the chinese, trust me getting a free lunch for the chinese is next to impossible.

What did you found in post to label it trolling? Pakistan is 10000000 time better without Afghanistan What we need a wall like China to separate us from that barbarian nation.

 

[I.R.A]

Afghanistan is going in self harm mode which is not good.

Kabul only....................... not Afghanistan. We should start differentiating between the two now, it has been long overdue, no more making them understand what is good for them and what is bad, they don't want to listen so be it.

 

[A-Team]

What did you found in post to label it trolling? Pakistan is 10000000 time better without Afghanistan What we need a wall like China to separate us from that barbarian nation.

Ok genius

Kabul only....................... not Afghanistan. We should start differentiating between the two now, it has been long overdue, no more making them understand what is good for them and what is bad, they don't want to listen so be it.

Ok genius

 

[CriticalThinker02]

Troll alert, reported.

Stating facts is not trolling sir, a very capable ethnic majority group will finally take back what was theirs and we will have strong ties with such a capable ally, only a matter of time.