A tweet which shows Indians Blind Patriotism

[DESERT FIGHTER]

No by 2025 LCA would be more than 220 but LCA would be no where close I can assure you that


DAM I some times seriously feel jealous by your ability of smashing people with your writing

By 2025... LCA will become hyper fukin gallactic...

 

[randomradio]

If lca is better in everything why isnt it flying?

It's a nice 30 sec video.

Both being flown by the IAF.

No by 2025 LCA would be more than 220 but LCA would be no where close I can assure you that


DAM I some times seriously feel jealous by your ability of smashing people with your writing

Not making sense with the things you say followed by worshiping someone who's insulting someone's mother, your existence must be quite special.

The jokers saying LCA TEJAS is equal to J-20 are also Indians. And after long time I have seen an Indian Birgadier point out the flaws of LCA and your companies other wise you people have history of distorting facts and trying to portray LCA as best Fighter Jet in the world

It would help to read. The post did say "almost all."

Officers point our flaws in operational systems. There's nothing special in what he said.

 

[Daghalodi]

It's a nice 30 sec video.

Both being flown by the IAF.

I can also post an RC helicopter flying!!

Okay let me simple it down for you sanghi troll..IF LCA TEJAS is better than everything why isnt it flying with IAF ??? Or you just spend billions and forty years just for joy rides for dignitaries?

 

[randomradio]

I can also post an RC helicopter flying!!

That's the real aircraft there.

Here's the full video. Check the 2nd minute.

Okay let me simple it down for you sanghi troll..IF LCA TEJAS is better than everything why isnt it flying with IAF ??? Or you just spend billions and forty years just for joy rides for dignitaries?

It is already flying with the IAF.

https://idsa.in/idsacomments/tejas-one-year-after-induction-hal_sbmaharaj_120717
On 1st July 2016, No. 45 Squadron of the Indian Air Force (IAF) inducted the first two Serial Production models of the Tejas Mk.1 Light Combat Aircraft. More than a year has since elapsed since these first aircraft were inducted and they have now been joined by three more with a sixth scheduled to join shortly.

http://www.janes.com/article/73293/hal-aims-to-double-production-of-lca-over-next-three-years

 

[undercover JIX]

If lca is better in everything why isnt it flying?

Sir, there is a good reason for that, why to waste flying hours, when there is no competitor in this universe as yet. waiting for alien invasion to save the planet with Tejas....

 

[third eye]

https://twitter.com/x/status/962860168013910017

Notwithstanding the contents of the tweet which I am unable to contest for want of information.. Shouldn't patriotism be blind ?

 

[KapitaanAli]

1. A brig turned journalist tweeting nonsense from a paid article that pits Tejas against F16 and PLAAF's Su clones and J20 for sensationalism.

2. Some idiot responding with equal stupidity instead of giving a logical argument.

3. Respected memba as usual picking up the specific tweet and running with it instead of reading earlier threads on this matter.

4. Idiots responding to the thread as usual asking why IAF isn't flying Tejas while they've already formed a squadron with some of the highest people in charge and has 123 on order.

5. Nobody realising that the only complaint IAF has made recently is that Tejas alone isn't enough since it's for point defence. Not a complaint about the aircraft.

6. Vested interests on both sides of the border still quoting decade old opinions and anonymous sources.

All in all,

 

[randomradio]

Notwithstanding the contents of the tweet which I am unable to contest for want of information.. Shouldn't patriotism be blind ?

The tweet exaggerates quite a bit. It could have been worded entirely differently and still got the message across.

The LCA is inferior in many parameters, but on par or superior in some very specific areas compared to the Rafale and MKI, areas that the LCA was designed for compared to the other two aircraft.

The problem is the Brigadier and the Strat tweet showed far too much ignorance by talking about all the aircraft mentioned in general terms.

As for all the insults shared by all the esteemed members of this forum, those are simply the standards here, so just read and move on.

