AC 130 spooky application for counter insurgency and Terrorism operations for Pak army

[Super Falcon]

We all know Pak used attack helicopter for terrorists operations and we are struggling there and with halos they have limitations in weapons and they are more risky against short range shoulder fired surface missiles terrorists voperate

Why Pak army don't opt few AC 130 Spooky type convertions on our existing C 130 Hercules as spooky gunships for busting terrorists in their mountains hideouts

AC 130 will be cost effective and reliable busting those terrorists from 40000 feet's with pin point accuracy with light to heavy weapons of choice in one platform and can use them continuously for longer periods of time in one go

I feel it's good idea to use them for counterinsurgency and terrorists operations near afghan border for precise attacks

I think they will be more effective even at night when terrorists think they are safe to move from their hideouts

These will give a boost to our army and lower the price of 5 attack halos doing same thing infact these spookiest hit the terrorists hard with best weapons cost effective rather than hitting with costly rockets and missiles

Spookiest specially designed for such missions to caught terrorists un aware

 

[khansaheeb]

We need more drones with Hi-tech sensors with IR ,UV, LIDR and Radar fully armed with cluster, bunker busters and napalm to sort those MF out.

 

[lcloo]

Although the AC-130U conducts some operations in daylight, most of its combat missions are conducted at night. The AC-130H's unit cost is US$132.4 million, and the AC-130U's cost is $190 million (fiscal 2001 dollars).

2022 price = US$???.

 

[Super Falcon]

We need more drones with Hi-tech sensors with IR ,UV, LIDR and Radar fully armed with cluster, bunker busters and napalm to sort those MF out.

Don't you think these spookiest carry more payload compare to drones and with single flight they bring havoc to terrorists hiding in Afghanistan border regions yes with drone support they can hit targets more precisely as they carry 105mm artillery gun and other Gatling guns

Although the AC-130U conducts some operations in daylight, most of its combat missions are conducted at night. The AC-130H's unit cost is US$132.4 million, and the AC-130U's cost is $190 million (fiscal 2001 dollars).

2022 price = US$???.

We just need atleast two or three will be enough

Although the AC-130U conducts some operations in daylight, most of its combat missions are conducted at night. The AC-130H's unit cost is US$132.4 million, and the AC-130U's cost is $190 million (fiscal 2001 dollars).

2022 price = US$???.

Including the price of aircraft but if we get these in our existing C 130 price will be some where to 42 millions busting terrorists who destroy our infastrycture of billions this is least price we have to pay for spookiest to get rid of these

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

1 - We need to fix the Government
2- Improve Human Rights Application in Pakistan
3- Fix courts and Police


WOT is finished


We don't need C130 over mountains when our corruption is in Islamabad sitting in Police centers

The disturbance at Border is a Border police / force duty we understand their sacrifices at border, but it is due to lack of proper planning at top tier

The younger Pakistani Soldiers at Border need better support everyone agrees to that

 

[One_Nation]

1 - We need to fix the Government
2- Improve Human Rights Application in Pakistan
3- Fix courts and Police


WOT is finished


We don't need C130 over mountains when our corruption is in Islamabad sitting in Police centers

The disturbance at Border is a Border police / force duty we understand their sacrifices at border, but it is due to lack of proper planning at top tier

The younger Pakistani Soldiers at Border need better support everyone agrees to that

A corrupt stooge state fighting any group is at grave risk of ideologically losing to that group.

