A Decade of Trying and Yuan Trading Has Barely Scratched Dollar

[KAL-EL]

How capable the carriers and other surrounding ships shoot down DF21, DF26? or even LARSM from H-6?

You’re right, the US should surrender immediately, because it has a very primitive military.

 

[antonius123]

You’re right, the US should surrender immediately, because it has a very primitive military.

If an SM-3 can hit a mid-course ICBM, it should be able hit a mid-course DF-26, too.
But there are reasons to be skeptical of America's mid-course missile-interception capability. SM-3s have missed their targets in nine of 42 tests since 2002. Not all of the tests were realistic or involved midcourse targets.
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/b...r-killer-missile-should-navy-be-worried-42827

That is talking about intercepting single DF-26. Now imagine on how to intercepting rain of hundreds DF-26s...

 

[AViet]

Go ahead, take on the US navey.
Seriously
They have 11 aircraft carriers alone.
The next biggest navy had 2-3 (depending on how you count them).
Now if your add up every countries aircraft carrier it is about or less then 11 (to lazy to look up actual numbers right now)

I take no pleasure in saying this but truth is truth. The US Navy can take on and defeat every navy on Earth combined.

Do you know how many aircraft carrier and warships the US used in Vietnam war? We had only some primitive canoes and gunboats at that time.

Even so, the US navy still could not control the Beibu gulf to prevent Soviet and Chinese ships to enter Haiphong port.

Your claim is exaggerated. It is like "Vietnam air defense system can defeat all the world air force combined".

 

[Rusty]

Do you know how many aircraft carrier and warships the US used in Vietnam war? We had only some primitive canoes and gunboats at that time.

Even so, the US navy still could not control the Beibu gulf to prevent Soviet and Chinese ships to board Haiphong port.

Your claim is exaggerated. It is like "Vietnam air defense system can defeat all the world air force combined".

Please stop.
This is embarrassing for your.

I will just restate what I originally said.

-the US Navy is stronger then the rest of the world's navies combined.

Now you can take about Vietnam, Korea, or Mordor all you want but at the end of the day what I said is true and will stay true for a while.

And again, I take no pleasure is this as I consider the US an evil empire. But I'm smart enough to acknowledge the truth.

 

[AViet]

Please stop.
This is embarrassing for your.

I will just restate what I originally said.

-the US Navy is stronger then the rest of the world's navies combined.

Now you can take about Vietnam, Korea, or Mordor all you want but at the end of the day what I said is true and will stay true for a while.

And again, I take no pleasure is this as I consider the US an evil empire. But I'm smart enough to acknowledge the truth.

In short:
Stronger: may be, quantitatively but not qualitatively. therefore, it is subject to own opinions
Can defeat Russia or China navy on international water: I doubt.

 

[925boy]

Please stop.
This is embarrassing for your.

I will just restate what I originally said.

-the US Navy is stronger then the rest of the world's navies combined.

Now you can take about Vietnam, Korea, or Mordor all you want but at the end of the day what I said is true and will stay true for a while.

And again, I take no pleasure is this as I consider the US an evil empire. But I'm smart enough to acknowledge the truth.

LMAO. i can tell you dont understand the modern military reality the world is in now.

America's problem is that its military cant achieve what it used to before. If America's navy is SO mightly, then why was US afraid to send Abraham Lincoln via the Persian gulf recently due to Iran's tensions? Another example is the taiwan straight- the US hasnt sailed a boat through it for at least 11 years. We know the US military is realistically not as able as its equipment because if it was able, why is "sanctions" America's preferred and only method of dealing with mid level /regional powers these days? i mean, if this was year 2000, US ACs would just show up and start pounding those countries, but we dont see that anymore. US also doesnt have money for a war. SOme of you keep focusing on China's currency controls but have ignored the fact that the US cant pay its 21$T debt,so to me they both have "big" challenges that sort of even themselves out imo. i hope you and the other "US NAVY has 3000 carriers" gang members realize that US military is currently both demoralized and simple unable to start wars and end them easily. I am 100% confident that US beats China, ON PAPER, but reality is very different and often unpredictable relative to theories.

Finally, CHina doesnt need the yuan to be the world currency in order to dominate the world, China just has to have a ton of $$$$ on hand and control trade with most world countries. If America is doing so well and really so strong then why is the country so frustrated and unstable? if you have done have good answers then you surely dont actually understand the realities going on today.

 

[Mista]

Another example is the taiwan straight- the US hasnt sailed a boat through it for at least 11 years.

US warship sails through Taiwan Strait in ‘routine’ operation

• Operation weeks before Taiwan presidential election likely to be seen as provocative by Beijing
• Washington has upped the frequency of its transits, which Taipei welcomes as a sign of growing support

...

This was at least the ninth passage by US naval vessels through the Taiwan Strait this year, most recently with the warship USS Antietam in late September.

https://scmp.com/news/china/militar...sails-through-taiwan-strait-routine-operation

if you have done have good answers then you surely dont actually understand the realities going on today.

^

 

[925boy]

US warship sails through Taiwan Strait in ‘routine’ operation

• Operation weeks before Taiwan presidential election likely to be seen as provocative by Beijing
• Washington has upped the frequency of its transits, which Taipei welcomes as a sign of growing support

...

