A brilliant half an hour long interview summing up India.

[cocomo]

This guy (Aakar Patel) lays waste to India's democracy, judiciary, secularism. He also sums up shallow Ideology of Hindutva in a few sentences. I really was shocked that so called biggest democracy doesn't have freedom of religion, you need Government's consent to change religions. One of the primary promoters of Islamophobia in India are its banana courts... A lot of other revelations in a short time.

 

[Chakar The Great]

Reality of India.

 

[Cherub786]

Reality of India.

Sadly Pakistan is no better, if not worse

 

[Mirzali Khan]

Sadly Pakistan is no better, if not worse

Lower caste Hindus are more free in Pakistan than India.

 

[Cherub786]

Lower caste Hindus are more free in Pakistan than India.

You mean Chuhras? Yes, they're free to work in the sewers perpetually.
Admit it, Pakistan and India have the same social problems. Caste and religion based discrimination. Corruption and police brutality. Pakistan has no face to criticize India for ill treatment of Muslims, Dalits and others when in Pakistan Ahmadis and Christians are also mistreated and discriminated against. If India has laws against conversion, Pakistan has blasphemy laws. Pakistan needs to get its act together. Pakistan must reconcile with America and the West. Pakistan must seriously implement full human rights like in the West.

 

[Mirzali Khan]

You mean Chuhras? Yes, they're free to work in the sewers perpetually.
Admit it, Pakistan and India have the same social problems. Caste and religion based discrimination. Corruption and police brutality. Pakistan has no face to criticize India for ill treatment of Muslims, Dalits and others when in Pakistan Ahmadis and Christians are also mistreated and discriminated against. If India has laws against conversion, Pakistan has blasphemy laws. Pakistan needs to get its act together. Pakistan must reconcile with America and the West. Pakistan must seriously implement full human rights like in the West.

Ok so its clear you have no idea what you are talking about. Dalits and lower caste Hindus are routinely beaten and killed for going to the wrong temple or even touching/going near someone's food. Pakistan does not have that. Therefore, lower caste hindus are more free in Pakisan than India.

Ahmadis and Christians are perfectly fine in Pakistan, they can practice their religion openly. Pakistan just had a huge Christmas celebration and Hindus celebrate Diwali openly routinely.

Pakistan doesn't need to reconcile with the "West". In the "West" there's a schism between family values and regressive progressivism. The type where adults give hormone blockers to children.

 

[peagle]

Sadly Pakistan is no better, if not worse

You need to get a life, you are obsessively full of hatred for Pakistan,
lies and falsehoods mean nothing to you.

If you can, open a private conversation with me, and lets have a proper discussion.

 

[Cherub786]

You need to get a life, you are obsessively full of hatred for Pakistan,
lies and falsehoods mean nothing to you.

If you can, open a private conversation with me, and lets have a proper discussion.

Why can't we have a proper discussion here?

Ahmadis and Christians are perfectly fine in Pakistan, they can practice their religion openly.

No they can't, especially not Ahmadis. According to 298-B and 298-C of PPC, Ahmadis are not allowed to preach or practice their religion, or they face 3 years rigorous imprisonment.

Read about a Christian named Zafar Bhatti who has been imprisoned since 2012 on false charge of blasphemy without a shred of evidence. The court decided to sentence him to life imprisonment instead of death because of the lack of evidence, rather than simply release him. That's Pakistani justice for you!

ZAFAR BHATTI – Church In Chains – Ireland :: An Irish voice for suffering, persecuted Christians Worldwide

 

[Mirzali Khan]

Why can't we have a proper discussion here?


No they can't, especially not Ahmadis. According to 298-B and 298-C of PPC, Ahmadis are not allowed to preach or practice their religion, or they face 3 years rigorous imprisonment.

Read about a Christian named Zafar Bhatti who has been imprisoned since 2012 on false charge of blasphemy without a shred of evidence. The court decided to sentence him to life imprisonment instead of death because of the lack of evidence, rather than simply release him. That's Pakistani justice for you!

ZAFAR BHATTI – Church In Chains – Ireland :: An Irish voice for suffering, persecuted Christians Worldwide

No one is "oppressed" in Pakistan

 

[peagle]

Why can't we have a proper discussion here?


No they can't, especially not Ahmadis. According to 298-B and 298-C of PPC, Ahmadis are not allowed to preach or practice their religion, or they face 3 years rigorous imprisonment.

Read about a Christian named Zafar Bhatti who has been imprisoned since 2012 on false charge of blasphemy without a shred of evidence. The court decided to sentence him to life imprisonment instead of death because of the lack of evidence, rather than simply release him. That's Pakistani justice for you!

ZAFAR BHATTI – Church In Chains – Ireland :: An Irish voice for suffering, persecuted Christians Worldwide

Because you go into your fantasies,
and, you apply double standards,
and, you make up your own logic,
and, you create falsehoods and lies, that I prefer not to spread.

It seems you want to fight hate, but hate has eaten you to your core, I want to understand why that is, because it is sad.

Here, I think you are putting on a face for sake of an audience, you are an actor, actors cannot be trusted. You dont need a stage, you need a couch.

Thats why not here, but in a private conversation.

 

[Cherub786]

Here, I think you are putting on a face for sake of an audience, you are an actor, actors cannot be trusted. You dont need a stage, you need a couch.

Thats why not here, but in a private conversation.

I see, you want a private conversation because a public one will be shut down real fast on PDF. We all know you have to walk on eggshells here to avoid a lengthy ban. Sadly, that's the typical Pakistani mentality, they would rather silence and censor than face the music:

 

[xeuss]

I like Aakar Patel. One of the few sane voices left in India.

I was first introduced to him when I read this article of his:

Why Indians don’t give back to society

Why Indians don’t give back to society

www.livemint.com

 

[peagle]

I see, you want a private conversation because a public one will be shut down real fast on PDF. We all know you have to walk on eggshells here to avoid a lengthy ban. Sadly, that's the typical Pakistani mentality, they would rather silence and censor than face the music:

There you go again, going into your fantasies.
If it was the case of bans, you should have been banned long ago, spreading so much hate and freedom to spread lies. You live an online life, I feel sorry for you.

That’s the foreign office and its staff you idiot,
Every major government official has their dealings organised by the civil servants, they are meant to deal with non-officials, especially idiots.

 

[Imad.Khan]

Sadly Pakistan is no better, if not worse

A twisted version of Whataboutism.............................

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Sadly Pakistan is no better, if not worse

you will bait these innocent Pakistanis into discussing our human rights record and then make us look bad when we will shed tears for Kashmirs and Palestinians. why you insist on inciting rage in us humane Pakistanis.
if you do care for Pakistani minorities specially the most targeted and persecuted ones in the name of peaceful religion, Sahbah RA or Prophet Muhammad PBUH's family RA and finality etc then please don't bring up examples of those minority groups that have been already declared Infidels and who will be declared infidels if LeJ and Daesh has its way.
yes I am talking about normal Pakistani folks getting along their lives but who have misfortune of being born in the wrong sect or faith and have faced harassment, bulling, ridicule and violence from childhood to their adult age.

dont feel so special about it because when we dont have an Ahmedi, Shia, Christian or Hindu to hate, loath or bully then we kill our own and automatically get declared Ghazi. there is nothing special about Pakistan. Muslims still remain the biggest killers of other Muslims they found lesser Muslims or Heretics in the entire Islamic history,
dont single out us poor Pakistanis.