Abe to ignore call from Obama not to visit Russia

[dichoi]

welcome back @Viva_Viet .

 

[Tiqiu]

Abe snubs Obama over Russia visit | The Japan Times




this is big news, big and positive, albeit.

@TaiShang @Arryn @Pangu

This is one small beginning step at right direction for Japan, a better relationship between Japan-Russia can only mean good to the NEA region and the goal of multi-polar world that many countries are envisaging for.

At current landscape, I don't think China is worried, or can do much about Japan becoming militarized or normalized. The no.1 concern for China in relation to Japan is since China doesn't want to be drawn into a direct war with Japan and leave the US intact, thus a contained Japan under the ww2 order is for the best interest of China. But I think China needs to do some type of adjustments to its Japan policy in light of the dynamics going on, that is upon realizing some legitimacy behind Japan's push for a bigger international role and voice, China needs to work on convincing Japan that China is not apposed to a stronger Japan, but the stronger Japan as the proxy of the US war against China. From Japan's side, it should work on convincing China that Japan is also interested in a multi-polar world order, not in being the canon fodder or vanguard of the US should a Sino-US war breakout. If this agreement is achieved, China should welcome a stronger Japan as it can be one anchor to the multi-polar world order.

To work to this end, both counties can seek cooperation in the economic sphere at first,such as overseas infrastructure development, or energy joint project in Iran. Like forming a company, shareholders don't need to be same in values or believes, or in some cases they don't need to be liking each others, but along the course of the pursuit of the common goal which brought them together, they will and must learn to live with each other for the greatest good.

Perhaps that explains why the last country the US wants to see joining AIIB is Japan.

Also in light of this development, these two peace of news just emerged in the US showed a certain degree of anxiety of the Americans towards Japan's future choice.
America’s Next Move in Asia: A Japan-South Korea Alliance | The National Interest
Top Admiral Asks US Allies to Help Buzz China’s Fake Islands - Defense One

 

[Abacin]

Even if Abe visits Russia, the chance of Japan-Russia peace treaty is slim because Japan overestimates itself. Through such a treaty, Russia will gain a lot of money plus some strategic benefits when Russia faces China and Unite States; but for Japan, Japan will gain huge strategic benefits. Currently Japan is behaving like a US dog. But if this treaty is signed, Japan's bargaining power with China and USA will increase dramatically. Japan will gain the freedom on its policies, similar to German.

But this is a tough obstacle: the Northern islands. This treaty will benefit much more for Japan than Russia. But Japan still wants part of those islands. Japan has limited lands, so no Japanese government is allowed by its people to lose all of those islands. And losing all islands are simply not accepted by proud Japanese. But in reality, Russia cannot tolerate such unfair exchange of interests.

Russian clearly knows that this treaty worths $1 trillion. But Japan only wants to pay $10 billion and asks for a precious gift (islands). This deal simply cannot work out.

Japan missed the great opportunity when soviet collapsed. Russian didn't know how to live without Soviet Union and went panic. Japan's short sight cost Japan such an opportunity. At that time, Russia was willing to give back two islands. But Japan thought that Russia and China both could collapse and wanted more. Now Japan almost has no chance get back a single one.

 

[Viva_Viet]

Even if Abe visits Russia, the chance of Japan-Russia peace treaty is slim because Japan overestimates itself. Through such a treaty, Russia will gain a lot of money plus some strategic benefits when Russia faces China and Unite States; but for Japan, Japan will gain huge strategic benefits. Currently Japan is behaving like a US dog. But if this treaty is signed, Japan's bargaining power with China and USA will increase dramatically. Japan will gain the freedom on its policies, similar to German.

US never bargain wt its vassal state. CIA will do its job if vassal states dont listen. Thats why former South VN president Ngo Dinh Diem was killed when denying US troops to enter South VN.

 

[Aepsilons]

Even if Abe visits Russia, the chance of Japan-Russia peace treaty is slim because Japan overestimates itself. Through such a treaty, Russia will gain a lot of money plus some strategic benefits when Russia faces China and Unite States; but for Japan, Japan will gain huge strategic benefits. Currently Japan is behaving like a US dog. But if this treaty is signed, Japan's bargaining power with China and USA will increase dramatically. Japan will gain the freedom on its policies, similar to German.

But this is a tough obstacle: the Northern islands. This treaty will benefit much more for Japan than Russia. But Japan still wants part of those islands. Japan has limited lands, so no Japanese government is allowed by its people to lose all of those islands. And losing all islands are simply not accepted by proud Japanese. But in reality, Russia cannot tolerate such unfair exchange of interests.

Russian clearly knows that this treaty worths $1 trillion. But Japan only wants to pay $10 billion and asks for a precious gift (islands). This deal simply cannot work out.

There are heavy political developments in Japan, particularly in the opposition parties, that is in turn forcing to turn Abe's hand. Else he will fail in his promise in his mandate as Prime Minister. This will further cause division in the LDP-held alliance unity , and will be utilized by the DPJ and JIP in the thrust for next election.

DPJ, Japan Innovation Party to merge ahead of Upper House election - AJW by The Asahi Shimbun

This will pave the way for Hatoyama's return.

Japan's short sight cost Japan such an opportunity. At that time, Russia was willing to give back two islands. But Japan thought that Russia and China both could collapse and wanted more. Now Japan almost has no chance get back a single one.