 

[war&peace]

Some Indians(number increases daily)are simply biologically incapable of seeing, hearing or even comprehending critique.

As an example:
You could tell a hypothetical example of this type of Indian who may be the son of a prostitute with AIDS regarding his mother’s profession but he might justify it by stating that she is not one woman selling her body but instead provides a rental service for her bodily pleasure abilities during which time her mind is connected with some dharmic cycle that allows the most effecient utilization of not just her bodily functions but also gives her access to a much more broad genetic pool for offspring along with financial income and her disease is nothing more than her serving as a vessel for any future Indian scientist to use vedic ideals to synthesize a cure from studying her.

After that they’ll try to divert the topic to Pakistan and terror or any other thing that avoids them any more exposure to the interal truth they face regarding their status as a bastard and a son of a whore that in reality burns the very lifeforce of their existence.

It is strange that Indians are unable to take any criticism even on their failed products / projects while we Pakistanis criticise everything especially me and @MastanKhan did a lot of criticism about JF-17's smaller size and a few other shortcomings which otherwise is an excellent platform and it is flying and taking part in coin operations...

but on par or superior in some very specific areas compared to the Rafale and MKI,

Would you like to highlight those areas and provide credible source / data to backup your claims??

 

[Daghalodi]

That's the real aircraft there.

Here's the full video. Check the 2nd minute.

It is already flying with the IAF.

https://idsa.in/idsacomments/tejas-one-year-after-induction-hal_sbmaharaj_120717
On 1st July 2016, No. 45 Squadron of the Indian Air Force (IAF) inducted the first two Serial Production models of the Tejas Mk.1 Light Combat Aircraft. More than a year has since elapsed since these first aircraft were inducted and they have now been joined by three more with a sixth scheduled to join shortly.

http://www.janes.com/article/73293/hal-aims-to-double-production-of-lca-over-next-three-years

An rc helicopter can fly too!!! Whats your point posting a video of tejas flying? My question was if tejas is the best of best why isnt it flying with iaf?

The article you posted talks about two aircrafts in a squadron with IOC not an FOC. Its still need gun trials just completing bvr trails???

Why isnt the best of best plane tejas flying in number with IAF?

Here is an article claiming IAF is NOT interested in your super duper tejas

http://www.defenseworld.net/news/21...made_Tejas_Light_Combat_Aircraft#.WoGUKkFRWaM

 

[randomradio]

It is strange that Indians are unable to take any criticism even on their failed products / projects while we Pakistanis criticise everything especially me and @MastanKhan did a lot of criticism about JF-17's smaller size and a few other shortcomings which otherwise is an excellent platform and it is flying and taking part in coin operations...

JF-17 wouldn't survive the criticism if it was an Indian jet.

The LCA variant that is repeatedly criticized in Indian media is in fact better than the JF-17 Block 2. I have already explained the reasons in previous posts.

Would you like to highlight those areas and provide credible source / data to backup your claims??

The stuff I have to say has not been released for public consumption yet. So I can only generalize.

LCA's avionics are naturally a generation ahead compared to the MKI since the MKI is still using 4 and 4+ gen technologies, not 4++. LCA will have pretty much everything short of stealth. It is highly likely that the Rafale's radar and EW suite will be included in the LCA, if not other equivalent options from DRDO, Israel or Sweden. So there is quite a bit of parity with more modern western aircraft. There is no need to explain anymore in this regard.

LCA was designed specifically for two purposes. As a high altitude point/area defence fighter meant to protect our territory from hostile aircraft, and as an escort fighter that protects strike aircraft.

LCA was made for high altitude combat. The definitive version will have a "flat rated engine" for high altitude. What that means is LCA's engine will generate full combat power at high altitude. No other aircraft, not even the F-22, can do that. All aircraft lose as much as 15% of their thrust at high altitude and even more over mountains. The high altitude supersonic performance of the LCA is highly classified, so you will never see any details released on this topic. But this ability gives it a huge advantage over other contemporary aircraft, including Rafale and MKI, both aircraft will have lower sea level TWR than LCA. It is for this very specific purpose that the Kaveri was designed as a variable cycle engine.

