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Ok i will kill yyour children brothers and sisters ones and will said to on your face yyou failed to protect yyour love one .. Then till me who fails...
Are yyou out of mind ... 61 yound soules killed cold blooded ... And you are giving stupid remarks ...

Unless you have proof that individuals gave support to these terrorists then they are protected under the Refugee status and have until whatever 2017 month to leave Pakistan.

The only people giving stupid remarks are the ones getting emotional and giving erratic ones. The terrorists aren't the only ones who killed 61 cadets/police/soldiers. And if you can't comprehend that sentence then Pakistan hasn't learned anything.
 
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Pakistanis blaming other nation of terrorism. What a joke haha. Oh the irony..
 
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Unless you have proof that individuals gave support to these terrorists then they are protected under the Refugee status and have until whatever 2017 month to leave Pakistan.

The only people giving stupid remarks are the ones getting emotional and giving erratic ones. The terrorists aren't the only ones who killed 61 cadets/police/soldiers. And if you can't comprehend that sentence then Pakistan hasn't learned anything.

Look who is speaking ... A person having falg of a country which destroyed millions in afghanistan for world trade tower .. Destroyed iraq for non.used non.existing hypothetical WMD ... Destroying syria and giving weapons to terrorist saying them moderate terrorist ... Destroyed libya for nothing .. Arming Israel with nuclear weapons and every possible on the face of earth and claiming to be biggest peace keeper ... Trying to encircle china when China is growing by working hard ... In short you are wearing flag of a terrorist and most hypocriate on the face of the earth and giving lectures about refugee ...

I say who the hell you are to tell us what to do with people within our boundries ???

And i agree that terrorist are not only those 3 bastards as biggest terrorist is your own country ...
 
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Oh I do, this forum isn't going to like it.
If you think you are right then why afraid of sharing your thoughts ??? This forum is all about sharing your thought ...

By the way if you want to continue this debate i would like to know your country of origin and country of residence so that i can better understand your arguments ...
 
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Any terrorism in the province, Achakzai & his family are directly responsible for it. They are National Security threat to Pakistan & are funding & aiding rented terrorists.
 
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Look who is speaking ... A person having falg of a country which destroyed millions in afghanistan for world trade tower .. Destroyed iraq for non.used non.existing hypothetical WMD ... Destroying syria and giving weapons to terrorist saying them moderate terrorist ... Destroyed libya for nothing .. Arming Israel with nuclear weapons and every possible on the face of earth and claiming to be biggest peace keeper ... Trying to encircle china when China is growing by working hard ... In short you are wearing flag of a terrorist and most hypocriate on the face of the earth and giving lectures about refugee ...
I say who the hell you are to tell us what to do with people within our boundries ???
And i agree that terrorist are not only those 3 bastards as biggest terrorist is your own country ...

Ok lets begin:

The Taliban had an option to hand over OBL, they refused, even the Pakistani and Saudi Governments refused to pressure the Taliban to their fullest extent. Pakistan had the option of getting rid of not only the N. Alliance (removal of Indian/Iranian influences) but also get their pro-Pakistani government international recognition.

But Pakistan decided against it, going as far as to airlift the Taliban leadership out of Afghanistan to safe-havens in western Pakistan. I understand the necessity to have kept some sort of leadership in place, but seriously... Pakistan could have asked for not only legitimizing itself as a Nuclear Armed State but also for Kashmir and it would have gotten them both. Just because your leaders are too short-sighted look what position your in now. You can be all anti-American, but face it, once you get an American Visa or Green card, sab karo bangra.

Iraq was a bad decision, no-one can deny that. But what about your heroic Saudi buddies? In Yemen and their support for "Islamist" terrorists in Syria? You think Iraq is all America? Who provided the launch pad to go in? The inferiority stricken Kuwaitis. The oil to maintain the occupation? The list goes on man. Iraq wasn't a one country job. Even your Bosnian brothers were involved.

Saddam dangled his nuts too far out for his own good. Same as Qaddafi & Assad. Ruling for 40 years, with a son with support to take over? And people calling for you to step down? Having an ego isn't America's problem. Kindly remember the most aggressive nations demanding his removal? Qatar/UAE/Saudi/Bahrain.

How many Pakistanis were involved with putting down a peaceful Bahraini Arab Spring?

America didn't arm Israel, that's the French.

China peaceful? Come on, It could have handled the SCS alot better, it's trying to be the America of the Far East but without enough public opinion.

If you think you are right then why afraid of sharing your thoughts ??? This forum is all about sharing your thought ...
By the way if you want to continue this debate i would like to know your country of origin and country of residence so that i can better understand your arguments ...

Pakistani-American.

The problem I have is duplicity. Any side's actions can be defended but you need to realize the greater good. I've argued on both sides for Pakistan and against it, as well as egotistical Indians filled with hot air.
 
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Finally Achakzai came under military microscope for Quetta terror attack. Today Shahid Masood statement about Achakzai involvement in Quetta terrorist attack was censored.
 
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Ok lets begin:

The Taliban had an option to hand over OBL, they refused, even the Pakistani and Saudi Governments refused to pressure the Taliban to their fullest extent. Pakistan had the option of getting rid of not only the N. Alliance (removal of Indian/Iranian influences) but also get their pro-Pakistani government international recognition.

Sir lets make some corrections in general perception against reality ...

1) At the time of Afghanistan attacks there were no hard core evidence linking OBL to 9/11 .. it was based on confidential intelligence report of CIA ... So based on those intelligence report USA demanded OBL ... Taliban's response (which is well documented) was either to provide evidence or let us hand-over Osama to a third part (Pakistan or KSA) and have a complete investigation and lets have a trial ,,, if found guilty he is all yours ...