This was at least the ninth passage by US naval vessels through the Taiwan Strait this year, most recently with the warship USS Antietam in late September.

https://scmp.com/news/china/militar...sails-through-taiwan-strait-routine-operation



^

Ok you're right the US has sailed naval vessels thru the taiwan strait, but i believe the article i read said the US hasnt sailed an aircraft carrier via the strait in 11 years. Maybe 1 sailed this year due to extra high tensions and risks(PLAN ramming US boats for ex) but its been a while since an AC sailed thru it.

 

[Rasengan]

Go ahead, take on the US navey.
Seriously
They have 11 aircraft carriers alone.
The next biggest navy had 2-3 (depending on how you count them).
Now if your add up every countries aircraft carrier it is about or less then 11 (to lazy to look up actual numbers right now)

I take no pleasure in saying this but truth is truth. The US Navy can take on and defeat every navy on Earth combined.

People have to be realistic. As a military power, America is the undisputed king when it comes to conventional warfare and its navy is a beast.

 

[KungFuLee]

Finally, CHina doesnt need the yuan to be the world currency in order to dominate the world, China just has to have a ton of $$$$ on hand and control trade with most world countries. If America is doing so well and really so strong then why is the country so frustrated and unstable? if you have done have good answers then you surely dont actually understand the realities going on today.

As I said I am not an expert on military, so I am going to skip which nay is better. That, I think is quite subjective, because you need to know both capability in and out to carry out an objective assessment, but as we all know, no one can know both side in and out so it's impossible to have an objective conclusion on the issue.

But I do know something about finance. And I know enough to know that you cannot control trade if you cannot control the currency. Even if you dominate trade, unless you are asking the country you trade with also uses RMB in their own country. You would need to exchange it somewhere down the line. And when you do, you will need to have US Dollar involved, that's because this is the world backing currency.

Currency trading is the number one trade in the world. And at this point, USD occupied around 70% of world currency, so by this definition, they would have the biggest share of currency trade in the world.

So yes, if China want to dominate the world financially, they will need to dethrone USD from the world dominate currency.

 

[925boy]

People have to be realistic. As a military power, America is the undisputed king when it comes to conventional warfare and its navy is a beast.

BUt doese AMerica HAVE the willpower to fight COSTLY wars we cant fund and sustain big losses without meeting objectives quickly? Remember, US govt only has hard nuts to crack- Russia, CHina, Iran and North Korea. All i'm saying is show me that US is actualy able,ready and willing to use its actual military power against competent foes. i havent seen any evidence of that recently. Why you think EU's Macron is asking for an EU army? only one reason- EU isnt sure anymore than US's military support is reliable. South Korea's recent behaviour shows it feels that same way and Japan maybe too. The world has already changed, and some of you are still in denial.

finally- TRump is very afraid of war, thats why he hasnt taken on any "rogue" countries militarily, even when they've done provokative things. If US cant militarily check Iran for ex in the ME, that means Iran is already king of the middle east. no lie detected..

 

[925boy]

People have to be realistic. As a military power, America is the undisputed king when it comes to conventional warfare and its navy is a beast.

Every King has to prove his power though so everyone knows the king is still competent, able and stable.

 

[Rasengan]

BUt doese AMerica HAVE the willpower to fight COSTLY wars we cant fund and sustain big losses without meeting objectives quickly? Remember, US govt only has hard nuts to crack- Russia, CHina, Iran and North Korea. All i'm saying is show me that US is actualy able,ready and willing to use its actual military power against competent foes. i havent seen any evidence of that recently. Why you think EU's Macron is asking for an EU army? only one reason- EU isnt sure anymore than US's military support is reliable. South Korea's recent behaviour shows it feels that same way and Japan maybe too. The world has already changed, and some of you are still in denial.

finally- TRump is very afraid of war, thats why he hasnt taken on any "rogue" countries militarily, even when they've done provokative things. If US cant militarily check Iran for ex in the ME, that means Iran is already king of the middle east. no lie detected..

America's track record suggests they do have the political will to fight costly wars. Whether they are successful in meeting their objective is another ball game. The US-led system, set after the second world war, is based on military alliances, strategic partnerships, and close defense ties with friendly nations ensuring their dominance in the region by sea and air. I personally don't believe this status quo will change in the short or medium-term (20-40 years). The United States hasn't fought a competent foe but it doesn't need to due to the might of its economic power and soft image projected across the globe. A European Union army won't be possible there is too much fragmentation in Europe and the financing won't be there. The world is changing but such radical reforms don't happen overnight it takes time. Iran will be checked by the US as the real king of the Middle East is Israel.

 

[Haris Ali2140]

Every King has to prove his power though so everyone knows the king is still competent, able and stable.

In a war for survival US can beat both China and Russia singlehandedly. But that's for survival. The reason why US is hesitating to attack Iran is because Iran can inflict a lot of damage on US. A single aircraft carrier costing $20 billion can be brought down by cheap missiles.

US is still unmatched but the coat for war has risen significantly that they couldn't even continue is Syria.
@Rasengan

 

[Rasengan]

In a war for survival US can beat both China and Russia singlehandedly. But that's for survival. The reason why US is hesitating to attack Iran is because Iran can inflict a lot of damage on US. A single aircraft carrier costing $20 billion can be brought down by cheap missiles.

US is still unmatched but the coat for war has risen significantly that they couldn't even continue is Syria.
@Rasengan

The cost of war has certainly risen significantly but the deep state in the United States wasn't willing to leave. The decision was taken by President Trump. The Republican establishment was also not happy with the decision and I wouldn't be surprised in the next election Trump would be defeated. Nonetheless, the real kingpin of the Middle East (Israel) has achieved its goal. There is no longer any credible threat from any of the Arab States.