Academic Junaid Hafeez sentenced to death on blasphemy charges by Multan court

[fisher1]

This is the problem with this nation, they don't bother reading books, I can confidently say that vast majority of libtards doing running commentary on blasphemy never bothered opening books of Islam ---- some Musafir is no different, had he bothered reading Islamic material, he wouldn't have named mullahs and drs above ----- He should better know that interpretation on these matters comes from classical scholars of Islam. ----- Nobody asks you to read material by contemporary scholars, go for the classical scholars, I am sure libtards will have problems with them also.

This is something i have noticed. Many libtards and qadyanis and non-Muslims can't criticise Islam directly so they attack Mullahs and obviously political personalities at that.

If every Ulema is united on this blasphemy law and you've ignorant laymen telling you otherwise, perhaps the ignorant layman is just that, an ignorant?

I've studied this issue in detail by the way
Two schools of thought, one says death is justified, the other says they can be allowed free. Both are correct but neither should condemn or stop or mock the other.

I personally think if i can be punished for denying holocaust then why not blasphemy law?

 

[bananarepublic]

1. As I have said before, Islam is an older Socialist movement. You may have read my thread from 2016 which was an article by Nadeem Paracha about Socialist activism among Muslims and in Muslim-majority societies in modern times.

2. Communism, if we consider the ideas of Marx, is from the 1800s. Islam came about in the previous millennia, so how can Islam be against Communism ??

Not exactly a socialist movement ..
Voluntary giving of personal wealth to help the less fortunate, creating institutions foe the purpose of helping people i.e edhi org.
Socialism and communism is forceful in its action, and force(jabr) is not permitted under such circumstances.
Now under capitalist systems institutions meant to serve people turn into money making scheme

 

[jamahir]

I think before that, the curfew should be lifted first. They're humans not goats. Even animals are treated better than how India is treating Kashmiris.

I agree.

Not exactly a socialist movement ..
Voluntary giving of personal wealth to help the less fortunate, creating institutions foe the purpose of helping people i.e edhi org.

What Islam desires is, is a welfare state. And the word called Socialism also desires the same.

Socialism and communism is forceful in its action, and force(jabr) is not permitted under such circumstances.
Now under capitalist systems institutions meant to serve people turn into money making scheme

Socialism can be not forceful at all. For example, in pre-2011 Libya the society was actually run by the people : Direct Democracy. And this was what part of True Communism desires : People ruling themselves ( Please read my signature ). Let me add that Gaddafi's revolution in 1969 was a bloodless revolution.

The force you refer to, is sometimes necessary because there will be some counter-revolution people who don't want to accept the new status of a country.

 

[ghauri05]

I'm saying that the Western, and now eastern world is raping us while people like you have your head in the sand and bum in the air.

We have two choices in the modern world. Modernize or start living like Aboriginals. With no control over our destiny and living on ever shrinking reserves.

But hey, we killed that one guy who said bad words. That totally stoped the rohingyas genocide!!!

How does modernization is dependent on religious disrespect? Why we need to accept blasphomy as a human right to make progress in this world?
Morons like you believe, we should simply let go of basic morals to progress in th world..if this is the case then rape murder and everything should be tolerated n no person should get punishment bcoz he may contribute in the economy in one way or other.
The problem is if someone uses bad words against your parents n family you will immediately come out to avenge but if some one is showing same behavior against Prophet(PBUH)..then people like you will simply ignore..bcoz religion has no place in you life and for you only materialistic achievements are standard of success

A rapist or murderer or thief physically harms another individual. Those committing blasphemy do nothing of the sort.

These ridiculous excuses that pro-Blasphemy law individuals being up are a clear indication of the lack of faith they have - unable to verbally defendd Islam, you people hide behind the tyranny of the disgraceful & disgusting blasphemy laws.

