A lie repeated often becomes truth---- the west used this trick to Xinjiang

[kankan326]

I'm confused why I have to talk about Xinjiang human right violation and Uyghur genocide topic now. Isn't the whole story based on zero proof fact? Exept some crying Uyghur women interviews(How these women left China if they were put in concerntration camp and facing genocide by the way?) and some prisons pictures(Xingjiang having prisons and Uyghur prisoners is a big deal?), there is no solid proof. Not even one. No massive dead bodies were found and no refugees were found in neighbour countries.

The basic law of the world : You can not accuse a person or a country of a crime without proof. All judges would igore these crying Uyghur women's words if they are in court. Is that too complex to understand?

As the no proof accuser. the west just repeated their lies by releasing another one crying Uyghur woman's video from time to time. To my surprise, the world totally bought their cheap lies. Every one in the internet talks Xinjiang now. A repeated lie finally became a truth. Now it's time for the west to move to the next step. Sanctions are coming. Western countries, who claim they respect rule of law, already sentenced guilty to China.

We are living in a crazy world. People's shamelessness and stupidity are beyond my imagination.

Luckily China is not Iraq. China has power to deal with these liars in a fair way.

 

[Piotr]

I'm confused why I have to talk about Xinjiang human right violation and Uyghur genocide topic now. Isn't the whole story based on zero proof fact? Exept some crying Uyghur women interviews(How these women left China if they were put in concerntration camp and facing genocide by the way?) and some prisons pictures(Xingjiang having prisons and Uyghur prisoners is a big deal?), there is no solid proof. Not even one. No massive dead bodies were found and no refugees were found in neighbour countries.

The basic law of the world : You can not accuse a person or a country of a crime without proof. All judges would igore these crying Uyghur women's words if they are in court. Is that too complex to understand?

As the no proof accuser. the west just repeated their lies by releasing another one crying Uyghur woman's video from time to time. To my surprise, the world totally bought their cheap lies. Every one in the internet talks Xinjiang now. A repeated lie finally became a truth. Now it's time for the west to move to the next step. Sanctions are coming. Western countries, who claim they respect rule of law, already sentenced guilty to China.

We are living in a crazy world. People's shamelessness and stupidity are beyond my imagination.

Luckily China is not Iraq. China has power to deal with these liars in a fair way.

A lie is a lie, period. Even Muricans are less and less likely to buy US propaganda:
Americans’ trust in mainstream media has never been lower – but journalists insist it’s the audience’s fault, not theirs

As US Empire is unraveling US propaganda is also going to be less efective.
US propaganda used to be quite effective because US used to have high standard of living. As US standard of living is declining people in the US are going to be angry at Anglo-Saxons and regime in Washington.

We are living in a crazy world. People's shamelessness and stupidity are beyond my imagination.

And what can US trolls do to China ? Barking dogs of US imperialism bark, but the Chinese caravan moves on. US trolls will stop barking when US Empire collapse.

Luckily China is not Iraq. China has power to deal with these liars in a fair way.

China also helps dissidents. Bear in mind that Edward Snowden was saved by both China and Russia.
Unfortunateli you guys didn't menage to save dissident Julian Assange from English Nazis:

 

[hualushui]

 

[CAPRICORN-88]

The images on Tiktok illustrated the present reality in Xinjiang.

Liberated and free, the younger female Uyghurs are getting bolder and bolder, protected by the laws of the land in China discarding the black attire, hijabs, scarfs which are all imported cultures and exhibiting their beauty as per Uyghur traditions.

I am wondering why the West wanted them to look like those images they are promoting in BBC.

 

[Sheikh Rauf]

I'm confused why I have to talk about Xinjiang human right violation and Uyghur genocide topic now. Isn't the whole story based on zero proof fact? Exept some crying Uyghur women interviews(How these women left China if they were put in concerntration camp and facing genocide by the way?) and some prisons pictures(Xingjiang having prisons and Uyghur prisoners is a big deal?), there is no solid proof. Not even one. No massive dead bodies were found and no refugees were found in neighbour countries.

The basic law of the world : You can not accuse a person or a country of a crime without proof. All judges would igore these crying Uyghur women's words if they are in court. Is that too complex to understand?

As the no proof accuser. the west just repeated their lies by releasing another one crying Uyghur woman's video from time to time. To my surprise, the world totally bought their cheap lies. Every one in the internet talks Xinjiang now. A repeated lie finally became a truth. Now it's time for the west to move to the next step. Sanctions are coming. Western countries, who claim they respect rule of law, already sentenced guilty to China.

We are living in a crazy world. People's shamelessness and stupidity are beyond my imagination.

Luckily China is not Iraq. China has power to deal with these liars in a fair way.

Its india's policy that lie as much as you cud so people start believing it.
China start to know them now we have been their our leader even said we havent seen them in freedom they only act nice when slaves.. so their you go india is opening up under Modi rss bajrandal shiv sehna their are more terrorist but these few are prominent.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

I'm confused why I have to talk about Xinjiang human right violation and Uyghur genocide topic now. Isn't the whole story based on zero proof fact? Exept some crying Uyghur women interviews(How these women left China if they were put in concerntration camp and facing genocide by the way?) and some prisons pictures(Xingjiang having prisons and Uyghur prisoners is a big deal?), there is no solid proof. Not even one. No massive dead bodies were found and no refugees were found in neighbour countries.

