Afghan Govt claims Pak Army Captain, suicide bombers arrested in Afghanistan

[karan.1970]

Your diversion attempt is that you're bringing in Pakistan's credibility when discussing GoA credibility. Pakistan's credibility is irrelevant when questioning GoA credibility. Pakistan not having credibility or having any credibility is completely irrelevant.

Perhaps an analogy. There's 2 thieves. One makes fun of the other calling that person a thief. The other says it's hypocritical for a thief to call someone else a thief. It is hypocritical, however my main point, claiming hypocrisy still does not change the fact that the other person is a thief.

Same thing here. It is irrelevant what the credibility of GoP. Credibility of GoA needs to be looked at by itself.

There's a logical inference rule called Simplification.

Suppose A is true AND B is true. From that, we can conclude A is true. Very elementary, yes, but this is exactly what I am saying and you're not understanding.

Suppose GoA has no credibility and GoP has no credibility. GoP not having any credibility is completely irrelevant as it still stands that GoA has no credibility. Just substitude A = GoA having no credibility and B = GoP having no credibility in the formula above.

So we are saying the same thing here.. May be I was not clear before. I am not defending the credibility of Afg govt, but questioning the standing of Pakistanis to call Afg govt as non credible. So while Afg govt may or may not be credible enough, Pakistanis by the virtue of their policies in the past can not raise noise about it..

Just as in your example, when thief number 1 can not make fun of thief number 2 being a thief


Note: Not calling Pakistan a thief..

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

So we are saying the same thing here.. May be I was not clear before. I am not defending the credibility of Afg govt, but questioning the standing of Pakistanis to call Afg govt as non credible. So while Afg govt may or may not be credible enough, Pakistanis by the virtue of their policies in the past can not raise noise about it..

Just as in your example, when thief number 1 can not make fun of thief number 2 being a thief

That line of thinking does not stop India from accusing Pakistan of all sorts of things now does it?

 

[Ahmad]

The Afghan people over whelmingly prefer India to Pakistan. Whatever good will there was towards Pakistan has been severely degraded by Pakistans actions, which we are slowly waking up to

Historically Afghanistan has always had cordial relations with India. Frankly, its because we consider them our natural, legitimate neighbours

I believe Afghanistan( actually those who have this idea not afghanistan as a whole) need to look after its present territory and bring progress to it rather than having eye on other people's soil.

 

[DaRk WaVe]

Historically Afghanistan has always had cordial relations with India. Frankly, its because we consider them our natural, legitimate neighbours

i ve laughing on this line for like 15 mins


Do one thing Hash Boy, let us know when you have a full control over your damn Capital Kabul, then come back & talk we will decide who's going to be your legitimate neighbor, right now most of the Afghans like you are sitting in Pakistan, eating from Pakistan & then abusing Pakistan, if you love your country so much then just go back to your country of Stone Age & work for it, it needs you, show some guts ,you people don't even deserve to be called Pushtuns etc because the people with 'values' do give respect to the people from whom they eat for their F-king survival, half of your population is sitting in Pakistan & they dont even want to go back, why is that?

why cant India cant take these 'illegal, unfaithful SOBs'?

Simple, because you people are simply 'GOOD for NOTHING', except taking up Heroine & Hash & living in a delusional history of your 'glory' & BTW i know that Drug Addicts cannot be treated in your country, so come to Pakistan for that in a 'container' or go to your 'legitimate neighbor' they will treat you for free

 

[SMC]

So we are saying the same thing here.. May be I was not clear before. I am not defending the credibility of Afg govt, but questioning the standing of Pakistanis to call Afg govt as non credible. So while Afg govt may or may not be credible enough, Pakistanis by the virtue of their policies in the past can not raise noise about it..

Just as in your example, when thief number 1 can not make fun of thief number 2 being a thief


Note: Not calling Pakistan a thief..

Yup, I am just going by the assumption that Pakistan is analogous to thief for the sakes of argument, not actually saying it is.

My main point is that people here aren't part of GoP. And GoP being credible or not credible is completely irrelevant. That's what I was talking about when it comes to diversion.

 

[T-Faz]

The Afghan people over whelmingly prefer India to Pakistan. Whatever good will there was towards Pakistan has been severely degraded by Pakistans actions, which we are slowly waking up to

Historically Afghanistan has always had cordial relations with India. Frankly, its because we consider them our natural, legitimate neighbours

I've had enough of this BS, we helped you in your hour of need, gave shelter, food, not to mention all the money Afghani's make through remittances and trade from Pakistan. This is how you and your people talk about us.

Pakistan should cut off cordial relations with Afghanistan, return the million of Afghanis that have wrecked our counrty and let India have them. We can sustain ourselves with enemies on both sides, Iran is our friend and we need to work with them, they will atleast have a two way mutual relation.

I have read for too many comments from these Afgani's blaming us for everything that has happened to them. I remeber my Grandfather and father had to work four times as hard to accomodate the millions that poured into Pakistan during the soviet era. Shelter, jobs, food and what not was presented from our dirt poor country to these people who were touted as our islamic guests.

Shamless fools, Zia was the biggest blunder in the history of Pakistan. That B@stard and Islamization has caused us nothing but pain and grief.

Let us go back to the pre Zia days. Let us mend our relations with Iran, and forget these guys. God will help us, we do not need strategic depth, come what may, we will fight on.

Ask those who had to personally suffer in Pakistan because a bunch of idiots wanted to bring in Communism to Afghanistan.

All this is the fault of Mother Russia and Dauds PDPA.

Edit, I remember a few years ago I was studying in scotland, there was an afghani kid who was in my school too and I used to help him with english and other matters. One day I saw him getting picked upon by a large bunch of guys who were hitting him. Me, being a pakistani jumped in saved him, I beat up a guy who turned out to be someone you do not want to mess with.

From that moment onward, I had to run home from school everyday because I did not want to get beaten up and I lost all friends. I was able to starve off any attack for a month when one day they got me and I got the worst beating of my life.

Bari Dulhai hui. Just like Pakistan got lots of beatings from KGB, RAW and KHAD in the lete 80's

 

[karan.1970]

That line of thinking does not stop India from accusing Pakistan of all sorts of things now does it?

You will need to explain this a bit...

 

[HAWK73]

Afghan-Indo mission is same against Pakistan.
Both are enemies of Pakistan. This is what I personally believe and trust on it.