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3rd class piece of writing .......

This Ayaz Amir would be nonexistent today had it not been for the nukes and missiles, but let him rant. That is all these "pseudo intellectuals" can do. Rant all day long when we get things done.

LOL at requiring a single nuke and missile against India. If only things were that simple... These foolish simpletons have no clue what world they are living in. There is no economy, health and education without security. Ask the Syrians and others who have witnessed it first hand.
 
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Next is icbm we shud b ready on short notice
 
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Army knows better what to make and how far to push the battle tech as per minimum detterence required.
 
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We should develop ICBM and once for all and only test it if India does the same. Imagine US will not have the guts to send their drones again to our lands, slaughtering our innocent or not so innocent people knowing well we can hit them back and have got the capability too. They are only doing it knowing well our air force is too week and we don't have got any means to reach their lands and our pathetic leadership who have got no spine. Why they never send their drones to Iran cos they know it very well they will get something back even on a small scale but they will. They only attacked Libya as they knew, Libya have cancelled the air defence deal with Russia so they will have a free ride over Libyan skies according to Gadaffi son. We need to make clear to the West biased policies against us will not continue for ever. Last time they put sanctions on us it did hurt us but we came out more stronger JF-17 and our missile and nuclear assets are testament to that. Now we are living in a different era sanctioning us will not be a one way traffic, this time we can make life hell for them in Afghanistan and difficult for them in middle east. Alas our leaders stand up for our country interests and see how attitude changes. We want peace and want to live in peace but it will be only achieved when big fish knows we are not an easy meal and we will give them a permanent haemorrhage centuries to come.
Pakistan comes first for us and we are not guardians of Western interests while they keep ignoring our security concerns. Let them fight their own wars and we should fight for our own development peacefully. :pakistan:
 
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We should develop ICBM and once for all and only test it if India does the same. Imagine US will not have the guts to send their drones again to our lands, slaughtering our innocent or not so innocent people knowing well we can hit them back and have got the capability too. They are only doing it knowing well our air force is too week and we don't have got any means to reach their lands and our pathetic leadership who have got no spine. Why they never send their drones to Iran cos they know it very well they will get something back even on a small scale but they will. They only attacked Libya as they knew, Libya have cancelled the air defence deal with Russia so they will have a free ride over Libyan skies according to Gadaffi son. We need to make clear to the West biased policies against us will not continue for ever. Last time they put sanctions on us it did hurt us but we came out more stronger JF-17 and our missile and nuclear assets are testament to that. Now we are living in a different era sanctioning us will not be a one way traffic, this time we can make life hell for them in Afghanistan and difficult for them in middle east. Alas our leaders stand up for our country interests and see how attitude changes. We want peace and want to live in peace but it will be only achieved when big fish knows we are not an easy meal and we will give them a permanent haemorrhage centuries to come.
Pakistan comes first for us and we are not guardians of Western interests while they keep ignoring our security concerns. Let them fight their own wars and we should fight for our own development peacefully. :pakistan:
News for you:

https://theaviationist.com/2017/07/...-united-states-to-find-out-could-we-stop-one/
https://missilethreat.csis.org/system/gmd/
http://www.janes.com/article/72256/...more-interceptors-for-homeland-missile-shield
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-missiles-usa-defenses-idUSKBN19W15R

Why do you think US invaded Afghanistan and conducted so many drone strikes within Pakistan? To kill terrorists and punish their supporters in the region.

It is in the interests of Pakistan to cooperate with US in the matters pertaining to anti-terrorism efforts since both states are victims of this menace - Pakistan much more-so in comparison. Anybody who thinks otherwise needs to see the mirror and/or is 'out of touch' with the "ground realities."

US and Pakistan can have some disagreements in regards to matters in Afghanistan but Pakistani objective is not to confront US in Afghanistan - this is "yellow journalism" nonsense. These disagreements can be addressed through diplomatic efforts.

There is no "US versus Pakistan" scenario and neither we can afford to threaten and/or intimidate US head-on - we have our hands full with India already.

Those who desire a confrontation between US and Pakistan are THE ENEMY - these armchair morons do not understand the consequences of this wishful thinking. Fortunately, Pakistani military establishment is smarter and understands what is good for Pakistan in the long-term.

Imagine US transforming India into a potent anti-ABM platform to nullify Pakistani missile arsenal and checkmate Pakistani economic growth through (real) economic sanctions and blockade of CPEC - this is a nightmare that we cannot afford or wish to bring upon ourselves due to strategic and political miscalculations.

India is the greatest threat to Pakistan. India 'wants' Pakistan to do something stupid in Afghanistan [or otherwise] so that it becomes much easier for India to push for isolation of Pakistan and win favors from other states in this regard through its diplomatic channels. Pakistan should avoid Indian bait at all costs and defeat its designs through levelheaded calculations. Capture of Kulbhushan yadav is a promising development and an indication that we are doing the right thing.
 