The basic law of the world : You can not accuse a person or a country of a crime without proof. All judges would igore these crying Uyghur women's words if they are in court. Is that too complex to understand?

As the no proof accuser. the west just repeated their lies by releasing another one crying Uyghur woman's video from time to time. To my surprise, the world totally bought their cheap lies. Every one in the internet talks Xinjiang now. A repeated lie finally became a truth. Now it's time for the west to move to the next step. Sanctions are coming. Western countries, who claim they respect rule of law, already sentenced guilty to China.

We are living in a crazy world. People's shamelessness and stupidity are beyond my imagination.

Luckily China is not Iraq. China has power to deal with these liars in a fair way.

The Chinese government sham about "volunteer re-training" camps is unraveling. Now even Amnesty International is speaking out

Amnesty condemns Xinjiang’s ‘tragedy of Uighur family separation’

Rights group says China’s crackdown in Xinjiang is preventing exiled Uighur parents from reuniting with their children.

www.aljazeera.com

Soon the Chinese dbl-speak will occur here when you'll say there was never any official Chinese statement calling these detentions "voluntary" and it was actually "involuntary precautionary re-training".

 

[kankan326]

The Chinese government sham about "volunteer re-training" camps is unraveling. Now even Amnesty International is speaking out

Amnesty condemns Xinjiang’s ‘tragedy of Uighur family separation’

Rights group says China’s crackdown in Xinjiang is preventing exiled Uighur parents from reuniting with their children.

www.aljazeera.com

Soon the Chinese dbl-speak will occur here when you'll say there was never any official Chinese statement calling these detentions "voluntary" and it was actually "involuntary precautionary re-training".

If there is any Chinese government document that said "volunteer", show me here. China never denied skills and language schools in Xingjiang. These education institutions are to alleviate poverty and unemployment among Uyghurs and in turn to eliminate soil of terrorism. Do you have any other better suggestion to save a group of people who were infected by terrorism? I know US has its own way to settle the problem. Bomb them.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

If there is any Chinese government document that said "volunteer", show me here.

haha I knew it.

Please clarify to us all the process by which the Uighurs end up in these "training centers".

 

[kankan326]

haha I knew it.

Please clarify to us all the process by which the Uighurs end up in these "training centers".

Please show me the proof that Chinese government said "volunteer". You started the topic please end it. No need to clarify the training shools. I believe there are skills and language training schools in every country. You can visit one at your home. No difference.

 

[S10]

Xinjiang "genocide" is the new Iraq "WMD", based on exaggeration and fabrications. The so called "concentration camps" are nothing more than a modified reiteration of the Laogai system (Reform through labor). It is not new or intended to kill. Is it nice? Not really. Is it effective? Hell yeah.

The fact of the matter is that Xinjiang is the fastest growing economy in China, and there has been zero terrorist incident since 2014 compared to the weekly attacks before. The standard of living for people in the region is steadily rising thanks to Belt and Road investments and booming tourism. Uyghurs have greater standard of living and economic opportunities than any point in history, while the shackles of Wahabism no longer loom over the region.

Think the tough security measures are wrong? Not according to utilitarianism.

Utilitarianism holds that the most ethical choice is the one that will produce the greatest good for the greatest number.

 

[Zsari]

The Chinese government sham about "volunteer re-training" camps is unraveling. Now even Amnesty International is speaking out

What do you mean by EVEN Amnesty International? AI has been leading attacks on China all along.

Amnesty International is US State Department Propaganda - Global ResearchGlobal Research - Centre for Research on Globalization

 

[War Thunder]

I'm confused why I have to talk about Xinjiang human right violation and Uyghur genocide topic now. Isn't the whole story based on zero proof fact? Exept some crying Uyghur women interviews(How these women left China if they were put in concerntration camp and facing genocide by the way?) and some prisons pictures(Xingjiang having prisons and Uyghur prisoners is a big deal?), there is no solid proof. Not even one. No massive dead bodies were found and no refugees were found in neighbour countries.

The basic law of the world : You can not accuse a person or a country of a crime without proof. All judges would igore these crying Uyghur women's words if they are in court. Is that too complex to understand?

As the no proof accuser. the west just repeated their lies by releasing another one crying Uyghur woman's video from time to time. To my surprise, the world totally bought their cheap lies. Every one in the internet talks Xinjiang now. A repeated lie finally became a truth. Now it's time for the west to move to the next step. Sanctions are coming. Western countries, who claim they respect rule of law, already sentenced guilty to China.

We are living in a crazy world. People's shamelessness and stupidity are beyond my imagination.

Luckily China is not Iraq. China has power to deal with these liars in a fair way.

