A 'Normal' Weekend In Kashmir After Nearly Four Months

[Crixus]

Srinagar:
Highlights

1. Markets opened, public transport functioned after 4 months in Kashmir
2. Separatists-called shutdown was relaxed for Saturday and Sunday
3. Unrest in Kashmir began after Hizbul's Burhan Wani was killed on July 8

Srinagar, along with rest of Kashmir, was buzzing with activity today with offices, shops and other business establishments opening in the valley which saw return of normalcy after 133 days of shutdown as separatists suspended their protest for the weekend.

The situation has been by and large peaceful over the last few weeks in the valley, which had been hit by clashes between violent protesters and security forces following the killing of Hizbul Mujahideen terrorist Burhan Wani in an encounter on July 8. The unrest had left 86 people dead and many others, including 5,000 security personnel, injured.

Shops, offices, business establishments and fuel stations opened this morning for a full day for the first time since the unrest began. While some had started opening earlier defying the separatists, others did business few hours on some days of the week whenever relaxation in the strike was announced.

There was massive traffic on the roads in Srinagar - the summer capital - as public transport resumed fully and people came out to carry out their day to day activities today. The authorities had increased the presence of traffic personnel on the roads to manage the traffic.

Similar reports of people resuming their normal life were received from most of the other district headquarters of the Valley.

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With the start of Board exams for classes 10 and 12 this week, life in the valley had been gradually returning to normalcy. The authorities last night restored mobile internet services on postpaid numbers due to improvement in situation.

However, such facility on prepaid numbers continued to remain snapped and there is no word yet on their restoration.

The separatists have been issuing weekly protest programmes. They had for the first time announced a two-day relaxation in the strike beginning today.
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[Rajaraja Chola]

Lol. Other parts of Kashmir was working just fine except for Sri Nagar. Though I believe its time Kashmir opens up more industries in Jammu, so Kashmir youth's are employed. SLowly and steadily they will be absorbed into the mainstream.

 

[Crixus]

Tourim and Fruits cultivation will help a lot to improve the situation in Kashmir , If all those stone pelting is internal matter then it sholud not stop by now , its just external funding which stopped so the stone pelting ....note ban impacted the stone pelters the most ....

no money no stone

Lol. Other parts of Kashmir was working just fine except for Sri Nagar. Though I believe its time Kashmir opens up more industries in Jammu, so Kashmir youth's are employed. SLowly and steadily they will be absorbed into the mainstream.

 

[Cookie Monster]

Tourim and Fruits cultivation will help a lot to improve the situation in Kashmir , If all those stone pelting is internal matter then it sholud not stop by now , its just external funding which stopped so the stone pelting ....note ban impacted the stone pelters the most ....

no money no stone

I don't understand that logic. So u think a few hundred dollars will convince a person to throw stones at armed men endangering his life and possibly endangering his family? Would u do it? How about for a few thousand dollars? I'm sure the answer would be NO.

Secondly if we assume that Kashmiris are selling their lives away for a few hundred dollars then for sure India can pay them way more than Pakistan can since we see Indians harping about how much money u guys have every single day. Surely that would fix the problem. J&K would be peaceful and everybody would be singing Indian National Anthem on the streets right?

Instead of coming up with BS like this and blindly listening to the media, consider this:
Imagine the kind of atrocities one must have suffered to stand up to a mighty army with nothing but a stone in his/her hand knowing full well that they might die for this. Did u imagine that? Now how about go fix those problems and make sure that those injustices don't happen and just maybe u'll have peace in Kashmir rather than uprisings and protests.

 

[Ajayk]

Best thing about this is that the impotency of these terrorists in fomenting trouble.
It is that impotency that is giving me the most satisfaction. They are frothing from the mouth with utter confusion and disorientation...And on top of that they are getting killed like pigs

 

[Crixus]

I agree what ever you aesaying so what your logical mind i saying the reason why protests and stone pelting stoped ????
The Hurriyat leadership bycotted the exams still students are ging for board exams??? Why

I agree with you now there will be a massive crack down on all those behind the stone pelters , sources of their fundings so such will not happen again.

I dont know this media become golden words when some Pakistani quote it but it become bullshit when it say some thing which is not as per Pakistani line ..

Just one more thing whats the why there are no more threads from Pakistani members on protests in Kashmir now ????