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News for you:

https://theaviationist.com/2017/07/...-united-states-to-find-out-could-we-stop-one/
https://missilethreat.csis.org/system/gmd/
http://www.janes.com/article/72256/...more-interceptors-for-homeland-missile-shield
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-missiles-usa-defenses-idUSKBN19W15R

Why do you think US invaded Afghanistan and conducted so many drone strikes within Pakistan? To kill terrorists and punish their supporters in the region.

It is in the interests of Pakistan to cooperate with US in the matters pertaining to anti-terrorism efforts since both states are victims of this menace - Pakistan much more-so in comparison. Anybody who thinks otherwise needs to see the mirror and/or is 'out of touch' with the "ground realities."

US and Pakistan can have some disagreements in regards to matters in Afghanistan but Pakistani objective is not to confront US in Afghanistan - this is "yellow journalism" nonsense. These disagreements can be addressed through diplomatic efforts.

There is no "US versus Pakistan" scenario and neither we can afford to threaten and/or intimidate US head-on - we have our hands full with India already.

Those who desire a confrontation between US and Pakistan are THE ENEMY - these armchair morons do not understand the consequences of this wishful thinking. Fortunately, Pakistani military establishment is smarter and understands what is good for Pakistan in the long-term.

Imagine US transforming India into a potent anti-ABM platform to nullify Pakistani missile arsenal and checkmate Pakistani economic growth through (real) economic sanctions and blockade of CPEC - this is a nightmare that we cannot afford or wish to bring upon ourselves due to strategic and political miscalculations.

India is the greatest threat to Pakistan. India 'wants' Pakistan to do something stupid in Afghanistan [or otherwise] so that it becomes much easier for India to push for isolation of Pakistan and win favors from other states in this regard through its diplomatic channels. Pakistan should avoid Indian bait at all costs and defeat its designs through levelheaded calculations. Capture of Kulbhushan yadav is a promising development and an indication that we are doing the right thing.

A nuclear submarine with SLBM on board is very important for Pakistan,,, Pak needs strong 2nd strike capability...
 
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Mr Ayaz Amir seems U deliberately totally forgot to even hint at the fact that whatever we have done, was totally reactive and keeping the best possible solution to an emerging threat while keeping monetary constraints in mind and that what I call "A Smart Solution". People like U would just keep mum when enemy acquires any capability which is a sever threat to our existence but wud always make hue and cry when we come up with a smart counter solution of it. Let me ask U a few questions.

1: Did we start nuclear race in the region and should we have kept mum when enemy showed its intentions in 1974?
2: Did we start the cold start doctrine which took enemy almost 11 years and billions of dollars worth money to finally claim its ready? Instead we came up with just a test of Nasr and it sent shockwaves around the policy makers of adversary.
3: Did we first go for ICBM? Rather have we even gone there yet? We havent as it didnt serve any purpose as pr existing foreign policy.
4: Did we first announce that after ICBM next target in MIRV?
5: Did we first fire a submarine launched missile?

And the story goes on that proves that neither we are engaging in an arms race nor we have any adverse designs for anyone but whatever we do are best suited for national deterrence and safeguards against any eventuality.

Now coming to you pathetic question as whats next... The next in line is something that ll IN SHA ALLAH blow the brain out of your mind and likes of yours (if there is anything called brain in your skull) and U ll keep on moaning and weeping like this.
Now Shoo and go cry to your Mama.
You nicely sum up .. We reacted,a due course our neighbor adopted.
 
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A nuclear submarine with SLBM on board is very important for Pakistan,,, Pak needs strong 2nd strike capability...
Its a long term goal Mr at least after 2025 we will achieve that kind of target Mr
 
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this article is a piece of crap.with right strategy, we can repel any hostile forces.as far as kashmir is concerned,fight will continue.author is telling us to stop missile program.the author don't even know how indian army works.indian army is still the army of tanks artillery,see the cold start doctrine.they are living in 60s.only solution of advancing indian army is to annihilate them completely without using soldiers.pakistan is in total command and it will continue to be more aggressive.there is nothing to worry about.our army is not living in 60s like indian army.
 
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Ababeel…and what next?
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By Ayaz Amir
January 27, 2017
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Islamabad diary

Pakistan has tested a missile with a range of 2200 kilometres and capable of carrying multiple nuclear warheads, and the usual patriots – no shortage of this clan here, which elsewhere would be called hawks – are agog with excitement.

We are a nuclear power and have been for some time. Yet the strange thing is that instead of steadying the national ship and giving us some confidence, our super-hawks despite this capability get rattled every time there is a sneeze or cough from India. An Indian defence minister, army chief or super-hawk – there being plenty of this kind over there too – has only to let out some inanity about a cold-start doctrine or teaching Pakistan a lesson, and retired generals and self-appointed analysts here can be counted upon to mount the ramparts, beat their drum and raise the alarm.