So if a person disrespect your family it should be allowed bcoz he has not physically harmed you..it means insulting someone in any position should be allowed..Only physical attacks should be considered a crime and everything else is legal?
And read islam for once properly,read islamic history and you will be educated enough to know that these laws existed in the time of Prophet (PBUH) and people who committed such crimes deserved the same fate. N it may help a liberal like you (who has no understandinding of islam) to understand the true meaning of faith..

 

[Uguduwa]

pakistan gettings its priorities right... more power to them. more popcorn for us.

 

[Mughal-Prince]

while the rest of the world is going to the moon and mars, developing self driving cars and plant based meats, we Pakistanis are living in the medieval age crying like babies about "but he sad bad thing"

We will never progress until we come out of such barbarity

Mind what you are writing and kindly do not take sides over this issue. It's sensitive and if something is done against the law then it should be dealt accordingly.

 

[fisher1]

How does modernization is dependent on religious disrespect? Why we need to accept blasphomy as a human right to make progress in this world?
Morons like you believe, we should simply let go of basic morals to progress in th world..if this is the case then rape murder and everything should be tolerated n no person should get punishment bcoz he may contribute in the economy in one way or other.
The problem is if someone uses bad words against your parents n family you will immediately come out to avenge but if some one is showing same behavior against Prophet(PBUH)..then people like you will simply ignore..bcoz religion has no place in you life and for you only materialistic achievements are standard of success


So if a person disrespect your family it should be allowed bcoz he has not physically harmed you..it means insulting someone in any position should be allowed..Only physical attacks should be considered a crime and everything else is legal?
And read islam for once properly,read islamic history and you will be educated enough to know that these laws existed in the time of Prophet (PBUH) and people who committed such crimes deserved the same fate. N it may help a liberal like you (who has no understandinding of islam) to understand the true meaning of faith..

Don't you know Pakistan is backwards because once in a blue moon, some blasphemer gets punished.

If only we allowed blasphemers free, Pakistan will magically become a developed country.

The most moronic argument i have ever heard same with Muslims debating religious issues another cause of backwardness.

No, the reason Pakistan is backwards is because there's nightmarish poverty, universities are shitty outdated and lack practical work.

https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/586300-15-kp-universities-facing-financial-crisis

You will not find these aristotles even talking about how crap Pakistan education system is and how it is the reason for our backwardness but are convinced the death of a blasphemer is why we're backwards.

Stupid morons

 

[Vortex]

Let's not pretend that this guy was a fvcking libtard. Libtards have a huge disconnect with Pakistan. They live in their own little elite circle and jerk off all day long about how their ideas are the best.

Seems there has been brainwashing by 3rd grade mullah.

Do you remember what happened to 2 brothers in Sialkot few years ago ? This is the sad state of people pretending to defend Islam.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

First come out of the confusion --- both Muslims and agnostics are laughing at you ---- and you can shove , both up and down, your views on blasphemy law in your filthy arse ---- No one gave a confused soul the right to do interpretation of Quran -----it's your existence which is a disgrace filthy american.

Blasphemy law is to stay here and there's not a thing the liberal agnostic creatures can do about this ---- most they can do is to make the blasphemer fly abroad, but before this to happen, he has to rot in jail for a decade.

Typical response from those who can’t defend their faith through reason and logic - attack the individual instead of addressing the argument.

You have no logical Defence for the disgusting filth parading as blasphemy and anti-Ahmadi laws so you resort to attacking me and my faith.

Keep up the personal attacks and you’re banned.

 

[Vortex]

So we should simply abandon any attempt at law enforcement and become cavemen again?

The only reason this is getting the media share is billions invested in the artificial business of minority under threat in Pakistan.

I am no one to take anyones earning away from them. These trust issues and their selective nature are not a jigsaw puzzle worthy of Olympic representation.

The judicial system in Pakistan should be changed I mean cleaning it from all corruption and incompetence first. Then proper inquiries, scientific and technical inquiries could be done.
I have doubts about all those blasphemy cases, because I don’t understand which sane people will blasphem ?

