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“I shall watch with keenness the work of your Research Organisation in evolving banking practices compatible with Islamic ideals of social and economic life. The economic system of the West has created almost insoluble problems for humanity and to many of us it appears that only a miracle can save it from disaster that is now facing the world. It has failed to do justice between man and man and to eradicate friction from the international field. On the contrary, it was largely responsible for the two world wars in the last half century, The Western world, in spite of its advantages of mechanization and industrial efficiency is today in a worse mess than ever before in history. The adoption Western economic theory and practice will not help us in achieving our goal of creating a happy and contented people. We must work our destiny in our own way and present to the world an economic system based on true Islamic concept of equality of manhood and social justice. We will thereby be fulfilling our mission as Muslims and giving to humanity the message of peace which alone can save it and secure the welfare, happiness and prosperity of mankind” ( Muhammad Ali Jinnah; last speech of his life July 1, 1948)

These are words of a dying man who had no doubt about his imminent death. Any suggestion that these “deathbed words” were part of any political campaign by a man who already achieved his gigantic goal of creating a new Muslim nation first time in modern history would be nothing but absurdity. It was just the continuity of a thought by the man, who said, “Come forward as servants of Islam, organise the people economically, socially, educationally and politically and I am sure that you will be a power that will be accepted by everybody”

This is a slap on the face of those educated “liberal fascists” who want to “enforce” their own twisted and self contradictory definitions of secularism in Pakistan by claiming that Jinnah was a “liberal secular” democrat nevertheless they support or advocate for everything undemocratic to force their fake secularism on a Muslim majority state-a contradiction in terms. On the other hands, it is slap on those self proclaimed chosen vicegerents of Allah who want to enforce their own brands of “Sharia Rule” on the pretext that Pakistan was made in the name of Islam hence it has to be a Sharia state under their oligarchic junta. There are others who claim maximum autonomy from for the ethnic groups that they falsely claim to represent on the grounds that this God forsaken country with immense potentials was created because of the fear of majority tyranny so they have a right to establish their little ethnic kingdoms in name of nationalism.

There is only one thing common among all these antithetical little vested interest groups and that is the fact that their leaders opposed and even ridiculed the skinny man with an Iron will by calling his work “mission impossible” during his struggle and by branding him a “British agent” after his miraculous achievement with no substantial evidence to support their baseless rhetoric. Some were in love with the fake notion of “Indian Nationalism” others found Pakistan against their funny interpretation of Sharia that supported “United Hindustan”, a continent made a country or “nation” by its Muslim invaders and consolidated into a colonial state by their British successors for as part of their empire building. Many of these secular educated and religious scholars today give self serving interpretations to his thought to enforce their extremist ideologies on that unfortunate nation and in the process, they have only perpetuated regimes that represented nothing but suppression, exploitation and corruption-a system that is bound to destroy itself along with these champions of Islam on one hand and champions of secular democracy and ethnic nationalism on the other.

“There are many educated people who have ruined their future on account of their ignorance of their religion. Their knowledge did not prove of any avail to them”; “The government of infidelity (kufr) may survive and sustain but the government of suppression and exploitation (zulm) can never survive and sustain” Hazrat Ali KW

No historical political figure is free of controversies but clarity of mind, sincerity of purpose and unbiased knowledge of people and history turn a leader into an epoch. This English speaking articulate Barrister single-handedly defeated his opponents and their hypocrite Hindu “secularist” allies and won the respect and trust of the Urdu, Punjabi, Bengoli, Balochi, Sindhi and Pashtu speaking uneducated and suppressed masses who hardly understood his speeches. Born in a Shia family from Gujrat, he became the first Muslim political leader of modern history who successfully rose above the ethnic and sectarian divides among Muslims and led a Sunni majority nation. He didn’t live long enough to lead his newly created nation state-the first of its kind in history of Muslim civilisation- to establish a political system that could provide an example to the rest of the Muslim world but his thought is a source of inspiration and hope even today for one of the biggest, most multicultural and diversified Muslim nation of today and will remain so for generations to come. His political and ideological opponents among Muslims and those who defied his ideology like Maulana Azad, Bacha Khan and even Sheikh Mujeeb have a lot sacrifices for the constituencies that they represented in terms of imprisonments and even “political martyrdoms” but today one has to do a bit of a research to find their graves and their followers have to portray them as some sorts of underestimated saints or great leaders much ahead of their time hence misunderstood by general masses to prove their greatness. Jinnah on the other hand didn’t spend a single day in jail-something his opponents use as a propaganda-but he still managed to achieve his mission that many termed impossible. My grandfather like many other Pashtun tribesmen was part of the militia of the veteran freedom fighter Haji Saib Turanzai who kept British out of Momand Agency (FATA); he used to quote a Pashtu verse that was popular among Haji Saib’s followers in days of the creation of Pakistan: “Azadi da weenay pa badal da------da kho Jinnah wo che qalam ye zulfiqar sho”. It means, “freedom is only at the cost of the blood; it was only Jinnah for who the pen turned into a sword”

