A French General's open letter to Francois Hollande

[rockstar08]

Well,i used to write letters to my politicians asking them to raise budget for the Army and proposing national plans for offsets so that they can bring money in while modernising the Armed Forces.Ofcourse,they probably considered me a nobody and never bothered to respond.So,i guess open letters are better,they will not respond but at least the people will see their inactivity and judge them

aww, sorry to hear that you were ignored ...

@flamer84

funny but harsh reality

 

[flamer84]

aww, sorry to hear that you were ignored ...

aww, sorry to hear that you were ignored ...



funny but harsh reality

On 7 occasions ......I gave up in the end,as i understood for what "the elites" of my country stand for .In the end i have a life of my own to live for and i can't go on battling about problems which seem that most ignore.

The harsher reality is that people will float to the extreme if they are ignored forever,and then the same politicians will act surprised.

 

[rockstar08]

On 7 occasions ......I gave up in the end,as i understood for what "the elites" of my country stand for .In the end i have a life of my own to live for and i can't go on battling about problems which seem that most ignore.

The harsher reality is that people will float to the extreme if they are ignored forever,and then the same politicians will act surprised.

than i guess your country is same as mine .....

 

[Armstrong]

Did they ask you @Gabriel92? Everything was done above our heads from immigration to legalising homosexual marriages and they told us "shhhh,it's fine,this is Europe and modernity"....well,I beg to disagree.

Oh come on @Gabriel92 what have you people against gays ?

On my part - Men who love Men !

Women who love Women !

With me in between !

 

[The Silent One]

How can we solve it ? Even if it can be solved with the current generation,bringing even more immigrants is not a solution.The flow has to be stopped eventually,this is not a land of infinite resources and in in the end the natives wishes have to be considered.

Yes,illegal immigration can be adressed to,you only need a militarised frontier and guts.It's harsh,but times are getting desperate.

According to this Article, 40,000 Immigrants came to france in 2013:
english.rfi.fr/france/
20140114-frances-population-rises-280000-2013

^ sorry for ruining the link but the forum won't let me post it normally.
Now to the point:

Immigration is allowed by Europeans due to Population growth, Romania does not need Immigration, but Germany does.
Germany has a fertility rate of 1.43, and the White German population is decreasing, so Immigrants are needed to allow the Economy to continue running.

How do we solve the problems arising from Immigration?
Acceptance is the first step.

This is true story from my life. Every time i tell a French person i'm American. they immediately ask me for my origin, at first i told them "moroccan" but then i realized my mistake. They stopped accepting me as American and only referred to me as "Arab" or "North African". I asked a French friend to explain it to me a little better, he summed it up pretty nicely: "Americans are white."

Imagine how a 2nd or 3rd Generation Moroccan feels after being told they aren't a Real Frenchman because they're not white?
It's like me saying You can't be romanian because your hair color is wrong. Now fortunately, i have a the US to call home, and if things get too rough in France i can always leave. But Arabs/Muslims in France don't have that privilege.

 

[Gabriel92]

Oh come on @Gabriel92 what have you people against gays ?

On my part - Men who love Men !

Women who love Women !

With me in between !

Lol,i'm against the fags and proud of it,it is destroying humanity seriously,how can someone tolerate it ?

 

[flamer84]

According to this Article, 40,000 Immigrants came to france in 2013:
english.rfi.fr/france/
20140114-frances-population-rises-280000-2013

^ sorry for ruining the link but the forum won't let me post it normally.
Now to the point:

Immigration is allowed by Europeans due to Population growth, Romania does not need Immigration, but Germany does.
Germany has a fertility rate of 1.43, and the White German population is decreasing, so Immigrants are needed to allow the Economy to continue running.

How do we solve the problems arising from Immigration?
Acceptance is the first step.

This is true story from my life. Every time i tell a French person i'm American. they immediately ask me for my origin, at first i told them "moroccan" but then i realized my mistake. They stopped accepting me as American and only referred to me as "Arab" or "North African". I asked a French friend to explain it to me a little better, he summed it up pretty nicely: "Americans are white."

Imagine how a 2nd or 3rd Generation Moroccan feels after being told they aren't a Real Frenchman because they're not white?
It's like me saying You can't be romanian because your hair color is wrong. Now fortunately, i have a the US to call home, and if things get too rough in France i can always leave. But Arabs/Muslims in France don't have that privilege.

I can relate.My brother is working in Italy and he's worried of saying he's a Romanian because he'll be called a gypsie or a thief.Me,altough i had the occasion of working in Western Europe i didn't take it because,i admit it ,i'm nationalistic and consider that however the bread is in poor taste,that taste is better in your country and i believe you should fight it out in here instead of leaving.Plus,i'd punch anyone in the face for calling me a gypsie.

Now,Romania does have the same problem as Western Europe/Germany when it comes to fertility rates,a problem which is made worse by millions of our citizens leaving for the West in search of better jobs.That being said this problem should be adressed by diverting the money from housing immigrants or from welfare to families which are willing to raise more children but i've never seen such a program in Europe.If push comes to shove,abortions for people over 18 should be banned to.There are solutions,unfortunately they're taking the worst one:immigration.

 

[Armstrong]

Lol,i'm against the fags and proud of it,it is destroying humanity seriously,how can someone tolerate it ?

I don't like it either but then again its not much of an issue in my country so I haven't really gotten around to formulating an opinion on it ! Though I'm rather fond of that age old maxim 'live and let live' so its alright because whatever a person does in the privacy of his room is none of my business anyhow.