 

[El Sidd]

The judicial system in Pakistan should be changed I mean cleaning it from all corruption and incompetence first. Then proper inquiries, scientific and technical inquiries could be done.
I have doubts about all those blasphemy cases, because I don’t understand which sane people will blasphem ?

Only Talibans and Secular extremists have doubts on courts of the islamic republic of Pakistan.

We cannot wait for a utopian idealist world before enforcing laws in the country.

You cannot recall one instance where Blasphmey convicts were given constitutional penalties.

Zahid Hamid the lawmaker who changed the finality of prophethood laws still is not put under microscope of the law.

All this outrage becomes null n void because of the sheer selective attitude of the people on these issues of misgovernance

 

[Vortex]

So let's close down the judiciary and every crime be between the criminal and ALLAH?

you are telling me that every single student who accused him is a liar and Mr. Junaid is the only truthful, how you know this? ( no could be would be)

You should ask this to them, why they do blasphemy --- I think the system which grooms them, tells them that this ain't blasphemy --These brainwashed zombies are sent back to create unrest in the society.

Once the matter will come to higher courts, he fly abroad too, so just relax.

See reply at post 145 Academic Junaid Hafeez sentenced to death on blasphemy charges by Multan court

Hacking Facebook is not hard for whoever has the technical expertise.

For example when I send an email using my company’s email, a warning is automatically added at the end that the company cannot give guarantees about the message authenticity as it could be tampered by unauthorised persons.

Sometimes you write the message quickly and you forgot typing one word which change completely the meaning of the sentence and become the opposite of what you wanted to say.

Now go to ask to Facebook a technical check about any hacking which could have tampered the messages. I doubt they will reply because it’s part of hybrid war Pakistan is facing.

 

[El Sidd]

See reply at post 145 Academic Junaid Hafeez sentenced to death on blasphemy charges by Multan court

Hacking Facebook is not hard for whoever has the technical expertise.

For example when I send an email using my company’s email, a warning is automatically added at the end that the company cannot give guarantees about the message authenticity as it could be tampered by unauthorised persons.

Sometimes you write the message quickly and you forgot typing one word which change completely the meaning of the sentence and become the opposite of what you wanted to say.

Now go to ask to Facebook a technical check about any hacking which could have tampered the messages. I doubt they will reply because it’s part of hybrid war Pakistan is facing.

Pakistan has robust cyber crime laws where digital history is tracked and logged.

The whole country is not thirsty for this mans blood. If he did not do anything, he will be free. If not, its dama dam mast kalendar

 

[Vortex]

Would you want mercy and love for someone who rapes your mother or your daughter? I think not.

Learn this.

A Muslim loves Prophet Muhammad (saww) more than his mother, his father, his kids, his family, his own self. This is a requirement to be a Muslim. You can't be a Muslim if you don't believe this.

It was narrated that Anas said: The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “No one of you truly believes until I am dearer to him than his father, his son, his own self and all the people.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 15; Muslim, 44.

If someone spoke ill of my mother, i go red and want to bash his face in. Someone spoke ill of a person who i love more than my mother, what do you think i want mercy and love for him?

Had he said kill anyone who don’t love me ?

May Allah give all our mothers, sisters, protection from such criminals.

At least there are technical analysis who give the proper evidence of who is the culprit(s): DNA test.

Pakistan has robust cyber crime laws where digital history is tracked and logged.

The whole country is not thirsty for this mans blood. If he did not do anything, he will be free. If not, its dama dam mast kalendar

Lol.

Pakistan is capable to store all digital messages, pics, videos of all Pakistanis even if https protocole is used.

Yes bigger LOL.

 

[El Sidd]

Lol.

Pakistan is capable to store all digital messages, pics, videos of all Pakistanis even if https protocole is used.

You ignore how Pakistani hackers are considered top of the world and Pakistans efforts in WoT couldn't have been such success if Data was not being monitored.

As i said you are suffering from selective brainwashing. There is little material to your outrage