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50 Shades Of Fake: How To Protect Your Product From Copycats In China

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Did you know that your product might be copied in China even before you ship it? While copying happens elsewhere, including Facebook blatantly copying Snapchat features or Google Home being a strong echo of Amazon's echo, Chinese copycats can be particularly aggressive.

Realistically, the gigantic Chinese supply chain, built over decades with some of the dollars from our past and future iPhones, cannot possibly move overnight (or over a U.S. presidential term). As a result, most high-tech manufacturing will remain in China—at least for a while. Today, its scale and know-how is unparalleled, and can bring enormous advantages to companies who know how to make use of it.

So how can you protect your business from such a ruthless environment? This is the number one question we get asked at our Shenzhen-based hardware startup accelerator, HAX. Here is our most up-to-date answer on how smart entrepreneurs protect themselves, whether or not they produce or sell in China.

Know your fakes

Not all fakes are created equal, and hence they should be dealt with differently. First, there are products made by competitors under their own brand. They could have learned about your product by reverse engineering it, seeing it advertised online or on Kickstarter (like the Fidget Cube), or from a leak at your partner factory.

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Depending on the case, they might infringe on your patents, design or trademark. They might also have circumvented those, or operate in a legal vacuum if you haven't protected yourself where their products are made or sold.

The second kind of fakes are products made by your own factory, that can become your toughest competitor. It could be selling the surplus they have, or derivatives made using what they learned from you. If your only protection was an NDA, they are breaking your trust, but not the law.

So what can you do to protect your startup from those troubles? There are old and new ways to do so, with pros and cons for each.

NDAs are not enough


They don't protect you as much as you think. Your factory might sell your products to new customers, or even try to sell to your own customers, both in China and abroad. Dan Harris, an international lawyer at Harris Bricken specializing in Chinese business law and fellow Forbes contributor, advocates "NNN Agreements," which include non-disclosure (the classic NDA), non-circumvention and non-competition. Those can be complemented by manufacturing agreements and product development agreements to avoid issues with your factory subcontracting the job, changing suppliers without notice, or even claiming rights for their contribution to the development of your product.

Patents and trademarks

Patents are often a necessary evil: of little direct use until you're established, but highly valuable for protection, licensing or acquisition later on. Yet, patents are not always suitable. Often, you’re better off keeping some processes or software confidential. To avoid wasting your resources, research prior art, define your IP strategy, file early (a provisional patent is affordable and gives you time to plan), and optimize payments. In China, a trademark or a design patent can be very effective so do not forget to file locally.

Do your due diligence

Key suppliers are as important as cofounders. They are also as important as investors, since favorable payment terms will support your cash flow. Don't simply hand over your plan to a factory you met on Alibaba: a shotgun wedding can end up in a costly divorce.

Get recommendations, do your research and be on the ground. Make sure your partners meet the quality and labor standards you want, have the right motivation and give you proper attention. As a fledgling startup, you bring them very little revenue to start with. Hence, you must find partners who value intangibles such as believing in your product, your vision, and who like dealing with you. Avoid factories who think short term and China-only.

Keep it complex

The complexity of your product is a natural defense. The entry barrier could come from science (e.g. material science, optics, medical research), software (e.g. computer vision algorithms and AI), manufacturing (like for Native Union's marble smartphone cases) or a community.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/benjam...roduct-from-copycats-in-china/2/#4b5a20f25afa

 
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i made a mistake buying a portable chinese hard-disk, around 1000rs in the market. should have known it would be shit. used it for a week kept all my project work , the piece of trash stopped responding now.
 
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i made a mistake buying a portable chinese hard-disk, around 1000rs in the market. should have known it would be shit. used it for a week kept all my project work , the piece of trash stopped responding now.
No, i bought a Chinese Bluetooth headphone with even radio and sd card features for USD 10 and used for 2year. Still working fine and sound quality is still the same with no degrading. Why pay for some stupid US brand like dr dre for USD 200?

Most Chinese made product are great. There is a reason why alibaba shipment to Eastern Europe and Russia are increasing at an ever expanding rate. You can check out most review by them are very positive.
 
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No, i bought a Chinese Bluetooth headphone with even radio and sd card features for USD 10 and used for 2year. Still working fine and sound quality is still the same with no degrading. Why pay for some stupid US brand like dr dre for USD 200?
It depends on the product.

Am going to clue you in on ONE secrets of the semiconductor manufacturing industry's many secrets using NAND as example...

There are three tiers of NAND memory customers: Tier One, Tier Two, and Tier Three.

Naturally...

Say I am a NAND memory manufacturer. I have a diverse line, from the small 4gb all the way to 256gb capacity.

In every NAND die (chip) there are what we call 'repairs sectors'. During the manufacturing process, things can go wrong, from the wrong temperature of the chemicals to end of life 'chemical mechanical planarization' (CMP) pads...

https://www.cabotcmp.com/cmp-slurries-and-cmp-polishing-pads/

Say we use 128gb capacity as example...

Every NAND manufacturer labels their products differently, but essentially, it is called 'Product Grade Levels' (PGL).

