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A commission Should be made to probe who brought Imran to power: Fazlul Rahman

Each alliance comes packaged with a head honcho who has his own ego and demands his pound of flesh. If Imran Khan has the numbers, it is best to go it alone and not be held hostage to anyone else.

It depends on the party. Today IK needs allies, he realised he cannot do it alone, before he thought establishment was behind him and he's untouchable. He has already signed agreements with SIC and MWM, PAT refused to cooperate with PTI due to IK abandoning them when in power.

These smaller parties want independent Pakistan first policy. They will never accept chamcha Usa government.

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A commission should be formed who born this cursed hell dog diesel.his birth is curse for pakistan
 
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P.S. Even within the party there can be problems. Many of us knew JTK and Aun Chowdhary to be snakes long before they were exposed. What is a sugar mafia industrialist doing in a revolutionary party in the first place? By the same token, where does a wadera like SMQ fit into Naya Pakistan anyway?

I agree. IK made mistakes by allowing these waderas and sugar mafias in to his revolutionary party but after loosing many elections PTI realised they will not be in power without the electables. With the electables they got the power but couldn't make a change. What a sad state of affairs. Majority Pakistanis vote for the local big timers and haven't got a clue about revolution, change etc. What is the solution. IK wants to go to elections and we all know they will be rigged, so what makes IK confident that he will win? Are we going to be wasting another 5 years screaming elections were rigged? Its so much frustration.
 
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I agree. IK made mistakes by allowing these waderas and sugar mafias in to his revolutionary party but after loosing many elections PTI realised they will not be in power without the electables. With the electables they got the power but couldn't make a change. What a sad state of affairs. Majority Pakistanis vote for the local big timers and haven't got a clue about revolution, change etc. What is the solution. IK wants to go to elections and we all know they will be rigged, so what makes IK confident that he will win? Are we going to be wasting another 5 years screaming elections were rigged? Its so much frustration.

What's worse is that the West wants to keep us down. They know exactly how the elections are rigged but they will continue to support this sham democracy as long as their stooges are in charge. Add in the lifafa media within Pakistan and the control is complete.

Sometimes, I think we need a benevolent dictator to completely overhaul Pakistan, but benevolent dictators are hard to come by. Transforming a country need not take long under the right leadership if they have complete control.

The world is full of examples where countries were transformed in the blink of an eye. Singapore went from a sleepy village into a developed country within a single generation. China has been transformed within three decades. Japan and Germany went from a demolished state after world war to become top global economies within twenty years.
 
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What's worse is that the West wants to keep us down. They know exactly how the elections are rigged but they will continue to support this sham democracy as long as their stooges are in charge. Add in the lifafa media within Pakistan and the control is complete.

Sometimes, I think we need a benevolent dictator to completely overhaul Pakistan, but benevolent dictators are hard to come by. Transforming a country need not take long under the right leadership if they have complete control.

The world is full of examples where countries were transformed in the blink of an eye. Singapore went from a sleepy village into a developed country within a single generation. China has been transformed within three decades. Japan and Germany went from a demolished state after world war to become top global economies within twenty years.

It all depends on what the people want. If 90% of the public is hard working, corruption free and want to progress then who are the neutrals/Usa to stop us. Studying deep in to the society will make you come to an conclusion that you are ruled by what you are. Where will the clean leadership come from? The clean neutrals? Police? Judges? doctors?businessmen? My last visit to Pakistan, I was told you don't understand Pakistan, only money makes things run here, without money your nothing, this is why everyone is after money, and through bribery, lies, deception they get to the top.
 
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If the Paks can't kill these bastards then they deserve to be ruled by these bastards.....

By the by, the misfortune of a nation is directly proportional to the Haram money circulating. Unfortunately, Pak has got too many Harami civil/military bureaucrats, judges, political leaders, businessmen etc. with too much Haram money....
 