As for escort, the LCA has a very, very low RCS. Its frontal cross section is 200 times smaller than the MKI's and 15 times smaller than the F-16's. So the LCA has been designed to move around undetected and pick off enemy air defence fighters that are trying to target the IAF's strike aircraft, like the Jaguars.

The LCA has massive design advantages in these specific roles which very few aircraft can match, and definitely not the Rafale and MKI.

For all other functions, like strike, SEAD, air dominance etc, other aircraft like Rafale and MKI become more important because those are the missions these aircraft were designed for. LCA cannot compete in these roles because it is a small aircraft by design and naturally has less endurance and payload.

 

[Sully3]

not like the Pakistanis who induct a glorified trainer and call it a fighter and the Americans still playing politics with an aircraft that is yet to complete IOC.

If JF17 is a 'glorified trainer' with its numerous export orders then then Tejas is a glorified rickshaw

 

[war&peace]

JF-17 wouldn't survive the criticism if it was an Indian jet.

JF17 is not a sensitive human being, it is an A/C made of metals and composites so it does not feel criticism.

 

[Daghalodi]

JF-17 wouldn't survive the criticism if it was an Indian jet.

The LCA variant that is repeatedly criticized in Indian media is in fact better than the JF-17 Block 2. I have already explained the reasons in previous posts.



The stuff I have to say has not been released for public consumption yet. So I can only generalize.

LCA's avionics are naturally a generation ahead compared to the MKI since the MKI is still using 4 and 4+ gen technologies, not 4++. LCA will have pretty much everything short of stealth. It is highly likely that the Rafale's radar and EW suite will be included in the LCA, if not other equivalent options from DRDO, Israel or Sweden. So there is quite a bit of parity with more modern western aircraft. There is no need to explain anymore in this regard.

LCA was designed specifically for two purposes. As a high altitude point/area defence fighter meant to protect our territory from hostile aircraft, and as an escort fighter that protects strike aircraft.

LCA was made for high altitude combat. The definitive version will have a "flat rated engine" for high altitude. What that means is LCA's engine will generate full combat power at high altitude. No other aircraft, not even the F-22, can do that. All aircraft lose as much as 15% of their thrust at high altitude and even more over mountains. The high altitude supersonic performance of the LCA is highly classified, so you will never see any details released on this topic. But this ability gives it a huge advantage over other contemporary aircraft, including Rafale and MKI, both aircraft will have lower sea level TWR than LCA. It is for this very specific purpose that the Kaveri was designed as a variable cycle engine.

As for escort, the LCA has a very, very low RCS. Its frontal cross section is 200 times smaller than the MKI's and 15 times smaller than the F-16's. So the LCA has been designed to move around undetected and pick off enemy air defence fighters that are trying to target the IAF's strike aircraft, like the Jaguars.

The LCA has massive design advantages in these specific roles which very few aircraft can match, and definitely not the Rafale and MKI.

For all other functions, like strike, SEAD, air dominance etc, other aircraft like Rafale and MKI become more important because those are the missions these aircraft were designed for. LCA cannot compete in these roles because it is a small aircraft by design and naturally has less endurance and payload.

So much stealth , payload , maneuverability, service hours, maintance yet Indian Airforce still doesnt want it.

http://www.defenseworld.net/news/21...made_Tejas_Light_Combat_Aircraft#.WoGUKkFRWaM

 

[randomradio]

So much stealth , payload , maneuverability, service hours, maintance yet Indian Airforce still doesnt want it.

http://www.defenseworld.net/news/21...made_Tejas_Light_Combat_Aircraft#.WoGUKkFRWaM

They have ordered 123 jets already and will raise a request for 60 more.