On a typical NAND silicon wafer, there are what is called 'prime' dies. They are dies that requires no activation of the repairs sectors, in other words, they were perfectly formed in manufacturing. Prime dies are sold at premium prices and to Tier One customers like Sony, IBM, Apple, etc.

If a die has a manufacturing defect that directly affected its capacity of 128gb and if some of the repairs sectors were used to maintain that 128gb capacity, that die is classified as Tier Two and sold for lower profits. A Tier One customer could buy it, but it would be sold for other applications where data integrity is not as critical.

If a die has a manufacturing defect that directly affected its capacity of 128gb but the repair sectors were not able to maintain its original 128gb capacity, that die will be downgraded to %50 to 64gb and sold as Tier Three. Sometimes, the die is so bad that it had to be sold at the lowest possible capacity, which is 2gb. No Tier One or Tier Two customer will buy it. Tier Three, or PGL3, customers are primarily in China. What they do with our PGL3 products is none of our business. That 4gb USB flash drive you have in your pocket ? It may have started out as 128gb capacity but to be on the safe side, we conditioned the die down to 4gb and sold it as 4gb.

There is no comparison between a spinner hard drive and an SD card. That SD card manufacturer maybe a Tier Three customer who deals in PGL3 products. You simply do not know.
 
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i will never buy chinese food.... electronics though depends... some are pretty good... some are crap... as with everything you get what you pay for
 
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And people still believe that China has been successful to gather surplus in trillions of $'s just for selling low and cheap quality products? and people doesn't even want to look what they are paying for and what can they afford
or what are their buying capacity ... most of the ill minded are scattered on the face of earth just to propagate -ve
for competitors or adversaries even the result is telling the exact opposite of what they think

I have an analogy for these people yes these are the same people who want to spend $5000.00 to have a car equal to "Lamborghini" and they don't want to see what they have in their pockets rather than crying for the products.

I am all telling this because i myself own a company and we always interact with different kinds of people with different kinds of buying capacity and we provide custom jobs in return what they pay ... hope you get the point ...
 
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Most of the cheap products from china are garbage, some are fake and some copy the logos.

There are some brands like Lenovo which are good.
 
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Most of the cheap products from china are garbage, some are fake and some copy the logos.

There are some brands like Lenovo which are good.
Your agenda spreading fake lies here is as good as trash! :enjoy:

So Why India has a huge trade surplus favor China when China as you stated can produce most trash? Are you saying India is dumb? :lol:

My Friend bought some HMT made in India watch. It breaks down in just a day. He vote never buy made in India trash again. :enjoy:

If you think most Chinese product are trash. You can stop using computer or most electronic products. You are not able to avoid made in China but can't say for made in India product.
 
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I want these fakes:

Huawei Watch 2

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Or these:

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BYD developed this medium-duty step van for UPS. (Photo: BYD)

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Some HDT electric taxis park at the event venue at the launch of the HDT Electric Taxi held in Singapore on Feb. 24, 2017. Singapore's Minister in Prime Minister's Office Chan Chun Sing on Friday witnessed the official launch of the first batch of HDT electric and eco-friendly taxis, powered by new energy vehicle producer BYD Co Ltd. head-quartered in China's Shenzhen. (Xinhua/Then Chih Wey)

:enjoy:
 
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Yes, Fake Chinese drone. And I dont know DJI mavic pro fake from who? Maybe Indians :enjoy:

http://www.mynewsdesk.com/uk/dji/pr...sonal-flight-with-new-mavic-pro-drone-1622367

Typical Indian full of jealousy. Can't beat Chinese and will use underhand method like smearing and tell fake lies to serve their wounded ego. Fact is Chinese produced most advance product and capture world market. This makes a of hater who can't beat Chinese.

If there is a fair competition. Indian can never beat a Chinese fair and square in most of it. :enjoy:
 
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Your agenda spreading fake lies here is as good as trash! :enjoy:

So Why India has a huge trade surplus favor China when China as you stated can produce most trash? Are you saying India is dumb? :lol:

My Friend bought some HMT made in India watch. It breaks down in just a day. He vote never buy made in India trash again. :enjoy:

If you think most Chinese product are trash. You can stop using computer or most electronic products. You are not able to avoid made in China but can't say for made in India product.

Dude I have no agenda against Chinese goods, they are well known for their quality :D

The trade surplus is because of the finished products and the foreign operated factories in China. Out of the 50 or 70 Billion trade surplus. The share of Chinese sweat is very less, remaining profit is claimed by Apple and other big MNC's.

China is world's factory, just now Chinese MNC's are emerging.

The trade surplus figure is wrongly interpreted.
 
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The trade surplus is because of the finished products and the foreign operated factories in China. Out of the 50 or 70 Billion trade surplus.

This statement is genius of it's own, so you think the Foreign operated factories in China are having their super products made even knowing the quality scale of Chinese manufacturing and they are so dumb to get going with getting their products produced in China? :mad:

I really would like to quote "Max Frisch" saying: "Jealousy is the fear of comparison".
 
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