I don't understand that logic. So u think a few hundred dollars will convince a person to throw stones at armed men endangering his life and possibly endangering his family? Would u do it? How about for a few thousand dollars? I'm sure the answer would be NO.

Secondly if we assume that Kashmiris are selling their lives away for a few hundred dollars then for sure India can pay them way more than Pakistan can since we see Indians harping about how much money u guys have every single day. Surely that would fix the problem. J&K would be peaceful and everybody would be singing Indian National Anthem on the streets right?

Instead of coming up with BS like this and blindly listening to the media, consider this:
Imagine the kind of atrocities one must have suffered to stand up to a mighty army with nothing but a stone in his/her hand knowing full well that they might die for this. Did u imagine that? Now how about go fix those problems and make sure that those injustices don't happen and just maybe u'll have peace in Kashmir rather than uprisings and protests.

 

[Cookie Monster]

I agree what ever you aesaying so what your logical mind i saying the reason why protests and stone pelting stoped ????
The Hurriyat leadership bycotted the exams still students are ging for board exams??? Why

I agree with you now there will be a massive crack down on all those behind the stone pelters , sources of their fundings so such will not happen again.

Just one more thing whats the why there are no more threads from Pakistani members on protests in Kashmir now ????

Don't exactly know what u r saying here

I dont know this media become golden words when some Pakistani quote it but it become bullshit when it say some thing which is not as per Pakistani line ..

I consider most of the Indian media BS no matter if it's in favor of Pakistan or against. Their general approach is to create baseless hype just for ratings or to gain some viewers or popularity not caring much for the truthfulness and authenticity of the news.

 

[Hiptullha]

Lol. Other parts of Kashmir was working just fine except for Sri Nagar. Though I believe its time Kashmir opens up more industries in Jammu, so Kashmir youth's are employed. SLowly and steadily they will be absorbed into the mainstream.

Hold on, hold on! Where did I hear this before?....

https://defence.pk/threads/j-k-assembly-polls-voters-defy-militants-over-70-turnout-recor

What did I tell ya all? Did in the morning.... suddenly things became damn cold. Gillani is crying in the gutter.

NO ACT OF VIOLENCE either. More peaceful than UP/Bihar polls.

It's all the 2 million army men voting.

Soon we will find out about the fake ballot papers,corruption scandals of election commision and the evil plans of the courts.No wonders they are dubbed as sham polls.

How can people of J&K live in such a shameful and disgusting setup.

Seriously? An election commission constituted by evil yindoos headed by another baniya yindoo ! Who in their right senses believe these blown up figures .

Terrorist Indian Army forced people out of their homes and forced people to vote

A big middle finger to separatists by Kashmiris who called for election boycott.

A welcome scenario , Indian democracy won, J&K will develop and remain in India !!

So much for Kashmir freedom fighters

@Zarvan.

The look on those faces which dream of liberating kashmir.

haha.. up your's separatists!

B'coz separatists called for poll boycott and 70% turnout means 70% people of J&K care a rat's azz to what separatists say and do

The voting % is far better than even big states like Maharastra or Tamilnadu....Poor sepratist and old boy Geelani...

Does not matter...what it matters for me that people of the troubled region established faith in the democratic process of my nation rather supporting terrorist sympathiser separatist...Wheather BJP wins or not it is our internal debate and this is secondary in nature...

For the first time in 25 years, people ignored a boycott call by separatists. Hats off to people of Jammu and Kashmir who defied militant threats and came out in large numbers to vote. It is a clear victory of democratic principles of our country. Most important aspect of today's election was no militancy-related incident was reported in Jammu and Kashmir today.

means they believe the govt is representative. That's all it takes. You don't get 80% of the pop for some stopgap govt. The process is mainstream now.

You people can't keep thinking like this. Sending your gang of rapist thugs from the Ganga plains to the valley, blinding young teens and shutting off communications, and then coming out after 3 months of violence and beatings to make empty claims and taunts of progress and integration. It won't work.

The whole world might not have seen the way you disgusting people cheered on your gang of thugs, but I can bet the Kashmiri people did, and you must be seriously deluded if you think they'll integrate with such a shameless nation.