 

[Sayfullah]

We all know Pak used attack helicopter for terrorists operations and we are struggling there and with halos they have limitations in weapons and they are more risky against short range shoulder fired surface missiles terrorists voperate

Why Pak army don't opt few AC 130 Spooky type convertions on our existing C 130 Hercules as spooky gunships for busting terrorists in their mountains hideouts

AC 130 will be cost effective and reliable busting those terrorists from 40000 feet's with pin point accuracy with light to heavy weapons of choice in one platform and can use them continuously for longer periods of time in one go

I feel it's good idea to use them for counterinsurgency and terrorists operations near afghan border for precise attacks

I think they will be more effective even at night when terrorists think they are safe to move from their hideouts

These will give a boost to our army and lower the price of 5 attack halos doing same thing infact these spookiest hit the terrorists hard with best weapons cost effective rather than hitting with costly rockets and missiles

Spookiest specially designed for such missions to caught terrorists un aware

This is good when you’re fighting an insurgency outside your country.
Were you gonna use this in Pakistan? In waziristan or Balochistan? This monster levels whole areas. For using drones and fighter jets we get so much backlash imagine these.
These are too destructive and impractical for our needs . What you gonna do chase down fleeing bla insurgents with this? A cheap attack helicopter would do much better.
Americans didn’t give a shit about their image in Afghanistan so they didn’t care to level whole villages with this. We can’t simply withdraw like usa did. We are fighting a coin war inside our territory so we need to be smart and wise to win.

 

[Shabi1]

We all know Pak used attack helicopter for terrorists operations and we are struggling there and with halos they have limitations in weapons and they are more risky against short range shoulder fired surface missiles terrorists voperate

Why Pak army don't opt few AC 130 Spooky type convertions on our existing C 130 Hercules as spooky gunships for busting terrorists in their mountains hideouts

AC 130 will be cost effective and reliable busting those terrorists from 40000 feet's with pin point accuracy with light to heavy weapons of choice in one platform and can use them continuously for longer periods of time in one go

I feel it's good idea to use them for counterinsurgency and terrorists operations near afghan border for precise attacks

I think they will be more effective even at night when terrorists think they are safe to move from their hideouts

These will give a boost to our army and lower the price of 5 attack halos doing same thing infact these spookiest hit the terrorists hard with best weapons cost effective rather than hitting with costly rockets and missiles

Spookiest specially designed for such missions to caught terrorists un aware

C-130 Gunship is a not for export project by US.

We can meet our requirement with UAVs but gunships would have come handy in operations like that were done in Swat as well as patrolling Pak Afghan border in case of heightened hostility. C-295 Gunships as acquired by Jordan are very feasible for Pakistan ais it operates the type and its a budget variant.

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[Super Falcon]

This is good when you’re fighting an insurgency outside your country.
Were you gonna use this in Pakistan? In waziristan or Balochistan? This monster levels whole areas. For using drones and fighter jets we get so much backlash imagine these.
These are too destructive and impractical for our needs . What you gonna do chase down fleeing bla insurgents with this? A cheap attack helicopter would do much better.
Americans didn’t give a shit about their image in Afghanistan so they didn’t care to level whole villages with this. We can’t simply withdraw like usa did. We are fighting a coin war inside our territory so we need to be smart and wise to win.

Sir why don't you understand cheap helicopter and attack Helis will be at risk been destroyed by shoulder fired stinger missiles at low level flying in mountains

 

[Sayfullah]

Sir why don't you understand cheap helicopter and attack Helis will be at risk been destroyed by shoulder fired stinger missiles at low level flying in mountains

Yes cuz ttp and bla have stingers and we don’t have any uav’s or fighter jets?

 

[Bilal9]

Although the AC-130U conducts some operations in daylight, most of its combat missions are conducted at night. The AC-130H's unit cost is US$132.4 million, and the AC-130U's cost is $190 million (fiscal 2001 dollars).

2022 price = US$???.

I think you can do COIN stuff with lot smaller platforms, like the Brazilian super Tucano which costs around $18 Million a pop. US Army gave it to the Afghans and apparently the platform has been useful. These can be equipped with flares to fool stingers.

How the Tucano became the A-29 Super Tucano | Fox News Video

Inside the A-29 Super Tucano

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Each wing can be loaded with 200 rounds for the FN Herstal M3P 12.7 mm (.50 in) machine gun, which has a firing rate of up to 1,100 rounds per minute.

Or you can bring out medium firepower and use the Mi-171SH assault gunships. I don't know how much these cost. Mi-35 Hinds may be overkill for COIN Ops but may be necessary for TTP and BLA.

