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Afghanistan agrees to pact with Iran, while resisting US accord

Its a stupid move. If he forces U.S. led coalition forces out. Whos going to help him if the Taliban gains territory and power? Is Iran going to help him under this so called security pact? Iran wants U.S. forces out does not mean helping Karzai stay in power.
Iran might provide support, they supported northen alliance earlier and were opposed to taliban. BTW is not US claiming most operations are afgan led and they are doing supporting role?
 
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Iran might provide support, they supported northen alliance earlier and were opposed to taliban. BTW is not US claiming most operations are afgan led and they are doing supporting role?

Seriously the Afghan army is just not yet ready as you believe. Hence why the U.S. wants to stay longer to help them. They could claim its support role, but in reality its pretty much U.S. leading instead.

By the way the Iranian support for NA was not enough. They were losing until the U.S. led coalition invaded and overthrew the Taliban.
 
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Thanks for the help but you only did that when we came in. Not before. No disrespect. NA was still losing before 9/11 and the death of Mahsood.
There is a difference, NA was a loose coalition and ANA is a semi trained army. It is much easier to support ANA.
 
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Thanks for the help but you only did that when we came in. Not before. No disrespect. NA was still losing before 9/11 and the death of Mahsood

Not entirely correct. In fact, before the Americans engaged in Afghanistan, there were already Iranian agents on the ground in Afghanistan, providing intelligence to US officials later.

I'll quote:

In the chaotic days after the attacks of September 11th, Ryan Crocker, then a senior State Department official, flew discreetly to Geneva to meet a group of Iranian diplomats. “I’d fly out on a Friday and then back on Sunday, so nobody in the office knew where I’d been,” Crocker told me. “We’d stay up all night in those meetings.” It seemed clear to Crocker that the Iranians were answering to Suleimani, whom they referred to as “Haji Qassem,” and that they were eager to help the United States destroy their mutual enemy, the Taliban. Although the United States and Iran broke off diplomatic relations in 1980, afterAmerican diplomats in Tehran were taken hostage, Crocker wasn’t surprised to find that Suleimani was flexible. “You don’t live through eight years of brutal war without being pretty pragmatic,” he said. Sometimes Suleimani passed messages to Crocker, but he avoided putting anything in writing. “Haji Qassem’s way too smart for that,” Crocker said. “He’s not going to leave paper trails for the Americans.”

Before the bombing began, Crocker sensed that the Iranians were growing impatient with the Bush Administration, thinking that it was taking too long to attack the Taliban. At a meeting in early October, 2001, the lead Iranian negotiator stood up and slammed a sheaf of papers on the table. “If you guys don’t stop building these fairy-tale governments in the sky, and actually start doing some shooting on the ground, none of this is ever going to happen!” he shouted. “When you’re ready to talk about serious fighting, you know where to find me.” He stomped out of the room. “It was a great moment,” Crocker said.

The coöperation between the two countries lasted through the initial phase of the war. At one point, the lead negotiator handed Crocker a map detailing the disposition of Taliban forces. “Here’s our advice: hit them here first, and then hit them over here. And here’s the logic.” Stunned, Crocker asked, “Can I take notes?” The negotiator replied, “You can keep the map.” The flow of information went both ways. On one occasion, Crocker said, he gave his counterparts the location of an Al Qaeda facilitator living in the eastern city of Mashhad. The Iranians detained him and brought him to Afghanistan’s new leaders, who, Crocker believes, turned him over to the U.S. The negotiator told Crocker, “Haji Qassem is very pleased with our coöperation.”

Dexter Filkins: Qassem Suleimani, the Middle East’s Most Powerful Operative : The New Yorker
 
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Not entirely correct. In fact, before the Americans engaged in Afghanistan, there were already Iranian agents on the ground in Afghanistan, providing intelligence to US officials later.

I'll quote:



Dexter Filkins: Qassem Suleimani, the Middle East’s Most Powerful Operative : The New Yorker

You provided intel and had men on the ground. Did you start the uprising before the invasion? Did you do anything significant during the Afghan civil war? Turn the tide perhaps. I'm not denying Iran's involvement and contribution. But at the same time I believe that Iran will not contribute anything significantly to help fight the Taliban if the U.S. led coalition forces withdraw if Karzai forces us to. All you can do is gather intel. Not actually sending heavy military forces to prevent the overthrow of the govt.
 
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What uprising?, Taliban are only successful because of the public support they have, am not sure where the uprising came in from.

Well done Afghanistan, you have always been independent minded people and I am sure no force on earth can make you sign something that you don't want to.

Great day, great news, it's time Iran and Afghanistan became close after all they are the same people.
 
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