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70 percent of Chinese millennials are now said to own their home - leading global home ownership

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And their ancestral land? I'm assuming the small holdings are taken over by the state and consolidated into gigantic farm companies (we call them cooperatives ... coz the land owners still own the land and participate, albeit together, as part of a bigger collective).

So compensation? No protests, politics, violence, court cases, NGOs, etc.?
 
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And their ancestral land? I'm assuming the small holdings are taken over by the state and consolidated into gigantic farm companies (we call them cooperatives ... coz the land owners still own the land and participate, albeit together, as part of a bigger collective).

So compensation? No protests, politics, violence, court cases, NGOs, etc.?

It usually comes with huge compensation that is too good to refuse. Cash plus free houses, and many become instant millionaires. Here are some photos how they celebrated:

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Many so called ghost towns have been filled up since publicized by western MSM few years ago, there are many threads here on PDF about this issue. Chinese government builds those cities with strategic plans and anticipated future demand in mind, and they are usually pretty good at making it happen.

Another point of early infrastructure and housing is to prevent slums in China as urbanization, without proper management, always leads to slum development as we are seeing in some countries nearby.
 
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For those who are wondering how Chinese can afford ultra expensive housing without taking out mortgages, here is an good article from Forbes:


How People In China Afford Their Outrageously Expensive Homes
Luxury apartments in Xiamen. Image: Wade Shepard.

I was surprised when the owner of the run-down, 82 square meter apartment outside of the core downtown area of Xiamen that I once rented told me that he was selling it for nearly US$300,000. The apartment was in a well-worn 15 year old building -- old in a country where housing only lasts for 25-30 years -- and had grime covering the walls, tiles from the kitchen floor that were peeling up, water oozing up from the shower drain, and fixtures that were all mismatched . . . and dilapidated at that. Although at 22,000 RMB per square meter I couldn't say that this place was priced abnormally high -- this is just what people pay for homes in the east of China.

An average 80 square meter apartment within Shanghai's Inner Ring Road goes for upwards $886,000; while in the city's hinterlands it sells for around US$200,000. In Beijing, the average cost of a home of this size is roughly US$310,000. This is all in a country were $5 can get you a bulging armful of food from the local market and $70 gets you a bunk on a train that’s going all the way across the country.

According to the IMF ’s house price-to-wage ratio, China has seven of the world’s top ten most expensive cities for residential property. All through the country's tier-one, tier-two, and even some tier-three cities, housing prices are severely out of proportion with the incomes of the people who live there.

In Xiamen, a coastal city with a perpetually hot property market, $300,000 for an apartment is normal -- even though the minimum wage there is hardly $200 per month and the average wage is around $1,000. Even for the city's middle class residents, who make between $1,200 and $5,000 per month, the price seemed prohibitively high.

However, the people of China can afford to buy these extremely expensive properties. In fact, 90% of families in the country own their home, giving China one of the highest home ownership rates in the world. What’s more is that 80% of these homes are owned outright, without mortgages or any other leans. On top of this, north of 20% of urban households own more than one home, according to Nomura . So with wages so out of whack with real estate prices, how can so many people afford to buy so many houses?

Before we can understand how people in China can afford to frolic in their country’s over-inflated housing market, we must look at where this market came from. Hardly 20 years ago China’s real estate market didn’t exist. It wasn’t until the mid-90s that a series of reforms allowed urban residents to own and sell real estate. People were then given the option to purchase their previously government-owned homes at extremely favorable rates, and most of them made the transition to being property owners. Now with a population provisioned with houses that they could sell at their discretion and the ability to buy homes of their choice, China’s real estate market was set to boom. By 2010, a little over a decade later, it would be the largest such market in the world.

When we talk about how people afford houses in China today, more often than not we’re not talking about individuals going out and buying property on their own — as is the general modus operandi in the West. No, we’re talking about entire familial and friend networks who financially assist each other in the pursuit of housing.