Hazrat Umar RA once said, “Preserve the sayings of those people who are indifferent to the world. They say only that which God wishes them to say”.

Muhammad Ali Jinnah died just over a year after the creation of Pakistan donating all his estates to Islamia College Peshawar, the beloved educational institution of the underdeveloped Khyber Pakhtunkhwa (home of Pathans) and Sindh Madrassatul Islam where he received his primary education. Once the highest earning lawyer of the British India hardly had any savings in his last days and unlike others of that region he didn’t leave any political legacy to avail the luxuries of power in the elitist political societies of that region: no Ghandis, no Haseena Wajids, no Bhuttos and no Asfandiyar Walis. May God Bless his soul.

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M. Arshad Khan.
 
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What's a liberal fascist? Would you care to define this term that you have used?
 
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My brother, I want a secular system in place in Pakistan. However, I also believe that the current Western capitalist system is disastrous and that an Islamic economic system should be in place. What does that make me?
 
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Censoring Jinnah
Nadeem F. Paracha


How the Pakistani state used Orwellian tactics to twist and turn historical events to construct a mythical socio-political narrative is now in the open. Using the media and school textbooks, the state went on a rampage, especially after the loss of the former East Pakistan in 1971. Highly paranoid, xenophobic and aggressive narratives about Pakistan’s ideology, history and society were streamlined that eventually mutated into a warped worldview.

Because of this myopic worldview many Pakistanis see themselves at the centre of the known universe, surrounded by enemies and vicious conspiracies. It suggests that these enemies can only be vanquished through wars or blocked out through self-imposed isolation. To justify such war-mongering and isolationism, various mythical and largely distorted theological concepts have been used, as if it is Islam that insists that Pakistanis continue to live in their permanent state of denial and delusion.

One can rightly blame men like Z. A. Bhutto and more specifically, General Zia, for such a state of affairs. Both of these ironically opposite personalities proudly oversaw the methodical construction of a worldview that was more suited to the whims of fringy cranks, but was made a mainstream narrative. It is true that Bhutto and Zia nourished the growth of militaristic and xenophobic fantasies of mythical glories (of both past and present) in our collective psyches, but those who came before these two weren’t all that truthful either.

Religion has always been a handy tool for the ruling elite to continue justifying its undemocratic and exploitative presence. That’s why the said narrative uses gaudy Islamic symbolism and rhetoric to validate what is actually a glorification of institutions associated with the military, the clergy, the bureaucracy and big businesses. This tool was first used to exercise political control, especially over ‘treacherous’ and ‘unpatriotic’ nationalist forces first in Bengal, and later in Sindh, Balochistan and Khyber Pakhtunkhwa.

Gradually, by the time Zia took over, this became a tool of social control as well. If the ‘One Unit’ and the 1956 Constitution which, without any concrete definition, declared Pakistan an ‘Islamic Republic,’ were political moves to ward off calls for provincial autonomy and democracy, then Zia’s hotchpotch of Islamic laws and the filling of secular social spaces by garish symbols, lingo and related paraphernalia was a social move to remind society of its manufactured theological roots. Zia was only enhancing (with much gusto) an old Pakistani tradition, one of social and political control by using religion.