 

[Signalian]

WOT is finished

It isn't globally. Where as locally it will continue till years to come.

We all know Pak used attack helicopter for terrorists operations and we are struggling there and with halos they have limitations in weapons and they are more risky against short range shoulder fired surface missiles terrorists voperate

Why Pak army don't opt few AC 130 Spooky type convertions on our existing C 130 Hercules as spooky gunships for busting terrorists in their mountains hideouts

AC 130 will be cost effective and reliable busting those terrorists from 40000 feet's with pin point accuracy with light to heavy weapons of choice in one platform and can use them continuously for longer periods of time in one go

I feel it's good idea to use them for counterinsurgency and terrorists operations near afghan border for precise attacks

I think they will be more effective even at night when terrorists think they are safe to move from their hideouts

These will give a boost to our army and lower the price of 5 attack halos doing same thing infact these spookiest hit the terrorists hard with best weapons cost effective rather than hitting with costly rockets and missiles

Spookiest specially designed for such missions to caught terrorists un aware

Drones are cheaper and can carry ammunition for precise attacks.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

It is not important , Army should focus on next election that fair elections are possible

When economy improves buy stuff for Border Police

 

[Super Falcon]

Yes cuz ttp and bla have stingers and we don’t have any uav’s or fighter jets?

Who said we don't have UAV shahper CH 9 From china TB 2 akinci what else you need

C 295 gunship will do good but any halo and smaller aircrafts have draw back of limited payload when you had very limited time to hit the terrorists who will hide

 

[Sayfullah]

Who said we don't have UAV shahper CH 9 From china TB 2 akinci what else you need

It was a rhetorical question

C 295 gunship will do good but any halo and smaller aircrafts have draw back of limited payload when you had very limited time to hit the terrorists who will hide

Why do we need that much payload for our coin wars? Terrorists in Pakistan do not occupy areas. Their more sleeper cells or the ones openly in areas are cuz they were allowed back in. You gonna use a C295 in waziristan to level a whole village because of some ttp? C295 will ensure many generations of ttp come after. C295 wouldn’t even be that successful in Afghanistan for us because it will go against our objective. Precise attacks are better then levelling a who area ESPECIALLY WHEN YOUR FIGHTING IN YOUR OWN TERRITORY AGAINST YOUR OWN PEOPLE. Even with bla, go take a C295 gunship and use it in a city against bla you’ll see the whole city will become bla. I’m pretty sure one of the reasons why we aren’t using fighter jets and drones more especially in Balochistan is because of the backlash it will cause. Yes you will kill your enemy but at what cost? At producing a whole new generation of terrorists?
Usa lost the war in Afghanistan in major part due to its recklessness and that making even the anti Taliban people into Talib’s.
A coin war is so much more than just the amount of firepower you can bring to the table. A coin war especially one fought in your own territory by your own people is mostly ideological. We have to eliminate ttp and bla ideology or else the insurgencies will never end. You simply just can’t kill them all. There’s always gonna be a few that survive. Coin war is about destroying their ideology. Army in coin wars have only a small share of the work. They’re only suppose to maintain order if things get too out of hand. Rest of the job is government to counter insurgents ideology and back it up with development to counter poverty with goes hand in hand with insurgency.
We’ve done many operations against terrorists and recently did major operation Zarb e Azb. What did we get? Only temporary benefits. The terrorists came back with a stronger and more refined ideological to spread. Our lack of developing the war torn areas and not coming up with a counter ideology has led the situation in many places go back to pre Zarb e Azb levels. We can do an Zarb e Azb every year but that won’t achieve any permanent gain rather it will further alienate people living in waziristan etc and make them rebel against the state.

precise

This is what we need. Not levelling whole areas. People seem to forget we are fighting this war inside Pakistani territory against mostly our own people. There’s a lot more factors we have to consider. If firepower alone achieved results we would have not needed that many army ops and zarb e Azb would have been the end for all insurgents in Pakistan.