 

[The Silent One]

I can relate.My brother is working in Italy and he's worried of saying he's a Romanian because he'll be called a gypsie or a thief.Me,altough i had the occasion of working in Western Europe i didn't take it because,i admit it ,i'm nationalistic and consider that however the bread is in poor taste,that taste is better in your country and i believe you should fight it out in here instead of leaving.Plus,i'd punch anyone in the face for calling me a gypsie.

Now,Romania does have the same problem as Western Europe/Germany when it comes to fertility rates,a problem which is made worse by millions of our citizens leaving for the West in search of better jobs.That being said this problem should be adressed by diverting the money from housing immigrants or from welfare to families which are willing to raise more children but i've never seen such a program in Europe.If push comes to shove,abortions for people over 18 should be banned to.There are solutions,unfortunately they're taking the worst one:immigration.

And thus the better question is asked. "how can we reverse white european population decline?" . I used Germany as an Example because the German population is decreasing while the Turkish Population is stable around it's number.

Therefore the Turks grow in percentage without growing in population. This however is a German issue and doesn't affect France where the White French population has a fertility rate of 2.01 and continues to grow. On average 642,000 White French babies are born every year, in comparison there are 40,000-60,000 Immigrants, of which only half are muslims. France is not being invaded by Muslims.

I respect your idea of bread being better in your country than elsewhere, but People always prefer to gain something, hence why Immigration exists. Whether Arabs like it or not, Europe is wealthier and has a better standard of living. Of course the vast majority of Religious muslims stay away, but more Moderate/Secular Muslims tend to immigrate (example: Morocco has a thriving Alcohol industry, i'll let that sink in for a minute. An Arab Muslim nation has a thriving Alcohol industry. which is why around 3-4 million Moroccans live in Europe.)

 

[flamer84]

And thus the better question is asked. "how can we reverse white european population decline?" . I used Germany as an Example because the German population is decreasing while the Turkish Population is stable around it's number.

Therefore the Turks grow in percentage without growing in population. This however is a German issue and doesn't affect France where the White French population has a fertility rate of 2.01 and continues to grow. On average 642,000 White French babies are born every year, in comparison there are 40,000-60,000 Immigrants, of which only half are muslims. France is not being invaded by Muslims.

I respect your idea of bread being better in your country than elsewhere, but People always prefer to gain something, hence why Immigration exists. Whether Arabs like it or not, Europe is wealthier and has a better standard of living. Of course the vast majority of Religious muslims stay away, but more Moderate/Secular Muslims tend to immigrate (example: Morocco has a thriving Alcohol industry, i'll let that sink in for a minute. An Arab Muslim nation has a thriving Alcohol industry. which is why around 3-4 million Moroccans live in Europe.)

Drastically cutting immigration would be a first good step in spurring people into action regarding tackling the fertility problem.You see,when you're abandoning the quick solution,you'll be forced to concentrate on the long term one.

 

[The Silent One]

Drastically cutting immigration would be a first good step in spurring people into action regarding tackling the fertility problem.You see,when you're abandoning the quick solution,you'll be forced to concentrate on the long term one.

You can never force people to have children

 

[flamer84]

You can never force people to have children

Ofcourse not,but i know plenty of people who can't have many children because the state doesn't help with their education,clothing,etc.A financial help with this and they would have more than 1 or 2.Including me in here.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

just stop immigration

That's a reasonable demand. Albeit slightly paranoid. But acceptable. After all, it's your country.

 

[Schutz]

We whites dont need to grow in population, same with Japanese (although they do need to do a little bit more of the old unprotected sex) and a few other nations, we have found the best mixture of population and stable good living, go back a few generations and everybody had 5-6-7 kids and life was far worse. 80% of the rest of the world which still lives by ancient books and procreates according to them needs to slow the **** down, humanity cant swell so soon.

As for immigrants, far to many, the few times I have visited a hospital/doctors in the past few years (visiting there not a patient) most wards seem to have a 20%+ of immigrants/descendants in beds, fine by me if your born here or have worked here for some years and contribute, not so fine when your a fucking gypsy or a Somalian who barely speaks a word of English and has a litter the same number as a dog who we have to pay for. Obviously there is alot of immigrants working in healthcare, although it really wouldnt be hard to replace them with a quick recruitment drive among young people offering them decent salaried jobs and free education as long as they choose to study as nurses etc but thats not what anyone wants so I never understand that side of the argument, nobody wants to replace skilled workers so it wouldnt ever be an issue.

And I know its mostly bullshit when people say immigrants are a net drain on the economy, they probably contribute but studies are often flawed in stupid ways such as immigrants after 2000 are not a drain on the economy, never stipulates where they come from. With immigration I think you need quotas and as long as skilled professions are filled then you take no more unless they are "emergency" refugees from wartorn countries then you judge each case individually with no total quotas as being human is the important issue. Certain exemptions, gypsies etc, as anyone who has encountered them will agree, your not coming in under any circumstance, your a people of thieves and accordion players who have never in history made an attempt to even get a real job and the only motivation for you to exist is to benefit from other peoples work.

 

[Yousafzai_M]

@flamer

You should move to Israel, I am sure your views on immigration (and your quality to hide your hatred behind argument) would be more than welcome there. After all, a Moldovan doorman rose to become an important minster there for his views, similar to yours.

We do not descend to the level of personal attacks !

Its not a personal attack bro, at least not an intentional one. Eastern Europeans speaking for Europe sound like our own enthusiasts speaking for 'Ummah'.