This tradition’s earliest roots lie in one of the first insistences of Orwellian manipulation of faith and nationalism way back in 1948. The late journalist, Zameer Niazi (in his book Press in Chains), noted that historian Dr Mubarak Ali (in In Search of Pakistan Identity) and Ahmed Ali (in Culture of Pakistan) have discussed this event in detail. Soon after the creation of Pakistan, Jinnah gave his famous speech to the Constituent Assembly in which he insisted that in Pakistan minorities were free to follow their religions whichever way they wanted and that the Pakistani state had nothing to do with religion. This speech did not go down very well with that section of the Muslim League elite which had tasted the power of using religion as a political tool during the Pakistan Movement.

Some of these men would go on to fan the anti-Ahmadiyya riots in Lahore (1953) by using parties like the Jamat-i-Islami and Majlis-i-Ahrar, the two Islamist outfits that had actually opposed the creation of Pakistan. Soon after Jinnah’s speech, an attempt was made by a number of Muslim League leaders (some believe, these also included Liaquat Ali Khan), to censor the draft of the speech that was to be published in the newspapers. It was only when the then editor, Dawn, Altaf Hussain, threatened to take the issue directly to Jinnah that the League leaders relented, and the media was allowed to print the uncensored, now historic speech.

No wonder then, soon after Jinnah’s death in 1948, the League’s top leadership at once departed from the secular contents of Jinnah’s speech and, in fact, flipped it on its head by drafting the 1949 Objectives Resolution that in the future became the basis of Bhutto’s populist Islamic experiments and Zia’s Machiavellian Islamist demagoguery. After that resolution was passed in 1949, some journalists questioned just how the secular contents of Jinnah’s speech could fit in the resolution’s theological proclamations.

Various senior League members responded by suggesting that the speech was an anomaly, delivered at a time when Jinnah was very sick. Were they implying that towards the end Jinnah was losing his mind? The famous Justice Muneer is on record as saying that he overheard some League leaders say that the speech was ‘inspired by the devil.’

In 1970s Z.A. Bhutto claimed that attempts were even made to burn that speech, while in the 1980s Zia used the director of the Quaid-i-Azam Academy to refute the contents of the speech by apologetically suggesting that Jinnah had no idea what an Islamic state meant, and/or if he had known he would not have made those comments
 
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The title of this thread is indeed provocative and I am sure we all appreciate Sparklingway's effort - and we have offered other pieces which can contribute to our discussion, to broaden our thinking about these interesting and vital issues -- the piece above offers a point of view that highlights the State's censorship of the Quaid and the piece below - well, judge for yourself:



Is this Iqbal’s Pakistan?
Faheem Amir



The history of the Pakistan Movement cannot be written without mentioning Allama Iqbal’s meritorious services, which he rendered in the literary, political, philosophical and religious realm to the Muslims of the Subcontinent. Iqbal, through his poetry and prose, not only infused a new spirit of action in the dormant and sluggish body of Indian Muslims but also gave them a vision for an independent Muslim state.

While many functions and programmes were arranged under the auspices of government and private organisations to pay homage to Mufakar-e-Pakistan (Thinker of Pakistan) and Shair-e-Mashriq (Poet of the East), Allama Muhammad Iqbal, on his death anniversary, some intriguing questions come to mind.

What was the dream of Iqbal about the Muslims of India? Does Pakistan reflect the true aspirations of Iqbal? After the mutiny in 1857, the Muslims were caught between Scylla and Charybdis. The British imperial power put the entire blame for the revolt on the Muslims and, on the one hand, developed anti-Muslim policies, which reduced the Muslims to the status of serfs and servants, and on the other, the Hindus were promoted in every walk of life. The Hindus also started anti-Muslim movements like Shuddhi movement launched by the Arya Samaj to check the spread of Islam and promote Hinduism among the people of India. Dr Hunter, member of the civil service, wrote about the pitiable plight of Bengali Muslims in 1872: “A hundred and seventy years ago, it was impossible for a well-born Musalman to become poor; at present it is almost impossible for him to continue rich.”