 

[Crixus]

India Media is BS more or less I agree with you but the Kashmir issue is vanished from your news also why ??
offcource the death of Burhan wani was the trigger point but it was fueld by outside after that ... India is a poor country and yes people can risk their lives for some dollars ...its truth

Don't exactly know what u r saying here


I consider most of the Indian media BS no matter if it's in favor of Pakistan or against. Their general approach is to create baseless hype just for ratings or to gain some viewers or popularity not caring much for the truthfulness and authenticity of the news.

 

[Cookie Monster]

India Media is BS more or less I agree with you but the Kashmir issue is vanished from your news also why ??
offcource the death of Burhan wani was the trigger point but it was fueld by outside after that ... India is a poor country and yes people can risk their lives for some dollars ...its truth

Yes I agree India is a poor country and people might be willing to go to lengths for money but endangering ur own and ur family's life? One has to be forced into a corner to even consider that.

Pakistan is a poor country too where do u think we r getting the money to supposedly "pay these people to revolt".
Now if u think that yes Pakistanis are poor but it is the Pakistan government paying these ppl to revolt then in that case why isn't the Indian government paying these Kashmiris even more to be pro India?
If as u suggest that these Kashmiris are sell outs, don't u think it was the golden chance for Modi to pay them more than Pakistan and have peace? So that he can boast about it and gain more support in India?

Modi is smart. Given the chance he would've jumped on it and "bought" peace in Kashmir even if only for his self interest. But u know why he didn't? Bcuz there is no such thing as buying those people. They are not being blinded and getting killed for the sake of a few hundred dollars. This is made up by ur media to be able to firmly point the finger at Pakistan to hide their own incompetences.

Have u not read about civil wars in other countries? Or ur own country's history? Such uprisings and protests happen when a large group of people are angry with the government. Look at the French Revolution, the Russian Revolution, the American Revolution, the American civil war, and the list goes on.
It is simply bcuz Kashmiris are angry with the Indian government/army. For once put aside ur national pride and think as a human. Those Kashmiris are human too. They feel the same pain, the same joy as u do. What do u think would happen when they are tortured and killed and dumped in mass graves, their mothers/sisters/daughters are raped. What do u think they would do? They would try to do everything in their power to fight that oppression. This is exactly what they are doing.

And in return what does the majority of Indian public do? Instead of showing solidarity with the Kashmiris(that u consider Indian citizens) and demanding that justice be done and all oppression must end. U guys firmly put the blame on Kashmiris and Pakistan and let the status quo prevail. Einstein defined insanity as "doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results". So go ahead chalk up this wave of protests and unrest in Kashmir to "the foreign hand of Pakistan" yet again for the hundredth time, see if that solves the problem.

 

[Crixus]

Yes I agree India is a poor country and people might be willing to go to lengths for money but endangering ur own and ur family's life? One has to be forced into a corner to even consider that.
How you know , the families will be in danger ?? just for sake of example suicide bombers do they consider the safety of their families ??

Pakistan is a poor country too where do u think we r getting the money to supposedly "pay these people to revolt".
Now if u think that yes Pakistanis are poor but it is the Pakistan government paying these ppl to revolt then in that case why isn't the Indian government paying these Kashmiris even more to be pro India?
Indian govt is pumping enough money in Kashmir in infra projects , in education in health , the annual budget of Kashmir is more then Pakistan's defence budget , The reason why Pakistanis fuiling these protestes is to highlight the issue , and Indian govt is not interested in discussing , Kashmir with your govt anymore , Pakistan dont have any leverage to force India to discuss so fuling tension in velly is the easy and cheap way out.
If as u suggest that these Kashmiris are sell outs, don't u think it was the golden chance for Modi to pay them more than Pakistan and have peace? So that he can boast about it and gain more support in India?

Modi is smart thats why these protests stopped immediately after demontaization , asfar as support for India is concerned it does not matter what 6 million people think or few 100 throw stones .

Modi is smart. Given the chance he would've jumped on it and "bought" peace in Kashmir even if only for his self interest. But u know why he didn't? Bcuz there is no such thing as buying those people. They are not being blinded and getting killed for the sake of a few hundred dollars. This is made up by ur media to be able to firmly point the finger at Pakistan to hide their own incompetences.

Why Modi bought anyone , if he is smart he will invest in border managemnet , to cut the source of weapons , training's and the external interference in valley .

Have u not read about civil wars in other countries? Or ur own country's history? Such uprisings and protests happen when a large group of people are angry with the government. Look at the French Revolution, the Russian Revolution, the American Revolution, the American civil war, and the list goes on.