2) Taliban was an independent govt. there is no law in the world by which you can demand to extradite a person without any hard-core evidence ...

3) Taliban chooses to follow international laws whereas USA was the one who destroy a whole country of millions to seek just one man without any proof ... So tomorrow if there is a murder in your neighbour house and he asked you to handover your brother as convict without any proof ,, what will you do ??? If I will be in your place I will say take him from my dead body ... that what Taliban did ...

But Pakistan decided against it, going as far as to airlift the Taliban leadership out of Afghanistan to safe-havens in western Pakistan. I understand the necessity to have kept some sort of leadership in place, but seriously... Pakistan could have asked for not only legitimizing itself as a Nuclear Armed State but also for Kashmir and it would have gotten them both. Just because your leaders are too short-sighted look what position your in now. You can be all anti-American, but face it, once you get an American Visa or Green card, sab karo bangra.

Sir Pakistan's role is entirely different what you are claiming ,,, Pakistan not only over several taliban and Al-Qaida leaders but also torture brutally the Afghan ambassdor .... USA's personnel tear his clothes and beat him while nude in front of Pakistan's officers,, and we watch him ,,, We behave like pet of USA during all the Mushraf's erra ...

It was later we realaized that USA is playing double game with us and trying to create civil war in the region and we start creating ties with left over Taliban leadership ...


Iraq was a bad decision, no-one can deny that. But what about your heroic Saudi buddies? In Yemen and their support for "Islamist" terrorists in Syria? You think Iraq is all America? Who provided the launch pad to go in? The inferiority stricken Kuwaitis. The oil to maintain the occupation? The list goes on man. Iraq wasn't a one country job. Even your Bosnian brothers were involved.

And again let me remind you who is behind Kuwaiti ameer,, who brought Al-Saud in power and who is guarantor of Al-Saud power ,,, with all the cliams of Democracy USA had excellent relationship with monarchy of Al_saud ,,, why is that ... Al-Saud and other gulf regmies are nothing but puppets of USA ,,,USA is involved in all the wars of middle east in one way or another ... all these regimes are merely acting as pawn ,,,


Saddam dangled his nuts too far out for his own good. Same as Qaddafi & Assad. Ruling for 40 years, with a son with support to take over? And people calling for you to step down? Having an ego isn't America's problem. Kindly remember the most aggressive nations demanding his removal? Qatar/UAE/Saudi/Bahrain.

Wasn't Saddam Hussain a creation of USA and was once best friend of USA ?
Qaddafi ,,, what wrong had he done ??? He was honest and truthful ... He was best to his people ,, His people were living great lives ... Qaddafi was against petro dollar ,,, so you think that a country's leader cannot sale oil in currency of his own choice ?? isn't it USA's terrorism that they killed a country's supreme leader just for a economic decision ???
Assad ,,, what a joke ,, Assad might be criminal ,,, stupid ,, killer ,, but what other people are to which USA is providing weapons ??? are they giving flowers??? You runied a whole nations,, killed hundred of thousands just to change leader of your own choice ...

America didn't arm Israel, that's the French.
And yes USA could not have done anything about it ? Who is supplying massive aid to procure arms from French ??? And USA ,, the nuclear police man ,, why he is keeping his eyes shut on Israel nuclear capabilities? Isn't USA the leader of NATO alliance arming including France, UK, Germany and Australia,, if you can't see that then I doubt your honesty of your comments ...

China peaceful? Come on, It could have handled the SCS alot better, it's trying to be the America of the Far East but without enough public opinion.
Did China kill a single human being on SC conflict ??? USA's policing has directly resulted in killing of hundred of thousands of people in Afghanistan, Syria, Iraq, Libya, Pakistan and other such countries ,,, and you are comparing it with China ,,, who grab some unhabitated Island based on some historical cliams (could be true or false) ... Is it a right comparison ???


Pakistani-American.

The problem I have is duplicity. Any side's actions can be defended but you need to realize the greater good. I've argued on both sides for Pakistan and against it, as well as egotistical Indians filled with hot air.
Pakistan has duplicty ,,, its direct result of USA's own action ... When Pakistan get into a war with Russia on behalf od USA then who brought Pressler's amendment ??? When Russia was openly supporting India's nuclear program even was helping with technological know how,, USA not only dented Pakistan's non-nculear based arms capability but also grabbed the funds and we could not even buy traditional weapons from other sources???

Who left us with sanctions when there was mess in Afghanistan and we did not have money or resources to get things right in Afghanistan ??

Who is hypocrite when Pakistan started operation in Wazristan then Afghans post were left unattended to let the militant come to fight aginst Pakistan ??? USA intentionally left those post vacant so that it war in Afghanistan gets shifted to Pakistan ...

Who is talking to Taliban in Qatar and pushing Pakistan to fight against Taliban ... This is like we start demanding USA to fight India as they are our enemy and are firing at our soldiers at border ...

Afghan taliban's headed by Mullah Umer were never our enemy but we were forced to betray them and we did (shame on us) ...

There is a famous quote by Tipu Sultan ... Shair ki ek din ki zindagi geedar ki 100 sala zindagi sy behter ha ... So I would prefer to die for right cause rather than live under opression .... and thats what Taliban choose ...

Note: Reference to Taliban is strictly with respect to Taliban leadership of Mullah Omer ... Rest of taliban and crimnals like TTP share nothing but the name ...
 
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