In these gloomy and hopeless circumstances, the majority of Muslims took refuge in getting and protecting religious teachings. They confined themselves only to mosques and madrassas. They shut their eyes to modern education and thus gave way to the Hindus to perform political, economic and administrative functions under the British Raj.

Iqbal urged the Muslims to shun their reclusive behaviour and follow the true spirit of Islam, which makes education and struggle in every field of life obligatory for every Muslim. In his presidential address at the annual session of the All-India Muslim Conference in Lahore in 1932, Iqbal said: “Politics have their roots in the spiritual life of man. It is my belief that Islam is not a matter of private opinion. It is a society, or if you like, a civic church. It is because present-day political ideals, as they appear to be shaping themselves in India, may affect its original structure and character that I find myself interested in politics.”

Iqbal also writes in his famous book The Reconstruction of Religious Thought in Islam that, “Islam is non-territorial in its character, and its aim is to furnish a model for the final combination of humanity by drawing its adherents from a variety of mutually repellent races, and then transforming this atomic aggregate into a people possessing a self-consciousness of their own.”

To create a model for the final combination of humanity and free the Indian Muslims from economic, political and cultural subjugation, Iqbal spelt out the idea of a separate homeland for Indian Muslims at Allahabad on December 29, 1930. Iqbal’s thoughts electrified the Indian Muslims, and they struggled hard under the matchless leadership of the Quaid-e-Azam to materialise Iqbal’s cherished dream.

In 1940, the great Quaid paid his matchless tribute to Iqbal in these words that if he lived to see the ideal of a Muslim state being achieved and if he were then offered to make a choice between the works of Iqbal and the leadership of the Pakistan state, he would prefer the former.

In 1947, the state of Pakistan was created but the dream of Iqbal’s Pakistan — a state, which gets its inspiration from the egalitarian teachings of Islam — is still unfulfilled. In Iqbal’s view, a political system, which is not based on ethical foundations, would lead to changezi, or tyranny, and in Pakistan we are seeing this changezi in its worst form as our political system is devoid of any ethics. Our corrupt, opportunistic, venal, self-aggrandising and incompetent politicians are blind to the sufferings of the poor and downtrodden people. They are real demagogues who feel no compunction in creating bad blood among the people just for fulfilling their own nefarious designs.

Iqbal had aptly said, “Nations are born in the hearts of poets, they prosper and die in the hands of politicians.” WikiLeaks has exposed that our obsequious and pusillanimous rulers do not feel any hesitation even to bow before American state officers to get power in Pakistan. These insane leaders have put the very sovereignty of our state in jeopardy.

Iqbal berates materialism, slates capitalism and rejects feudalism, while Pakistani society is riddled with these ills. Iqbal urges common people to break their shackles of slavery and revolt against the prevailing cruel systems. He says:

“Arise and awake the poor of my world,


Shake the doors and walls of the mansions of the rich,


Kindle the blood of slaves with the fire of faith,


Give the humble sparrow the strength to fight the falcon!”

Our rulers are fearful that Iqbal’s iconoclastic message can infuse a revolutionary spirit among the youth of Pakistan and they may rise against their cruel rule and corrupt system. So, every effort is made to discourage Iqbal’s teachings among young Pakistanis. Our leaders should pay heed to the message of Alexandre Dumas, a famous French author and dramatist. He said that man can be seen; you can touch him; you can arrest him; you can level charges against him; you can put him behind bars; you can hang him. But you cannot check ideas; the more you try to suppress them, the more they spread.


The writer is a staff member. He can be reached at faheem@dailytimes.com.pk
 
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My brother, I want a secular system in place in Pakistan. However, I also believe that the current Western capitalist system is disastrous and that an Islamic economic system should be in place. What does that make me?

Confused beyond repair.
 
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Confused beyond repair.

there is no restriction on dreaming for something new, had you guys done that, Afghanistan might have been somewhat different from stone age times that it is right now !!!


P.S. he just doesnot have that exact word to express what he means, so using words which different people have different connotations, which is confusing your kind, there is no restriction on dreaming for something new which has no name yet !!
 
