81 days

[fatman17]

in 90 days any new govt. must set the tone and direction of their govt. plans....except for the circular debt there hasnt been any thing.....its is adhoc, adhoc, adhoc.....NS seems to be overwhelmed by the situation. no real Leadership qualities.

 

[Tameem]

even before he (PM) took office, he had a 3 hour mtg with the CoAS, and since then his tone is muted wrt to india.

That unofficial meeting really was a turning point, An active COAS coming to a politicians home just in plain clothes shows sincerity of the cause which NS too reciprocates in same manner, the conversation and understandings seems reached in pure Lahori style, the formation of National Security Council this silently speaks volume.....!

 

[livingdead]

PML will also needs to work on their foreign policy specially w.r.t India. At the moment the appeasement policy is pathetic to say the least.

what is the appeasement apart from few soundbite. give me some concrete evidence.

 

[SBD-3]

I'm not judging. I was just saying, Instead of just passing directives as a short gap measure, A long last policy is needed which guides all branches in a certain direction achieving their goals

Just an example, a couple of days ago, a news item appeared in express urdu newspaper, which narrates how IT minister Anusha had directed concerned departments, to design and develop software for something in house , instead of they procured it from outside, which escalated the cost of project, IT minister become frustrated. Upon inquiry, it was found, she gave 3 months for the project and it was impossible to develop a software in stipulated time

Point being, Passing directives and orders does not guarantee it will implemented as envisioned.A policy developed by taking all concerned experts and authorities on board will give a realistic approach to what can be achieved in what time

Just found an example of what bureaucracy can do

If I recall correctly, last time when I went to UBL to open a student account in 2011, The manager told me such measures "of tracking someone money flow "have been adopted by all banks on directives of SBP which will help in curbing illegal financial movement and will documenting economy

That Anti-Money Laundring framework which requires bank to report large inflows to SBP. An agency named Financial Monitoring Unit overseas this. Yet this is not typically designed for detecting tax evasion etc.

 

[ice_man]

what is the appeasement apart from few soundbite. give me some concrete evidence.

well a sound bite at a time when your enemy is firing from across the LoC is pretty much appeasement given the circumstances. also releasing prisoners at a time when unprovoked firing from across LoC is going on.

 

[livingdead]

well a sound bite at a time when your enemy is firing from across the LoC is pretty much appeasement given the circumstances. also releasing prisoners at a time when unprovoked firing from across LoC is going on.

what would you say about Indian govt blaming 'terrorists in PA dress' for death of 5 soldiers in cold blood.? is it not appeasement then?

 

[Developereo]

They have taxed them left right and center.

Pakistani government squeezes the lower classes to collect sales tax, while the upper classes escape paying proper income and property taxes.

None of the feudal/industrial parties will EVER change this policy which forms the bedrock of their social contract with the Pakistani elite.

On topic, every democratic government does a "reverse sandwich": lots of action after election and before the next election, with nothing much in between.

 

[Jazzbot]

Just spend a month or two in other areas with dysfunctional law and order and you'll start to appreciate the place where you live.

I love the place where I live and that's the reason I hate PML-N. And there are solid reasons behind that. PML-N is failed to improve law and order situation in Punjab, which not a war hit area like KP or Baluchistan. The militant groups which are in bed with PML-N are roaming freely in Punjab and recent incidents happening in Punjab are indicating how serious the situation is becoming. They are now fighting each other at streets having no fear of getting caught by police.

 

[ice_man]

what would you say about Indian govt blaming 'terrorists in PA dress' for death of 5 soldiers in cold blood.? is it not appeasement then?

what you saying is just pure trolling and non factual. what I stated is in the headlines all over the world. its the usual indian drama whenever new government comes to power in Pakistan.

1) First in 2002 India did parliament attacks

2) Second in 200u8 India did Mumbai attacks

3) Third india did firing across LoC in 2013!

so its usual indian tactics.

now if you wish to troll and rant please open a thread. thanks

 

[SBD-3]

I love the place where I live and that's the reason I hate PML-N. And there are solid reasons behind that. PML-N is failed to improve law and order situation in Punjab, which not a war hit area like KP or Baluchistan. The militant groups which are in bed with PML-N are roaming freely in Punjab and recent incidents happening in Punjab are indicating how serious the situation is becoming. They are now fighting each other at streets having no fear of getting caught by police.

Let me reiterate my previous point again. Spend a month or two at another place where law and order is weak. Where these organizations literally own areas. Where such areas exist where you would not like to move even open day light, where you cannot be secured after the dawn. Where a bullet comes towards you from unknown direction. Whatever you're making a hue, get a first hand experience of those circumstances first as I have. Its human nature that it doesn't appreciate things that it has by default. When these organizations, God forbid, got control of the streets of Lahore, that day I will ask you whats called calm and peace.

 

[SBD-3]

what would you say about Indian govt blaming 'terrorists in PA dress' for death of 5 soldiers in cold blood.? is it not appeasement then?

Terrorists in PA dress? How stupid one can get....

 

[livingdead]

Terrorists in PA dress? How stupid one can get....

exactly... now you understand its just empty words from both sides.. why not blame PA directly.. oh no.. we dont want talks to derail..

 

[SBD-3]

exactly... now you understand its just empty words from both sides.. why not blame PA directly.. oh no.. we dont want talks to derail..

Its India who has withdrawn from the table not Pakistan, to set the record straight. Btw we don't have an issue if Indians keep warmongering, they themselves are loosing diplomatic space. Pakistan's policy of constraint is on right track.

 

[Jazzbot]

Let me reiterate my previous point again. Spend a month or two at another place where law and order is weak. Where these organizations literally own areas. Where such areas exist where you would not like to move even open day light, where you cannot be secured after the dawn. Where a bullet comes towards you from unknown direction. Whatever you're making a hue, get a first hand experience of those circumstances first as I have. Its human nature that it doesn't appreciate things that it has by default. When these organizations, God forbid, got control of the streets of Lahore, that day I will ask you whats called calm and peace.

Nice logic, I am afraid how PML-N has missed great gem of a mind of yours. Why don't you give this idea to NS? He should better move entire nation to Afghanistan, or Somalia or Uganda for a month. Because due to human nature, Pakistanis are criticizing him a lot these days as they don't like current situation in Pakistan and are not satisfied.

So after coming back from Afghanistan or Somalia or Uganda after spending a month there, Pakistani's will start considering Pakistan as a heaven on Earth with no problem at all. And then people will be in so much love with NS that he can declare himself mighty King of Pakistan.

 

[livingdead]

Its India who has withdrawn from the table not Pakistan, to set the record straight. Btw we don't have an issue if Indians keep warmongering, they themselves are loosing diplomatic space. Pakistan's policy of constraint is on right track.

you are right.. which is why I think NS is playing the game much better than out govt.