I'm pretty sure all the Pakistani men whose Uyghur wives had gone back to China and held and never allowed to return were all lying and pretending and it was all set up by the Pakistani government to malign China?

Locked away, forgotten: Muslim Uighur wives of Pakistani men

ISLAMABAD (AP) — The last time Chaudhry Javed Atta saw his wife was over a year ago — the Pakistani trader in dried and fresh produce was leaving their home in northwestern China's heavily Muslim Xinjiang region to go back to his country to renew his visa...

apnews.com

'My Family Has Been Broken': Pakistanis Fear For Uighur Wives Held In China

Rights groups estimate as many as 1 million Uighurs are detained in Chinese camps, with the aim of stripping away their ethnic identity, suppressing their Muslim faith and ensuring loyalty to China.

www.npr.org

https://twitter.com/x/status/1053271403171102720

Pakistanis distressed as Uighur wives vanish in China dragnet | The Express Tribune

The chinese authorities should at least allow the men to meet their wives and children

tribune.com.pk

Pakistanis in China seek answers about detained Uighur wives

Two Pakistani men went to their embassy in Beijing on Wednesday to lobby for help in reuniting with their wives, who they say are ethnic Uighurs blocked from leaving China, in an example of how a sweeping crackdown has spilled across China's borders.

www.ctvnews.ca

Stop covering up the actions of your government. That's if you are actually a citizen and not a CCCP paid trouble creator.


What is stopping China from allowing free access to several vloggers or independent journalists to prove its case?
You claim there is no proof. There are testimonies of tones of people in the Internet.
What else do you expect to come out of a controlled and subjugated society like yours?
Can anyone say anything freely in China and not disappear?
Should I give you proof and examples for that?

Or should I now trust a representative of the Chinese regime to spread some truth?

 

[kankan326]

I'm pretty sure all the Pakistani men whose Uyghur wives had gone back to China and held and never allowed to return were all lying and pretending and it was all set up by the Pakistani government to malign China?

Locked away, forgotten: Muslim Uighur wives of Pakistani men

ISLAMABAD (AP) — The last time Chaudhry Javed Atta saw his wife was over a year ago — the Pakistani trader in dried and fresh produce was leaving their home in northwestern China's heavily Muslim Xinjiang region to go back to his country to renew his visa...

apnews.com

'My Family Has Been Broken': Pakistanis Fear For Uighur Wives Held In China

Rights groups estimate as many as 1 million Uighurs are detained in Chinese camps, with the aim of stripping away their ethnic identity, suppressing their Muslim faith and ensuring loyalty to China.

www.npr.org

https://twitter.com/x/status/1053271403171102720

Pakistanis distressed as Uighur wives vanish in China dragnet | The Express Tribune

The chinese authorities should at least allow the men to meet their wives and children

tribune.com.pk

Pakistanis in China seek answers about detained Uighur wives

Two Pakistani men went to their embassy in Beijing on Wednesday to lobby for help in reuniting with their wives, who they say are ethnic Uighurs blocked from leaving China, in an example of how a sweeping crackdown has spilled across China's borders.

www.ctvnews.ca

Stop covering up the actions of your government. That's if you are actually a citizen and not a CCCP paid trouble creator.


What is stopping China from allowing free access to several vloggers or independent journalists to prove its case?
You claim there is no proof. There are testimonies of tones of people in the Internet.
What else do you expect to come out of a controlled and subjugated society like yours?
Can anyone say anything freely in China and not disappear?
Should I give you proof and examples for that?

Or should I now trust a representative of the Chinese regime to spread some truth?

US government forbids Muslims entering its territory. China forbid Uyghurs citizens coming to some sensitive countries for the same reason. Why only China got blamed? If Uyghur wives give up their Chinese citizenship, I believe they will be back to Pakistan soon.

 

[casual]

What is stopping China from allowing free access to several vloggers or independent journalists to prove its case?

western media is biased against china. you are free to hire some local chinese vloggers or journalists to investigate.

You claim there is no proof. There are testimonies of tones of people in the Internet.

don't believe everything you see on the internet kid.
considering the CIA's budget to destabilize Xinjiang, forging stuff like this is child play.

What else do you expect to come out of a controlled and subjugated society like yours?

everyone has a smartphone now. there are 12 million uyghurs in xinjiang. if there is real torture and genocide going on, there should be hundreds of images and videos of leaking out. The fact that there are none is proof enough that these are all lies.

Can anyone say anything freely in China and not disappear?

yes, as long as you back your statements with evidence. there are laws against spreading lies with the intention of framing the chinese gov.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Please show me the proof that Chinese government said "volunteer". You started the topic please end it. No need to clarify the training shools. I believe there are skills and language training schools in every country. You can visit one at your home. No difference.

Come on we are supposed to be here quickly debunking "Western lies". Saying "oh it just works like everywhere else" is not a good answer.

Why don't you clarify how these centers work so we can approve/disprove your assertions. If you don't how can we make a judgement?

So nobody tells any Uighurs to go there? They just sign up for these training sessions voluntarily...not required to take them nor required to be there?

Is that your interpretation of how it works?