I read and aware of all those revolutions , What kind of revolution is this which just come once in every 6-7 years , even Kashmiris know the ground reality , thats due to this militancy they just ruined their generations

It is simply bcuz Kashmiris are angry with the Indian government/army. For once put aside ur national pride and think as a human. Those Kashmiris are human too. They feel the same pain, the same joy as u do. What do u think would happen when they are tortured and killed and dumped in mass graves, their mothers/sisters/daughters are raped. What do u think they would do? They would try to do everything in their power to fight that oppression. This is exactly what they are doing.

I understand as a human being the pain which Kashmirs have faced and believe me if such situation happened withot Pakistan many Indians could have supported the Kashmiris , read about Irom Sharmila . Kashmirs lost the support of Indians as their agitations are religion oriented not Kashmiri oriented and they did worse with Pandits so how can they complained when they did even worse when they got a chance.

And in return what does the majority of Indian public do? Instead of showing solidarity with the Kashmiris(that u consider Indian citizens) and demanding that justice be done and all oppression must end. U guys firmly put the blame on Kashmiris and Pakistan and let the status quo prevail. Einstein defined insanity as "doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results". So go ahead chalk up this wave of protests and unrest in Kashmir to "the foreign hand of Pakistan" yet again for the hundredth time, see if that solves the problem.

Read about Kashmiri Pandits , if you support the Kashmiri Pandits denounce the actions of Kashmiri muslims against pandits .They dont deserve any solidarity as they did more inhumane thisng with Pandits. You are right , Pakistani establishment is doing same from last 25 years in Kashmir and expecting some different outcome every time

 

[Ajayk]

It is simply bcuz Kashmiris are angry with the Indian government/army. For once put aside ur national pride and think as a human. Those Kashmiris are human too. They feel the same pain, the same joy as u do. What do u think would happen when they are tortured and killed and dumped in mass graves, their mothers/sisters/daughters are raped. What do u think they would do? They would try to do everything in their power to fight that oppression. This is exactly what they are doing.

The incredible double standards...
Kashmiris are angry?!! Which ones? The Kashmiri Pandits on which the Wahabi terrorists committed genocide?

If you mean Kashmiri terrorists are angry then let me know how angry Kashmiri Pandits should be and if they are justified in taking guns and bombs, go to Valley and start attacking anything connected to the 'kind of people' that massacred them?

Waiting on double standard post from your end..

 

[halupridol]

So kashmiri bhayyas already phussed,,,aww
Neway it was expected

 

[thesolar65]

With New Notes!

 

[Cookie Monster]

The incredible double standards...
Kashmiris are angry?!! Which ones? The Kashmiri Pandits on which the Wahabi terrorists committed genocide?

If you mean Kashmiri terrorists are angry then let me know how angry Kashmiri Pandits should be and if they are justified in taking guns and bombs, go to Valley and start attacking anything connected to the 'kind of people' that massacred them?

Waiting on double standard post from your end..

Read about Kashmiri Pandits , if you support the Kashmiri Pandits denounce the actions of Kashmiri muslims against pandits .They dont deserve any solidarity as they did more inhumane thisng with Pandits. You are right , Pakistani establishment is doing same from last 25 years in Kashmir and expecting some different outcome every time

Kashmiri pandits are brought up...and moreover u as an Indian couldn't control ur hatred of me a Pakistani so u jumped to the conclusion that obviously I would have a double standard and wouldn't think of the pandits in the same manner simply bcuz they r of a different religion...

One word to describe all of that would be "predictable"

I'm a new member here and so this is the first time I'm discussing my perspective on the Pandits issue here. So feel free to tag any other members who would definitely question(or assume) my position on Kashmiri pandits every time the issue of Kashmir is brought up. So here it goes
Yes those Kashmiri pandits deserve justice too. They shouldn't have been kicked out from their homes. They should be brought back and whoever is at fault should pay for the crime accordingly.
**a bunch of Pakistan hating RSS affiliated goons gasp in the background**

But here is my question to u. What did u expect to happen? In a backwards society like ours(people of the subcontinent) it is easy for a few assholes to light the fire of communal tensions based on caste and religion. The golden temple incident, the massacre in Gujrat, babri masjid, etc. The list is long. This was the very reason partition happened.