At the inner-circle of this social network is often the home buyer’s parents. When a young individual strikes out on their own, lands a decent job, and begins looking to pursue marriage, getting a house is often an essential part of the conversation. Owning a home is virtually a social necessity for an adult in China, and is often a major part of the criteria for evaluating a potential spouse. As parents tend to move into their children’s homes in old age, this truly is a multi-generational affair. So parents will often fork over a large portion of their savings to provision their children with an adequate house -- oftentimes buying it years in advance. If parents are not financially able to buy their kids a house outright, they will generally help with the down payment, or at the very least provide access to their social network to borrow the required funds.

Take for example the case of Ye Qiuqin, a resident of Ordos Kangbashi who owns two houses across the country in Guangdong province, where she is originally from. Together with her fiancé, she makes roughly US$3,200 per month from running a cram school. For her first home she made a down payment of roughly US$20,000; of which $3,300 came from her parents, $10,000 came in the form of loans from her sister and friends, and the rest came from her savings.

To decrease the amount of volatility in China’s often hot property market, there are very strict rules as to how much money people can borrow from the bank for purchasing real estate. Although this slightly varies by city and wavers in response to current economic conditions, for their first home a buyer must lay down a 30% down payment, for the second it’s 60%, and for any property beyond this financing isn’t available. So for people to buy homes in this country they need to step up to the table with a large amount of cash in hand. In fact, 15% of all residential property in China is paid for in full upfront.

Why there is so much liquid cash available for these relatively large down payments is straight forward: the Chinese are some of the best savers in the world. In fact, with a savings rate that equates to 50% of its GDP, China has the third highest such rate in the world. As almost a cultural mandate, the Chinese stash away roughly 30% of their income, which is often called into use for such things as making a down payment on a home — which is the most important financial transaction that many Chinese will ever make.

Another way that Chinese home buyers are able to afford their down payments is via the country’s Housing Provident Fund. This fund began when the country started privatizing urban housing as way to help residents afford to buy their homes. Part of this fund included a government initiated savings plan where employees are given the option to invest a portion of their monthly earnings and have it matched by their employer to assist them with buying a house.

Once the down payment is accounted for, getting mortgages in China is a relatively straight forward affair, and the standards for qualifying are relatively low. For the most part, a borrower’s monthly salary must be at least twice the monthly repayment rate of the loan. Interest rates hover around 6%. On average, those who have these loans will devote between 30% and 50% of their monthly income towards paying them back.

While there is much talk in China and abroad about the increasing number of Chinese home buyers taking out mortgages, relative statistics should quell the hype. Just 18% of Chinese households have mortgages, compared with half of all home owners in the USA. China’s home mortgage-to-GDP ratio was just 15% in 2012, whereas in the USA it was a staggering 81.4%. Although monthly wages in China tend to be relative low, non-performance on mortgages is virtually unheard of -- in 2013 the default rate was a mere 0.17%.

Although we must remember here that China’s banks are fully owned by the Communist Party, and social stability often takes precedence over the raw pursuit of profit, so their lending practices cannot be compared like-for-like against those of Western banks.

Part of China’s boldness when it comes to spending relatively large amounts of money on housing comes from the assumption that wages will continue rising. Nominal income growth in urban China has been going up at a 13% clip annually over the past decade, while annual per-capita disposable income has risen from $1,800 in 2006 to around $4,800 today.

This is to say that the Chinese are able to afford their homes, even though they are extremely expensive.

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https://www.forbes.com/sites/wadesh...ir-outrageously-expensive-homes/#3eb8b9d9a3ce

The sums still don't add up. $300K for an average apartment and $1000 is the average wage? The article talked about China having seven of the world’s top ten most expensive cities for housing-income ratio, and high savings rate is helpless if the ratio is in double digits.

HK's ratio is 19.0, Shenzhen 20.2, Beijing 14.5, Shanghai 11.9. This means that even if a Beijinger saved up every single cent and not spending any money on food or lodging, it would take 14.5 years for him to afford an average housing property in Beijing. If we say that the saving rate is 50% and assume that ALL the money he saved went into buying a house, it would take him around 29 years to fully pay for his housing. So how likely is it that a young Beijinger in his twenties own his own property? Even if his parents help to pay for it, how much can they help? How many families own multiple properties?
 
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It usually comes with huge compensation that is too good to refuse. Cash plus free houses, and many become instant millionaires. Here are some photos how they celebrated:

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We have these overnight millionaires here too. We call them guntha mantris.