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“I shall watch with keenness the work of your Research Organisation in evolving banking practices compatible with Islamic ideals of social and economic life. The economic system of the West has created almost insoluble problems for humanity and to many of us it appears that only a miracle can save it from disaster that is now facing the world. It has failed to do justice between man and man and to eradicate friction from the international field. On the contrary, it was largely responsible for the two world wars in the last half century, The Western world, in spite of its advantages of mechanization and industrial efficiency is today in a worse mess than ever before in history. The adoption Western economic theory and practice will not help us in achieving our goal of creating a happy and contented people. We must work our destiny in our own way and present to the world an economic system based on true Islamic concept of equality of manhood and social justice. We will thereby be fulfilling our mission as Muslims and giving to humanity the message of peace which alone can save it and secure the welfare, happiness and prosperity of mankind” ( Muhammad Ali Jinnah; last speech of his life July 1, 1948)

These are words of a dying man who had no doubt about his imminent death. Any suggestion that these “deathbed words” were part of any political campaign by a man who already achieved his gigantic goal of creating a new Muslim nation first time in modern history would be nothing but absurdity. It was just the continuity of a thought by the man, who said, “Come forward as servants of Islam, organise the people economically, socially, educationally and politically and I am sure that you will be a power that will be accepted by everybody”

This is a slap on the face of those educated “liberal fascists” who want to “enforce” their own twisted and self contradictory definitions of secularism in Pakistan by claiming that Jinnah was a “liberal secular” democrat nevertheless they support or advocate for everything undemocratic to force their fake secularism on a Muslim majority state-a contradiction in terms. On the other hands, it is slap on those self proclaimed chosen vicegerents of Allah who want to enforce their own brands of “Sharia Rule” on the pretext that Pakistan was made in the name of Islam hence it has to be a Sharia state under their oligarchic junta. There are others who claim maximum autonomy from for the ethnic groups that they falsely claim to represent on the grounds that this God forsaken country with immense potentials was created because of the fear of majority tyranny so they have a right to establish their little ethnic kingdoms in name of nationalism.

There is only one thing common among all these antithetical little vested interest groups and that is the fact that their leaders opposed and even ridiculed the skinny man with an Iron will by calling his work “mission impossible” during his struggle and by branding him a “British agent” after his miraculous achievement with no substantial evidence to support their baseless rhetoric. Some were in love with the fake notion of “Indian Nationalism” others found Pakistan against their funny interpretation of Sharia that supported “United Hindustan”, a continent made a country or “nation” by its Muslim invaders and consolidated into a colonial state by their British successors for as part of their empire building. Many of these secular educated and religious scholars today give self serving interpretations to his thought to enforce their extremist ideologies on that unfortunate nation and in the process, they have only perpetuated regimes that represented nothing but suppression, exploitation and corruption-a system that is bound to destroy itself along with these champions of Islam on one hand and champions of secular democracy and ethnic nationalism on the other.

“There are many educated people who have ruined their future on account of their ignorance of their religion. Their knowledge did not prove of any avail to them”; “The government of infidelity (kufr) may survive and sustain but the government of suppression and exploitation (zulm) can never survive and sustain” Hazrat Ali KW

No historical political figure is free of controversies but clarity of mind, sincerity of purpose and unbiased knowledge of people and history turn a leader into an epoch. This English speaking articulate Barrister single-handedly defeated his opponents and their hypocrite Hindu “secularist” allies and won the respect and trust of the Urdu, Punjabi, Bengoli, Balochi, Sindhi and Pashtu speaking uneducated and suppressed masses who hardly understood his speeches. Born in a Shia family from Gujrat, he became the first Muslim political leader of modern history who successfully rose above the ethnic and sectarian divides among Muslims and led a Sunni majority nation. He didn’t live long enough to lead his newly created nation state-the first of its kind in history of Muslim civilisation- to establish a political system that could provide an example to the rest of the Muslim world but his thought is a source of inspiration and hope even today for one of the biggest, most multicultural and diversified Muslim nation of today and will remain so for generations to come. His political and ideological opponents among Muslims and those who defied his ideology like Maulana Azad, Bacha Khan and even Sheikh Mujeeb have a lot sacrifices for the constituencies that they represented in terms of imprisonments and even “political martyrdoms” but today one has to do a bit of a research to find their graves and their followers have to portray them as some sorts of underestimated saints or great leaders much ahead of their time hence misunderstood by general masses to prove their greatness. Jinnah on the other hand didn’t spend a single day in jail-something his opponents use as a propaganda-but he still managed to achieve his mission that many termed impossible. My grandfather like many other Pashtun tribesmen was part of the militia of the veteran freedom fighter Haji Saib Turanzai who kept British out of Momand Agency (FATA); he used to quote a Pashtu verse that was popular among Haji Saib’s followers in days of the creation of Pakistan: “Azadi da weenay pa badal da------da kho Jinnah wo che qalam ye zulfiqar sho”. It means, “freedom is only at the cost of the blood; it was only Jinnah for who the pen turned into a sword”