Absolutely. In the past there was heavy dependence on appraisal on the US system, however, ever since the landmark victory of Hatoyama in 2010, and the eventual changes in constitutional interpretation , has led to a paradigm shift in regards to Japanese political theoretics and systems. The reliance on US systems has decreased, and a reawaekning for the suspension of current constitution and the creation of a new constitution. Effectively, the reinvention of Japanese Government.

 

[Pangu]

There are heavy political developments in Japan, particularly in the opposition parties, that is in turn forcing to turn Abe's hand. Else he will fail in his promise in his mandate as Prime Minister. This will further cause division in the LDP-held alliance unity , and will be utilized by the DPJ and JIP in the thrust for next election.

DPJ, Japan Innovation Party to merge ahead of Upper House election - AJW by The Asahi Shimbun

This will pave the way for Hatoyama's return.



Absolutely. In the past there was heavy dependence on appraisal on the US system, however, ever since the landmark victory of Hatoyama in 2010, and the eventual changes in constitutional interpretation , has led to a paradigm shift in regards to Japanese political theoretics and systems. The reliance on US systems has decreased, and a reawaekning for the suspension of current constitution and the creation of a new constitution. Effectively, the reinvention of Japanese Government.

Bro, are you sure Yukio Hatoyama has a chance of returning to power? I mean he's been expelled from DPJ...

 

[bbccdd1470]

Abe snubs Obama over Russia visit | The Japan Times




this is big news, big and positive, albeit.

@TaiShang @Arryn @Pangu

I think this is just a beginning, more should be coming. The American should change their mindset on sacrifice other's interest for their own gain. People should know that " the more you push, the more its resist", like the last President Ma visited on Taiping island and now PM Abe ignores Obama's demand. However, Japan should be caution because USA is very good at regime change.

 

[Aepsilons]

Bro, are you sure Yukio Hatoyama has a chance of returning to power? I mean he's been expelled from DPJ...

He is active in DPJ forums, still. And his support is very high. There are calls for him to return to public office.

 

[bbccdd1470]

In last year's G7 summit Abe vowed to continue talks vis-à-vis with Putin. Even though this is merely an unofficial visit I think it is a good start, as Abe kept his word.

This is good to see that PM of Japan is getting bolder to look after his interest than being a yes-man.

 

[Aepsilons]

Bro, are you sure Yukio Hatoyama has a chance of returning to power? I mean he's been expelled from DPJ...

You need to also know the power relations in DPJ , bro. Back in 2009 when Hatoyama ran for PM, he had challenged Okada Katsuya, now current head of DPJ, and won. Hatoyama selected Okada to be the Foreign Minister, and under his tenure , Okada was chief architect in the negotiation of the suspension of US military base(S) in Okinawa, continuing a policy that was centrifugal to Hatoyama. Tho Okada was supposed to be the successor of Hatoyama, his deciding to forfeit election run was due in part to the needs -- and that was environment was not yet ripe. There is a strong relationshp between Hatoyama and Okada; Hatoyama is the brain, and Okada is the architect and operational dispenser.

I believe Okada will , if DPJ does join with JIP, endorse the return of Hatoyama. If that happens, Abe will be forced to concede to opposition requisitions. Else LDP majority alliance will break.

 

[bbccdd1470]

Japan has very right to be friend with anyone it wants, this is another example of how US constantly try to impose it will on Japan, my thumb up for Abe to give the middle finger to US.

I'm waiting for PM Abe to sign a FTA with China and Korea to counter their political-based TPP.

 

[Aepsilons]

There is a special relationship between Hatoyama and Okada, even now.

 

[bbccdd1470]

Well, 11 months to go & you get to change the C-in-C. I wondered if Trump ever gets voted into the White House, will he give it a make-over, more bling bling to commensurate with his billion dollar lifestyle.

I read a lot of bad thing about Hilary Clinton, I think East Asia will be doom if she get elected. My ideal pick is first Bernie Sander, then Trump but I have no idea how East Asia's geopolitics will be if he get elected.

 

[Pangu]

You need to also know the power relations in DPJ , bro. Back in 2009 when Hatoyama ran for PM, he had challenged Okada Katsuya, now current head of DPJ, and won. Hatoyama selected Okada to be the Foreign Minister, and under his tenure , Okada was chief architect in the negotiation of the suspension of US military base(S) in Okinawa, continuing a policy that was centrifugal to Hatoyama. Tho Okada was supposed to be the successor of Hatoyama, his deciding to forfeit election run was due in part to the needs -- and that was environment was not yet ripe. There is a strong relationshp between Hatoyama and Okada; Hatoyama is the brain, and Okada is the architect and operational dispenser.

I believe Okada will , if DPJ does join with JIP, endorse the return of Hatoyama. If that happens, Abe will be forced to concede to opposition requisitions. Else LDP majority alliance will break.

Thanks for the insight!

 

[Aepsilons]

I read a lot of bad thing about Hilary Clinton, I think East Asia will be doom if she get elected. My ideal pick is first Bernie Sander, then Trump but I have no idea how East Asia's geopolitics will be if he get elected.

I think Trump need not necessarily be a bad pick. The man is a businessman. He is able to think beyond politics, and that he is considerant of cooperation with Russia, means, a window of opportunity.

I like Sanders' ideology. His democratic socialism is applaudable ! But i doubt he can defeat Clinton, the establishment's chosen fighting rooster (er, hen). lol.

Thanks for the insight!

Anytime, bro!