Problem is that they are not used to wealth. And blow off the riches within a generation, max two.
 
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We have these overnight millionaires here too. We call them guntha mantris.

Problem is that they are not used to wealth. And blow off the riches within a generation, max two.
These people are most rude and found in surrounding areas of city
 
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Beijing to supply more land for 1.5 million
China.org.cn, April 12, 2017

Beijing announced plans on March 7 to supply 6,000 hectares of land by 2021 in a bid to fulfill the market demand for 1.5 million units of residential houses. Of which, Beijing will supply 5,000 hectares of state-owned construction land and 1,000 of collectively-owned construction land.

Nearly 70 percent of the land will be used for building residential housing with property rights and 30 percent for rental.

In 2017, Beijing will offer 1,200 hectares to meet the market demand for 300,000 units of residential houses.

Land supply in downtown Beijing will account for no more than 20 percent of the total supply of the city, while the plains outside the city proper will supply 65 percent or more. The areas around rail transit stations and large-capacity public transport corridors, and adjacent to industrial parks, the sub-center and the new towns have priority in land selection.

Beijing has made great efforts to build a residential housing system featuring government-based protection and market-oriented multi-level supply. Experts say the efforts will help ease the strain between supply and demand, effectively stabilize housing prices and promote the sound development of the real estate market.
 
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The sums still don't add up. $300K for an average apartment and $1000 is the average wage? The article talked about China having seven of the world’s top ten most expensive cities for housing-income ratio, and high savings rate is helpless if the ratio is in double digits.

HK's ratio is 19.0, Shenzhen 20.2, Beijing 14.5, Shanghai 11.9. This means that even if a Beijinger saved up every single cent and not spending any money on food or lodging, it would take 14.5 years for him to afford an average housing property in Beijing. If we say that the saving rate is 50% and assume that ALL the money he saved went into buying a house, it would take him around 29 years to fully pay for his housing. So how likely is it that a young Beijinger in his twenties own his own property? Even if his parents help to pay for it, how much can they help? How many families own multiple properties?
This in fact a question that not just troubles economists or academics, more importantly many marketers are equally troubled, cos income numbers just don't add up. Say any luxury car firms (e.g. Mercedes, Audi, China Mainland is their top market), private bankers, outbound tourism promoters or even just kitchen sellers, they would already be out-of-business if they based their plans on macro stats. Only when it comes to real life business, when your money on the line, people become realistic and look away from these macro stats. Why the income stats are unreliable? Perhaps:
  1. Large amount of self-employed, proprietors or SME (small-medium) entrepreneurs, their income are not salaries but earnings.
  2. Due to state-private ownership programs (分房政策), these assets are sold to individuals at favorable prices, hence higher purchasing power of nominal income.
  3. Grey income. It's an inconvenient truth that there exists a sizable "grey economy", or "underground economy", numbers are off the tax grid.
 
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This in fact a question that not just troubles economists or academics, more importantly many marketers are equally troubled, cos income numbers just don't add up. Say any luxury car firms (e.g. Mercedes, Audi, China Mainland is their top market), private bankers, outbound tourism promoters or even just kitchen sellers, they would already be out-of-business if they based their plans on macro stats. When it comes to real life business, rather than using these macro stats, people become realistic. Why the income stats are unreliable? Perhaps:
  1. Large amount of self-employed, proprietors or SME (small-medium) entrepreneurs, their income are not salaries but earnings.
  2. Due to state-private ownership programs (分房政策), these assets are sold to individuals at favorable prices, hence higher purchasing power of nominal income.
  3. Grey income. It's an inconvenient truth that there exists a sizable "grey economy", or "underground economy", numbers are off the tax grid.

Good point! From what I can see, Chinese people are much richer than State statistics can show. For example, One of my relatives just sold one of his condos for RMB 1.2 million which he bought 15 years prior for RMB 200K, and this 1 million profit was not reported as his personal income. For the foreign economists who used to base their theory on the assumption that the salary is the sole source of income for majority of people, they simply can't figure out the Chinese economy. Many of them have predicted the "impending burst" of Chinese housing market bubbles, not realizing the mortgage plays only a very small role in China.