Hazrat Umar RA once said, “Preserve the sayings of those people who are indifferent to the world. They say only that which God wishes them to say”.

Muhammad Ali Jinnah died just over a year after the creation of Pakistan donating all his estates to Islamia College Peshawar, the beloved educational institution of the underdeveloped Khyber Pakhtunkhwa (home of Pathans) and Sindh Madrassatul Islam where he received his primary education. Once the highest earning lawyer of the British India hardly had any savings in his last days and unlike others of that region he didn’t leave any political legacy to avail the luxuries of power in the elitist political societies of that region: no Ghandis, no Haseena Wajids, no Bhuttos and no Asfandiyar Walis. May God Bless his soul.

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M. Arshad Khan.
Islam is the only solution for Pakistan or other wise GOD forbid anything can happen to Pakistan
 
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My brother, I want a secular system in place in Pakistan. However, I also believe that the current Western capitalist system is disastrous and that an Islamic economic system should be in place. What does that make me?
Sorry Sir either you want Islam or you want kufr their nothing in between and if you want other than Islam than just see where do u land
 
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What's a liberal fascist? Would you care to define this term that you have used?

‘Liberal fascist’ a termed coined by the bigot Hamid Mir for the people who are anti-Mullah, anti Khilafat, anti Salafin/ Tafkfiris, anti-madrasah and anti lashkar, jaish or sepah of any kind and also anti sectarianism.

I am for a progressive and liberal Pakistan. I don’t want to see Pakistan a Sunni Deobandi theocratic state. I am not for secular Pakistan but would like my country to revert to what it was before the Islamization laws were promulgated by ZA Bhutto in 1971. I believe that since 1973 Constitution doesn’t allow any anti-Islamic resolution passed by the NA to become a ‘Law’, there is no need to enforce Sharia on the people of Pakistan. I also believe that all Pakistanis have equal rights regardless of their religion and that Hudood Laws should be repealed and Sharia Courts should be abolished.

Thus by the definition I am ‘Liberal Fascist’.
 
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Plzzzzz dont get me wrong and keep your coll its just a question which i wanted to ask a question did jinnah had any son or daughter or was he married
 
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‘Liberal fascist’ a termed coined by the bigot Hamid Mir for the people who are anti-Mullah, anti Khilafat, anti Salafin/ Tafkfiris, anti-madrasah and anti lashkar, jaish or sepah of any kind and also anti sectarianism.

I am for a progressive and liberal Pakistan. I don’t want to see Pakistan a Sunni Deobandi theocratic state. I am not for secular Pakistan but would like my country to revert to what it was before the Islamization laws were promulgated by ZA Bhutto in 1971. I believe that since 1973 Constitution doesn’t allow any anti-Islamic resolution passed by the NA to become a ‘Law’, there is no need to enforce Sharia on the people of Pakistan. I also believe that all Pakistanis have equal rights regardless of their religion and that Hudood Laws should be repealed and Sharia Courts should be abolished.

Thus by the definition I am ‘Liberal Fascist’.

and liberal fasicts also use the word 'bigot and jehadist, mullah, madressah, 72 virgins terrorism, all hail musharraf' quite often

Plzzzzz dont get me wrong and keep your coll its just a question which i wanted to ask did jinha had any son or daughter or was he married

its jinnah not jinha
 
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