Advance surface to air missiles vs PAF 1965.CIA secret report.

[BHarwana]

Well we all know how PAF dominated the skies in 1965 war crushing Indian airforce but to put in prospective PAF was not doing this at advantage of any military technology. This is the proof that the main reason for PAF success has always been the man behind the machine.

PAF has always flourished in the face of most difficult odds a Cia secret report from 1965 shows that India in 1964 received the most advance surface to air missile of soviet union to keep PAF at bay but failed to contain the highly skilled pilots of PAF.

This was considered the worst threat to any fighter jet even in the most advanced airforces like USA but PAF has always perceived its reputation and turned the odds to it advantage. September 1965 will always be remembered when technology failed at hands of PAF skill set.

Even today India has a Sam site at chandigarh Airport now loaded with advance version of SA-2 but still bearing the scars and lost dignity at hands of PAF.

This shows the clear intentions of Indian War mongering machinery. When ever India gained any advantage in one or another sort of military technology they attempt to undermine Pakistan's security and disturb the peace and calm in South Asian region.

Soon India will receive it new surface to air missiles S400 from Russia and will start another misadventure against Pakistan but then again there is PAF which has been ruling and dominating these skies for decades.

 

[Rafale+Meteor+Spectra]

Here is truth:

On September 15, the RB-57F was fired upon by a pair of SA-2 SAMs while it was beginning its descent towards Peshawar from Ambala. The SAMs exploded near the RB-57F, causing extensive structural damage, but the aircraft was able to make a successful forced landing at Peshawar. The aircraft was repaired by Pakistan and later returned to the USA.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/1965-war-role-of-the-rb-57f.60610/

 

[Trango Towers]

The greatest weapon is the mind. Use it well. You weapons are just tools. Spice 2000 in the hands of an Indian is like allowing a baby with hammer near drinking glasses. There is only one outcome and it's not good

 

[PakShaheen79]

The greatest weapon is the mind. Use it well. You weapons are just tools. Spice 2000 in the hands of an Indian is like allowing a baby with hammer near drinking glasses. There is only one outcome and it's not good

I agree with your argument that mind is real weapon. But if you apply the same, this weapon has tremendous ability of upgrading itself learning from past. Indians did make a massive miss using Spice 2000 but we must never lower our guards or not fall in this trap of overconfidence that they will not comeback hence OP's point.

 

[Areesh]

Here is truth:

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/1965-war-role-of-the-rb-57f.60610/

So no damage to PAF

 

[Path-Finder]

Well we all know how PAF dominated the skies in 1965 war crushing Indian airforce but to put in prospective PAF was not doing this at advantage of any military technology. This is the proof that the main reason for PAF success has always been the man behind the machine.

PAF has always flourished in the face of most difficult odds a Cia secret report from 1965 shows that India in 1964 received the most advance surface to air missile of soviet union to keep PAF at bay but failed to contain the highly skilled pilots of PAF.

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This was considered the worst threat to any fighter jet even in the most advanced airforces like USA but PAF has always perceived its reputation and turned the odds to it advantage. September 1965 will always be remembered when technology failed at hands of PAF skill set.

Even today India has a Sam site at chandigarh Airport now loaded with advance version of SA-2 but still bearing the scars and lost dignity at hands of PAF.

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This shows the clear intentions of Indian War mongering machinery. When ever India gained any advantage in one or another sort of military technology they attempt to undermine Pakistan's security and disturb the peace and calm in South Asian region.

Soon India will receive it new surface to air missiles S400 from Russia and will start another misadventure against Pakistan but then again there is PAF which has been ruling and dominating these skies for decades.

make sense get S400 and rafale for another war!

 

[Trango Towers]

I agree with your argument that mind is real weapon. But if you apply the same, this weapon has tremendous ability of upgrading itself learning from past. Indians did make a massive miss using Spice 2000 but we must never lower our guards or not fall in this trap of overconfidence that they will not comeback hence OP's point.

Well if you do that then you are not using your mind..

 

[Rafale+Meteor+Spectra]

So no damage to PAF

PAF lost its RB-57F as the heavy damage meant it had to be returned to USA (PAF never again got to use RB-57F after Sept 15 missile hit)

 

[INDIAISM]

The greatest weapon is the mind. Use it well. You weapons are just tools. Spice 2000 in the hands of an Indian is like allowing a baby with hammer near drinking glasses. There is only one outcome and it's not good

That's what we used in
☆1971 war
☆1983 Siachin conflict
☆1999 Kargil conflict
☆After 2008 attack

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

1965 bohat peche reh gaya. We cannot keep dwelling on success of the past. Yes I know about 27 Feb if you were gonna rebut with that. We need to lokk to the future. As USAF believes the future is now. Constant improvement and development.

 

[Myth_buster_1]

That's what we used in
☆1971 war

(Took advantage of civil war between West and East Pakistan that were seperated by over 1000 miles. Great achievement.)

☆1983 Siachin conflict

Have not read much about Siachin so can not comment.

☆1999 Kargil conflict

It was Pakistan that occupied Indian territory for 3 months.
India begged US to force Pakistan to retreat while Pakistan begged US to stay out of Kargil in the end US forced pakistan to retreat.

☆After 2008 attack

What about 2008 attack?

India is supposed to be regional SUPER POWER but again and again gets b1tch slapped by smaller nation.

 

[Trango Towers]

What did you use when we ruled you for a 1000 years and carved Pakistan out of india. I bet you have nothing to say.

You also forgot GB taken from you by force
Azad Kashmir taken by force
1965 your butt handed to you...remember you wanted to come for tea.
Saichin...have you had a single nights sleep? Since you sneaked in like vermin in the dark.
Kiargil go check who controls what.

And why did you forget feb 27 2019


1971....you only joined in like cowards in a civil war and it's still an independent MUSLIM country that was taken from india in 1947...

Now speak

That's what we used in
☆1971 war
☆1983 Siachin conflict
☆1999 Kargil conflict
☆After 2008 attack

 

[Arulmozhi Varman]

What did you use when we ruled you for a 1000 years and carved Pakistan out of india. I bet you have nothing to say.

You also forgot GB taken from you by force
Azad Kashmir taken by force
1965 your butt handed to you...remember you wanted to come for tea.
Saichin...have you had a single nights sleep? Since you sneaked in like vermin in the dark.
Kiargil go check who controls what.

And why did you forget feb 27 2019


1971....you only joined in like cowards in a civil war and it's still an independent MUSLIM country that was taken from india in 1947...

Now speak

no offense. But the Arabs, Turks, Afghans and Mongols ruled over "us". And if I have to count current region of Pakistan then yes Ranjit Singh did really ruled over you folks. Infact the Arabs never ruled current India proper while ruling current Pakistan which was considered ancient Hind.

Next what are you going to be proud off? Easy simple takes pride of others.

 

[Cuirassier]

Wasn't written off. These were on loan, and officially not for India-specific activities.

PAF lost its RB-57F as the heavy damage meant it had to be returned to USA (PAF never again got to use RB-57F after Sept 15 missile hit)

 

[Areesh]

PAF lost its RB-57F as the heavy damage meant it had to be returned to USA (PAF never again got to use RB-57F after Sept 15 missile hit)

Doesn't matter

Aircraft returned to service in paf showing failure of even the most advanced SAM of IAF to score a kill