$61 billion

[chander_011]

The debt is going up because the projects its supposed to be starting, haven't started yet. This is the level of your common sense. Ever heard of an ROI (return on investment)? There is a period for it. And it is not in the middle of the investment being made. So similarly, you have to wait till 2018 for all the foundation work to be completed and then within a couple of years after that, you'll start to see the debt starting to go down. Its the same process across the globe.

Sir, ROI concept come into play if the debt is taken for investment/development purpose but the present debt is taken to run day to day affairs of govt and for paying back previous loans. The development funds under CPEC are not even covered under these figures. So practically your argument for ROI will come into picture after taking CPEC funds into debt total. Thanks in advance.

 

[xyxmt]

And do you care to explain how Turkey paid off its debt? Did the money fall from the skies or did Turkey had to improve their economy and attract investments (same thing the NS and the gang is doing)?

If you are educated enough and capable enough to get into a pretty darn serious topic like a nation's debt management, growth strategy and economy, how about instead of bit*ching, you actually offer a solution? Wouldn't that be an actual positive thing to do? And we can debate to see if your solution can solve Pakistan's issues? And if you have nothing to say and just constant cry baby drama rants, well, how about stfu??

I think I gave you two good options. I'd love to see option 1 working out once, but i think you'd prefer option 2 as always, people like you just write angry posts and then have nothing to contribute.

Go ahead, surprise me once, show me you are smarter and different than the effing dumb idiot you follow?



Hey, yo, you forgot to put "facts" in your post. But your post started out with "The Facts"!! Care to put some real one's in there? . I'd like to see some real substance, getting tired of you guys writing "girls on periods" posts. Show me some real substance backed up by the World Bank, ADB or other respected institutes so then I can agree with you that there is serious issues.

the majority of PTI supporters are Pakistan educated youth, a youth when you talk to you feel ashamed of your education system, they watch paid TV shows to get their knowledge from mediocrely educated TV hosts. All their posts are nothing more than a conversation you hears on corners Pan Shops. Their role modal is an idiots who supposedly won world cup for Pakistan, supposedly educated from Oxford (in journalism) and who have made every wrong decision in his personal life and these idiots are betting their country's fate on his decision. They want to provide education and healthcare to every Pakistan from what sources they don't know, yet they scream corruption when govt puts any tax to collect money for these services. Their claim that their visionary leader will fix everything only and only when he becomes a PM he is too big for a province to fix their problem. I dont pay attention to these idiots mainly because most if the time i have to read their post three times and even then i cant make any sense out of it.

 

[Khanate]

Interest rates are so low, or even negative, these days. To not borrow right now is stupid. Finance 101.

 

[coffee_cup]

The thing to understand is that after putting us under monsterous foreign debt, all these Sharifs and Zardaris will be living lavish lives in Dubai, London, New York etc.

It will be left for our future generations to pay all that debt.

Oh man, when will our people really understand that these leeches are here on a mission

 

[Zibago]

You truly think my name is "Mr Aurengzeb"?? I would love to hear this. If you answered yes, that is how naive you are, and this is reflected in your political mindset also. Do tell me the credible proofs behind my so called "name" please..



So.....because I talk about growth, support someone's work for Pakistan and hate the liars and bullshiit artists....I am NS's bootlicker? That's pretty smart considering I probably make more than NS and IK!!



The debt is going up because the projects its supposed to be starting, haven't started yet. This is the level of your common sense. Ever heard of an ROI (return on investment)? There is a period for it. And it is not in the middle of the investment being made. So similarly, you have to wait till 2018 for all the foundation work to be completed and then within a couple of years after that, you'll start to see the debt starting to go down. Its the same process across the globe. The US taking on more than a trillion debt, but lowering interest rates, providing business subsidies around 2009-2011 has now started to show ROI in 2015-2016 as our stock market's back and been hitting ATH (all time highs).

And who told you our country was going through a down turn , in past two years alone, the US real estate has gone up at an average of 25% and in other areas, as much as 35%. Our stock market just last month has hit ATH multiple times!!

@orangzaib
Isnt thus your old user name?


So you make more than Nawaz Sharif yet you post pics of Ferraris from google images and call them as your own like a 10 year old

 

[Thəorətic Muslim]

Having/ holding debt isn't a bad problem, it becomes bad when the State cant afford to pay off their commitments.

Every State has to take out a loan to meet their budgetary requirements. It's cheaper to take out loans now, low interests rates, to pay for infrastructure (roads/dams/schools) than taking loans later when not only the cost of the project is increased, the economic potential losts, and the interest rates as well.

For Pakistan it's estimated each year $43 billion a year is in corruption, that's $billions of dollars that dont each the Treasury to allocate toward the budget. THE FRB is patting themselves on the back for introducing 10,000 new tax filers, but how many don't pay the tax?

To everyone on this thread and forum that rambles on about Pakistan requiring loans take a MacroEcon 101 class and talk after you atleast understand the basics.

And to you all also, if you don't file your taxes you really dont have a right to Bit<h.

 

[hussain0216]

Viper is right


Debt is a necessity if we want to grow at the moment

Our debt is relatively significant compared to our economy but our economy is small compared to our nation and the growth prospects of a underdeveloped state that could have major economic growth over the next few decades


So if our economy takes off our debt becomes small and manageable

We have vested interests in our nation, they dont care about Pakistan improving just their usual petty politics

If a great achievement is made for Pakistan (regardless of what it is) these people will hate it, mock it, degrade it aslong as the opposition politician thought of it or completed it, they dont care about the benefits to Pakistan


Nawaz is corrupt sure i dont deny that
But Zardari was corrupt and USELESS
Altaf is corrupt, drunk and frankly mental
Imran is idealistic but long way to go
Who else
Fazaloo corrupt, fake religious

Pakistan can only do the best with the bad bunch of pricks we have

Now I know Nawaz is corrupt, but he has done a lot better than zardari or anyone else

The opportunities have not been maximised but lets hope for the best, support our government and make sure all politicians are held to account

RATHER than try to cause instability by removing one corrupt politician for another corrupt politician like Zardari