What is with us? Israel has a nuclear arsenal but it keeps its mouth shut about it. The world knows it has nuclear weapons and for Israel that is enough. But we must keep talking about our nuclear prowess, in season and out. Israel never says its defence is invulnerable. It lets the facts speak for themselves. Hezbollah, Israel’s only credible rival in the Middle East, also never boasts about its toughness and resilience, qualities it has in ample measure. For it too actions speak louder than words.

This logic applies not to us. We must keep talking about our military and nuclear strength, and we must do so endlessly, perhaps not so much to frighten our enemies as to reassure ourselves. A nation more sure of itself would not lay so much store by verbal protestations.

But Ababeel, the multiple-warhead missile, is about testing not boasting. And the question this latest test raises is: how much of a nuclear deterrent does Pakistan require? In a rational world one nuclear bomb, with the attendant deliver capacity, would be enough. The other side can have a hundred bombs to match that one bomb, but that one bomb capable of wiping out Delhi or Mumbai (since we are talking of India) will be a sufficient deterrent.

We, however, have a veritable arsenal – bombs, missile delivery systems, cruise missile capability, and now even tactical nuclear weapons ostensibly for battlefield use. Anyone would say we were spoiled for choice. Yet instead of being satisfied with this varied capability Pakistan continues to dip into its scarce resources to engage in a never-ending arms race with India.

India doesn’t have to attack us. It need only keep us engaged in this folly and its ends – of keeping Pakistan tied down in an endless quest for security – will be achieved.

But the military are their own strategic masters, formulating their deterrence doctrines without a nod or suggestion from any other quarter. Zulfikar Ali Bhutto started Pakistan down the nuclear track. That credit cannot be taken away from him. But since his time nuclear doctrine has been the close preserve of the army command. What the army command decides, the nation, willy-nilly, follows. For nuclear doctrine – the narrative of deterrence – has been turned into a holy cow. No one dare question it for that amounts to a breach of patriotism.

Civilians in any event are careful to keep their hands off this subject – first, because they lack the expertise, not tutored in the hocus-pocus of deterrence; and, second, because the civilian leadership for the last 30 years if not more, from all sides of the political spectrum, has been more interested in such concrete endeavours as lining its pockets than worrying itself over such abstractions as nuclear doctrine.

There couldn’t be a neater division of labour: the military into defence, security, missiles and, let us not forget, defence housing authorities; and the civilians into dubious deals with fat commissions thrown in, overseas properties and offshore accounts – the military atop the commanding heights of national security and the civilians holding aloft the banner of democracy and ‘democratic continuity’.

This is a blanket amnesty scheme: all follies forgiven in the name of national security and all sins condonable at the altar of democracy.

Pakistan cannot invade and conquer Kashmir, whatever the Reverend Hafiz Saeed’s opinion on this subject. To hear him is to get a lesson in strategy Clausewitz would have found hard to configure. But Pakistan has enough strength to deter any Indian adventurism. So what is it afraid of?

Our generals should be teaching the nation assurance and self-confidence. Instead, serving or retired – and the retired ones are the worst – they continually feed a sense of chronic insecurity, aided by an entire army of retired foreign office hawks. As we know, there are no hawks like armchair hawks.

Pakistan has problems but they lie not in the realm of security or an imaginary nuclear imbalance. Pakistan is not educating its people and it is not creating enough wealth for national uplift and regeneration. Our economy is not ticking the way it should and our country is ridden with debt that soon would be unsustainable.

These are our problems, compounded by the fact that we have a ruling class that would scarcely find its match anywhere for unabashed corruption and incompetence. Are multiple-headed nuclear missiles the answer to these problems?

We once sold our so-called geostrategic importance as if the world revolved around the pivot of our geography. We are now pinning our hopes for the future on the Chinese corridor – anything for a free ride.

In the cold war there was no missile gap between the United States and the Soviet Union. This was a bogey raised at the time by American hawks and the military-industrial complex and it was so successful that the US entered a mad arms race, creating super-weapons of no earthly use for any kind of strategic balance. There is now an extensive literature on this subject and we in India and Pakistan could do worse than spend some time studying it.

There is no missile gap between India and Pakistan and those who say there is are fooling the Pakistani nation – that, let it be said, for all its vaunted cleverness, is easily fooled. Otherwise it wouldn’t easily suffer the chumps it has for its leaders, or easily put up with the doctrines that pass for nuclear necessity and wisdom.
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Next is "Almatar un naar"(Rain of fire, Aag ki Barish)
 
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Just a false rumors nothing else bro
Why man North Korea has 10,000km missile surely they don't have better scientists than us.:(:mad:

this article is a piece of crap.with right strategy, we can repel any hostile forces.as far as kashmir is concerned,fight will continue.author is telling us to stop missile program.the author don't even know how indian army works.indian army is still the army of tanks artillery,see the cold start doctrine.they are living in 60s.only solution of advancing indian army is to annihilate them completely without using soldiers.pakistan is in total command and it will continue to be more aggressive.there is nothing to worry about.our army is not living in 60s like indian army.

How do we defeat the American Navy? If America brings quite a few carrier strike groups in a hypothetical? We don't even have a strong 2nd strike.....
 
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