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It all depends on what the people want. If 90% of the public is hard working, corruption free and want to progress then who are the neutrals/Usa to stop us. Studying deep in to the society will make you come to an conclusion that you are ruled by what you are. Where will the clean leadership come from? The clean neutrals? Police? Judges? doctors?businessmen? My last visit to Pakistan, I was told you don't understand Pakistan, only money makes things run here, without money your nothing, this is why everyone is after money, and through bribery, lies, deception they get to the top.

You are absolutely right about the corruption throughout society but that, too, can be changed and is formed by what people see at the top. When they see the corrupt elite escaping justice and being celebrated by the lifafa media, it sends a message. When they see the justice system itself is corrupt, it sends a message throughout society.

The feeling in Pakistani society is that honesty is a mark of naivety, that doing an honest day's work for a day's pay is only for fools who are too stupid to game the system. Why should a small businessman be honest and pay tax when the mafia industrialists get billions in subsidies and are paraded as heroes by the lifafa media?

By contrast, if people see justice being served fairly and quickly, it also sends a message and shapes societal attitudes.

Personally, I put the lifafa media (with a few rare exceptions) as the number one villain in Pakistan, even above the establishment. If the media was fair and showed the corruption and wrongdoing by all parties, including the establishment, it would change people's attitudes towards corruption. If the media asked tough questions why the main parties promote ethnicity-based divisive thinking, it would make people question the parties' tactics and motives.

In Pakistan, we have lifafa media that promotes the Sharifs as capable administrators and misunderstood, honest civil servants. It describes mafia industrialists like JTK and others as victims. The lifafa media dutifully refers to Bilawal Zardari as Bilawal Bhutto and calls the PPPP the party of democracy and merit while the whole party bows to the boy king with zero qualifications appointed Chairman by his daddy.
 
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What a disgusting pile of shit that man is only lanat is written on his face, only God knows how many bacha ki bund mar kar batha.
 
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You are absolutely right about the corruption throughout society but that, too, can be changed and is formed by what people see at the top. When they see the corrupt elite escaping justice and being celebrated by the lifafa media, it sends a message. When they see the justice system itself is corrupt, it sends a message throughout society.

The feeling in Pakistani society is that honesty is a mark of naivety, that doing an honest day's work for a day's pay is only for fools who are too stupid to game the system. Why should a small businessman be honest and pay tax when the mafia industrialists get billions in subsidies and are paraded as heroes by the lifafa media?

By contrast, if people see justice being served fairly and quickly, it also sends a message and shapes societal attitudes.

Personally, I put the lifafa media (with a few rare exceptions) as the number one villain in Pakistan, even above the establishment. If the media was fair and showed the corruption and wrongdoing by all parties, including the establishment, it would change people's attitudes towards corruption. If the media asked tough questions why the main parties promote ethnicity-based divisive thinking, it would make people question the parties' tactics and motives.

In Pakistan, we have lifafa media that promotes the Sharifs as capable administrators and misunderstood, honest civil servants. It describes mafia industrialists like JTK and others as victims. The lifafa media dutifully refers to Bilawal Zardari as Bilawal Bhutto and calls the PPPP the party of democracy and merit while the whole party bows to the boy king with zero qualifications appointed Chairman by his daddy.

Good points. In my village, people think your naive and stupid if you talk about honesty and are against bribery. This is because noone will help you without bribery or safarish from the local politician. You will only realise this if you had a land dispute or had a fight, you will be trusting the police whilst the police, lawyers, judges will be receiving lakhs from your rivals and before you know it you will be in jail, even if your innocent. This is when you will cry to the local corrupt politician to help you.

The question is how to get out of this evil corrupt system, how to get rid of these corrupt rulers and how to change the society so there is rule and law, where people work hard and pay taxes, where police will investigate with honesty, lawyers will make sure they'll protect you and judges will do justice. Its not really difficult but people have accepted this as a reality so it stays the same.

Injustice happens all over the world but we have a very high percentage and all institutes are corrupt.
 
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