Yes I agree India is a poor country and people might be willing to go to lengths for money but endangering ur own and ur family's life? One has to be forced into a corner to even consider that.
How you know , the families will be in danger ?? just for sake of example suicide bombers do they consider the safety of their families ??

Pakistan is a poor country too where do u think we r getting the money to supposedly "pay these people to revolt".
Now if u think that yes Pakistanis are poor but it is the Pakistan government paying these ppl to revolt then in that case why isn't the Indian government paying these Kashmiris even more to be pro India?
Indian govt is pumping enough money in Kashmir in infra projects , in education in health , the annual budget of Kashmir is more then Pakistan's defence budget , The reason why Pakistanis fuiling these protestes is to highlight the issue , and Indian govt is not interested in discussing , Kashmir with your govt anymore , Pakistan dont have any leverage to force India to discuss so fuling tension in velly is the easy and cheap way out.
If as u suggest that these Kashmiris are sell outs, don't u think it was the golden chance for Modi to pay them more than Pakistan and have peace? So that he can boast about it and gain more support in India?

Modi is smart thats why these protests stopped immediately after demontaization , asfar as support for India is concerned it does not matter what 6 million people think or few 100 throw stones .

Modi is smart. Given the chance he would've jumped on it and "bought" peace in Kashmir even if only for his self interest. But u know why he didn't? Bcuz there is no such thing as buying those people. They are not being blinded and getting killed for the sake of a few hundred dollars. This is made up by ur media to be able to firmly point the finger at Pakistan to hide their own incompetences.

Why Modi bought anyone , if he is smart he will invest in border managemnet , to cut the source of weapons , training's and the external interference in valley .

Have u not read about civil wars in other countries? Or ur own country's history? Such uprisings and protests happen when a large group of people are angry with the government. Look at the French Revolution, the Russian Revolution, the American Revolution, the American civil war, and the list goes on.

I read and aware of all those revolutions , What kind of revolution is this which just come once in every 6-7 years , even Kashmiris know the ground reality , thats due to this militancy they just ruined their generations

It is simply bcuz Kashmiris are angry with the Indian government/army. For once put aside ur national pride and think as a human. Those Kashmiris are human too. They feel the same pain, the same joy as u do. What do u think would happen when they are tortured and killed and dumped in mass graves, their mothers/sisters/daughters are raped. What do u think they would do? They would try to do everything in their power to fight that oppression. This is exactly what they are doing.

I understand as a human being the pain which Kashmirs have faced and believe me if such situation happened withot Pakistan many Indians could have supported the Kashmiris , read about Irom Sharmila . Kashmirs lost the support of Indians as their agitations are religion oriented not Kashmiri oriented and they did worse with Pandits so how can they complained when they did even worse when they got a chance.

And in return what does the majority of Indian public do? Instead of showing solidarity with the Kashmiris(that u consider Indian citizens) and demanding that justice be done and all oppression must end. U guys firmly put the blame on Kashmiris and Pakistan and let the status quo prevail. Einstein defined insanity as "doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results". So go ahead chalk up this wave of protests and unrest in Kashmir to "the foreign hand of Pakistan" yet again for the hundredth time, see if that solves the problem.

Read about Kashmiri Pandits , if you support the Kashmiri Pandits denounce the actions of Kashmiri muslims against pandits .They dont deserve any solidarity as they did more inhumane thisng with Pandits. You are right , Pakistani establishment is doing same from last 25 years in Kashmir and expecting some different outcome every time

If u r hell bent on thinking that just for a little bit of money from Pakistan a person would willingly put himself/herself in harm's way well then there is no point in discussing it any further.

Let's abandon that discussion and assume that u r 100% correct and Pakistan is supporting the uprising in Kashmir. What else do u think an "enemy" would do? Extend a helping hand? It's expected of an enemy to go against u isn't it?
But here's my question to u. Why is it that Kashmiris are accepting Pakistan's help? If Indian government/army was as benevolent to them as u think why would they be willing to work with the enemy? If Pakistan offers u money would u go throw stones at the risk of being shot? What differentiates u(an Indian) from a Kashmiri(an Indian) throwing a stone?

Here is ur answer...injustices and oppression.
If ur sister got raped by a soldier or if ur father was tortured, killed and dumped in a mass grave. U will do everything in ur power to take revenge or get justice.

So why not address those injustices so Kashmiris just like u wouldn't join hands with the "enemy" and rise up?