A service message to the people of Pakistan.

[Erieye]

If your morale is feeling low, and you're thinking of just giving up, forgetting about everything, and letting whatever happen without resisting, then please remember the below:

No matter how bad the situation is or gets, you shouldn't give up but always fight to retake control of your country, especially against those who are sold out and working for hostile foreign interests. Fight against quasi-colonialism.

If you can't do this for your own people, for your own motherland, then what honour do you have? Did you ever care to begin with? Willingly allow the plans of conspirators to succeed, bowing down to dictation and colonialism, on your own lands without resistance...

There's no honour in that, didn't you establish Pakistan for the exact opposite and to decide your own destiny & fate, and to dictate yourself, not to be a slave colony??

Now you must always fight to retain that luxury, or bow down like you did to the British in dishonour and remain as slaves.

Let me remind you, Afghanistan spent 20 years being destroyed and pummled by the American war machine just to preserve their right to govern themselves and decide their own fate, yet still didn't give up and continued fighting, now you may not be Afghans, but are you telling me you can't fight against overweight LGBTQ theives at least?

@Menace2Society @villageidiot @313ghazi @Bleek

This is sort of an additional add-on to my earlier thread below - but I wanted to make this an independent thread for everyone to read.

Is this the end of Pakistan? Have the colonial traitors sold the nation out?

- Economy crashing - Homosexuality and LGBT flourishing - Semi-competent democracy (PTI) destroyed - Corrupt traitor inept dictatorship (PDM) installed - All institutions and ministries are failed, and about as useful as a kid with down syndrome in governing - Terrorism back (TTP) -...

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[AlKardai]

This is a struggle that everyone who has their heart in the homeland, will go through.

Pakistan shall stand as a strong state eventually. My only qualm is that it may not happen in our lifetimes

 

[TheSolution]

This is a struggle that everyone who has their heart in the homeland, will go through.

Pakistan shall stand as a strong state eventually. My only qualm is that it may not happen in our lifetimes

A strong foundation with strong institutions and system of accountability will allow you to live in comfort and peace.

At least you'll know its being left in good and competent hands, why would a soldier die fighting for a nation that is trying to destruct itself? His morale would also be low

 

[undercover JIX]

This is a struggle that everyone who has their heart in the homeland, will go through.

Pakistan shall stand as a strong state eventually. My only qualm is that it may not happen in our lifetimes

It may not happen during our life time, but what matters is, what we support and on which side we stand. Our this decision will play a role in shaping up the future, and if we pick a correct side to support it will become sadqa e jaria, these actions can become the reason for continuous blessings or punishment in our eternal life.

 

[Baburfromsarmarkand]

Nationalism is overrated. For the Elite, the world is their nation. Loyalty to tribe is what they care about. The Sharif clan, the bhutto clan, etc.
And thats the way we evolved for eons, cant fight nature. Nations come and go, bloodlines endure. Better to think like the elite, because they are winning.

 

[undercover JIX]

Nationalism is overrated. For the Elite, the world is their nation. Loyalty to tribe is what they care about. The Sharif clan, the bhutto clan, etc.
And thats the way we evolved for eons, cant fight nature. Nations come and go, bloodlines endure. Better to think like the elite, because they are winning.

You want us to go back to Vedic times???

Your comment goes against basic Islamic principals.

 

[Strigon]

I personally can send aid to help this country every month with what I can spare. Only if there is a trustable govt in Pakistan.
We overseas Pakistanis are only considered ATMs back home by both relatives and govt. No right to vote but remittances.
That's not how things work!

 

[Baburfromsarmarkand]

You want us to go back to Vedic times???

Your comment goes against basic Islamic principals.

What are you talking about. I dont know where democracy/nationalism is mentioned in islam, but feel free to cite anything.

 

[TheSolution]

Nationalism is overrated. For the Elite, the world is their nation. Loyalty to tribe is what they care about. The Sharif clan, the bhutto clan, etc.
And thats the way we evolved for eons, cant fight nature. Nations come and go, bloodlines endure. Better to think like the elite, because they are winning.

Spoken like a truly corrupt mf, no wonder Pakistan is failing. All you've sited is corrupt people who laundered money and exploited others.

Exclusive tribalism is the most retarded thing, take a look at Afghanistan and Pashtuns, all they've ever known is war, conflict and death on their lands.

Tribalist minded people are the easiest to control because you're a tiny group and someone either with force or more money can simply overwhelm and colonise you.

It's not until Afghanistan united its tribal factions as one and fought against the Americans did they win. No amount of money worked or even force.

And if you mean tribalism in the sense of looking out for your own bloodline first, then that can co-exist with nationalism. You can do both, have a successful bloodline while being a nationlist. A nation is an extension of every tribes/bloodlines power within it, and it protects their common interests and values.

Tribalism in the sense of caring your own family first has always existed, and co-exists with nationalism.

You literally only cited some corrupt mfs who laundered money.

 

[undercover JIX]

What are you talking about. I dont know where democracy/nationalism is mentioned in islam, but feel free to cite anything.

Nationalism is overrated. For the Elite, the world is their nation. Loyalty to tribe is what they care about. The Sharif clan, the bhutto clan, etc.
And thats the way we evolved for eons, cant fight nature. Nations come and go, bloodlines endure. Better to think like the elite, because they are winning.

Bold part is the main reason for comment.

If you have to ask me to explain my comment, than you are gone too far.

 

[TheSolution]

Bold part is the main reason for comment.

If you have to ask me to explain my comment, than you are gone too far.

He is essentially encouraging corruption and exploitation

Looking out for your family first is not a new concept, has existed since forever and co-exists with nationalism. It's part of being human.

Nationalism is an extension of tribalism in the sense it looks out for the interests of a collective group with the same interests/qualities.

It is the macro level of tribalism.

I think he lacks the brainpower to figure out the second part.

 

[undercover JIX]

He is essentially encouraging corruption and exploitation

Looking out for your family first is not a new concept, has existed since forever and co-exists with nationalism. It's part of being human.

Nationalism is an extension of tribalism in the sense it looks out for the interests of a collective group with the same interests/qualities.

It is the macro level of tribalism.

I think he lacks the brainpower to figure out the second part.

You can carry on with this genius, I am too dumb to talk to intellectuals of specific kind.

I can humbly apologize to him and relax.

 

[Baburfromsarmarkand]

Spoken like a truly corrupt mf, no wonder Pakistan is failing. All you've sited is corrupt people who laundered money and exploited others.

Exclusive tribalism is the most retarded thing, take a look at Afghanistan and Pashtuns, all they've ever known is war, conflict and death on their lands.

Tribalist minded people are the easiest to control because you're a tiny group and someone either with force or more money can simply overwhelm and colonise you.

It's not until Afghanistan united its tribal factions as one and fought against the Americans did they win.

And if you mean tribalism in the sense of looking out for your own bloodline first, then that can co-exist with nationalism. A nation is an extension of every tribes/bloodlines power and protects their common interests and values.

1. Are the global elite tribal? do the Clintons, Kennedy's, Sharif's etc have any loyalty to their nations?
2. The afghans are the most free ppl in the world perhaps., far more free than us.
3. Since there will always be a ruling elite, distinct from everyone else, nationhood is basically becoming a vassal to another tribe.
Feel free to refute, but globally there most certainly is an elite who have no loyalty to any nation and they dictate their own countries.

 

[TheSolution]

You can carry on with this genius, I am too dumb to talk to intellectuals of specific kind.

I can humbly apologize to him and relax.

I don't want to either actually I'm done

 

[undercover JIX]

I don't want to either actually I'm done

Please dont do that, you might learn something.