If majority of Chinese own their house "clean and free", coupled with the absence of real estates tax, the danger of "bubble burst" is actually much lower than those foreign economists have anticipated.
 
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Good point! From what I can see, Chinese people are much richer than State statistics can show. For example, One of my relatives just sold one of his condos for RMB 1.2 million which he bought 15 years prior for RMB 200K, and this 1 million profit was not reported as his personal income. For the foreign economists who used to base their theory on the assumption that the salary is the sole source of income for majority of people, they simply can't figure out the Chinese economy. Many of them have predicted the "impending burst" of Chinese housing market bubbles, not realizing the mortgage plays only a very small role in China.
Yes, indeed economy here could be difficult for foreigners to comprehend, cos stats never add up to what's happening in ground reality. It's alright if those foreigners are economists, academics or journalists that do BS for a living, but if they run businesses then results could be disastrous. On other thread @GS Zhou also asked why macro stats are so weird, when last year 28 million cars (also note how high the prices are) sold? You may go on and find 800 million tonnes of steel sold, 65% of world's skyscrapers built, 66% of world's HSR, concrete, aluminium, PC, kitchens, TV, washing machine, house flooring ... to even bathtubs, all are gigantic.

Back to this topic of houses, same like others, sold like hotcake, more and more cities have to impose purchase limit (限购), by now at least 41 cities. Stats says 90% household own houses, I wonder where are the 10%. Well individuals and business community never use macro stats, when money talks, bull crap stats walk.
If majority of Chinese own their house "clean and free", coupled with the absence of real estates tax, the danger of "bubble burst" is actually much lower than those foreign economists have anticipated.
Exactly.
 
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Yes, indeed economy here could be difficult for foreigners to comprehend, cos stats never add up to what's happening in ground reality. It's alright if those foreigners are economists, academics or journalists that do BS for a living

It may as well partly be creating confusion tactic. Never give your opponents exact numbers on your strengths and keep them scratching heads and making outlandish claims. This also slowly eats away from their credibility.
 
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70% Chinese millennials lead global home ownership
chinaplus.cri.cn | Updated: 2017-04-10

70 percent of Chinese millennials (the people born in the 1980s and 90s) are now said to own their home, and more than 90 percent of those that haven't bought yet say they intend to do so in the next five years, according to a new survey by HSBC.

The survey by the British banking giant included interviews with 9,000 people based in nine countries. While Chinese millennials lead the global trend of buying a home among the age group, Mexico is next at 46 percent, followed by France at 41 percent, the US and Malaysia at 35 percent, Canada at 34 percent, the UK at 31 percent, Australia at 28 percent and the UAE at 26 percent.

Half of all millennials in UAE who have bought homes have done so with the help of their parents. 40 percent of millennials in China have purchased their homes with the help of their parents.

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This is real prosperity and human rights - to have one's own place is one of the most important conditions to have a stable, prosperous and productive life.

@Shotgunner51 , @ahojunk , @terranMarine , @Jlaw , @Chinese-Dragon


Why do the Chinese always make me feel like a failure in life:cry:?
 
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This in fact a question that not just troubles economists or academics, more importantly many marketers are equally troubled, cos income numbers just don't add up. Say any luxury car firms (e.g. Mercedes, Audi, China Mainland is their top market), private bankers, outbound tourism promoters or even just kitchen sellers, they would already be out-of-business if they based their plans on macro stats. Only when it comes to real life business, when your money on the line, people become realistic and look away from these macro stats. Why the income stats are unreliable? Perhaps:
  1. Large amount of self-employed, proprietors or SME (small-medium) entrepreneurs, their income are not salaries but earnings.
  2. Due to state-private ownership programs (分房政策), these assets are sold to individuals at favorable prices, hence higher purchasing power of nominal income.
  3. Grey income. It's an inconvenient truth that there exists a sizable "grey economy", or "underground economy", numbers are off the tax grid.

But the high prices aren't fake, right? Therefore for 70% of millennials to own their property, their salary must be multiple times of what the official statistics show. If property prices is almost as high or even higher than other developed cities, then the millennials must have an nominal income higher than other developed countries?
 
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