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SAF relative felt insulted during PNoy face-to-face

Report by Chuck Tinte, ABS-CBN News
Posted at 02/20/2015 6:52 PM | Updated as of 02/20/2015 6:54 PM
Palace says it respects differences on how PNoy was received

MANILA - A relative of one of the 44 Special Action Force (SAF) commandos killed in the Mamasapano operation said she felt insulted by President Aquino's answers and overall demeanor when he talked to the families last Wednesday.

Relatives of the SAF commandos went to Camp Crame on Wednesday to submit the necessary documents for their benefits.

Each family is set to receive P250,000 from Malacanang, special financial assistance from the Philippine National Police, a P1.1 million pension and other benefits.

During the gathering, President Aquino and other government officials discussed with the families the benefits they will receive, including financial support from private companies.

According to Jennifer (not her real name), the President did not seem serious about his answers to the questions about the Mamasapano operation that targeted Malaysian terrorist Zulkifli bin Hir, alias Marwan.

"Yung isa sa kasamahan namin nagtanong about kung bakit hindi nagpadala ng airstrike, sabi ni PNoy: 'Naglalaro ka ba ng computer?' Syempre na-offend kami kasi inaasahan namin na sagot niya is either opinion niya or basta yung totoo," she said.

She said, at certain times, the President was laughing even as the relatives of the Fallen 44 asked for direct answers on who ordered the operation and why so many died.

"Sa maraming questions ng mga kasamahan namin, sasabihin niya: 'Tignan mo kung namumula ang mukha ko?' Ano yun? Natatawa siya. Nakakabastos kasi yung sagot na gusto namin, hindi niya masabi. Tumatawa siya habang sinasagot ang mga tanong namin," she said.

She said several of the families asked Aquino who should be blamed for the Mamasapano operation.

"Diretsong sinabi ni PNoy na 'Sino pa eh di si [relieved SAF director Getulio] Napenas kasi siya yung nagplano dito.' Sabi tuloy ng isang kasamahan namin: 'Kung si Napenas ang may kasalanan, puede bang bitayin nalang natin?'"

Jennifer said it is impossible for the President not to know about the operation in Mamasapano. The Senate inquiry earlier showed the President was briefed about the operation by both suspended PNP chief Alan Purisima and Napenas last January 9 in Malacanang.

It was during this meeting that Purisima told Napenas not to inform Interior and Local Government Secretary Mar Roxas and PNP OIC Leonardo Espina about the operation until it was already launched.

Quoting sources, a Philippine Star report also said Purisima was updating the President about the Mamasapano operation as early as 5 a.m. on January 25, the day it was launched.

'WASTE OF TIME'

For Jennifer, the President was washing his hands of any responsibility in the event and passing the blame to his subordinates.

"Useless pala siyang kausap...nagwaste tayo ng time," she said.

"Napakadisgusting yung way niya. Although kung sa kanya eh natural lang na galaw niya yun, sa amin kasi is hindi. Makikita mo talaga sa mukha na hindi siya interesado sa problema mo."

"Just looking at the face, malalaman mo kung interesado siya na makinig sa problema mo or kung gusto mong sabihin. Sa nakikita parang wala lang sa kanya, parang simpleng bagay lang ito sa kanya."


The President stayed with the families until 11 p.m. last Wednesday but not without assuring them of the government's support.

For Jennifer, what she wants is a face-to-face meeting with Aquino, Napenas, Purisima and other top PNP officials where all of the families of the slain commandos can speak freely.

"Gusto namin sila makaharap with the 44 families. Baka sakali makita kami at marinig nila ang mga hinaing namin eh makonsensya sila at masabi nila yung totoo," she said.

She said it would also be best if the President faces the Senate inquiry on the Mamasapano incident.

"Gusto namin siya sumalang sa Senate hearing. Kaya nga nagrequest kami sa ibang matataas na opisyal natin sa Malacanang na tulungan kami na sumali sa senate hearing para at least personal naming na maririnig ang mga higher official natin."

RESPECT, UNDERSTANDING

Malacañang, meanwhile, said it respects the sentiments from some families of the fallen Special Action Force (SAF) commandos who reportedly expressed dissatisfaction over the President's conduct during his dialogue with them Wednesday night.

"Owing to the fact that their loss is very, very fresh and that they lost their loved ones in such a manner, we would understand… [that] they look at that opportunity to be able to ask the President questions differently. There are also families who have chosen not to speak of their private conversation but also did say they have no ill feelings towards the President. So at this point, we respect the differentiation of how he was received," deputy presidential spokesperson Abigail Valte said.

SAF relative felt insulted during PNoy face-to-face | ABS-CBN News

Pnoy should wear a face mask. Lalo lang nag-iinit ang ulo ng mga kamag-anak ng SAF 44 sa pinaggagagawa niya. Saka tigilan na niya ang paglalaro ng PS4.

Pnoy should consider taking a leave till the end of his term if he doesn't want to resign.
 
Kris Aquino prepared for PNOy’s possible cases after Presidency
By Lex Mendez On February 23, 2015 In News No Comments
- See more at: Kris Aquino prepared for PNOy’s possible cases after Presidency - PinoyRepublic.TV

Actress and TV host Kris Aquino noted on Sunday that she is now preparing for the worst possible scenario after his brother, President Aquino will step down from office. According to Presidential sister she expects her brother to face cases, which will be filed against him by his political opponents.

She also noted during an interview that she would not run in the 2016 elections, saying that she needs to support her brother.

The TV-host and actress was quoted as saying “Let’s be honest, maraming magiging kaso next year (na isasampa laban sa Presidente),” she said on Sunday on “The Buzz.”

President’s term will expire on June 30, 2016, and the Presidential sister noted that she is prioritizing her family over political ambition.

Kris Aquino prepared for PNOy’s possible cases after Presidency - PinoyRepublic.TV
 
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i wont say that. Along with the Myanmar Army, Phil Army is one of the most experienced army. They experienced in battling insurgents in guerrilla warfare or urban warfare (Zamboanga). Although they equipment is limited, don't underestimate they skill

Philippine armed forces and National Police department is sucks, both in their basic capability (etc training, leadership, NCO corps, doctrine) and their equipment too. Corruption is in rampage, leaders preferring their own man to hold higher positions in Army and Police like what Pinoy did to his old friends who fill the higher ranks in Police department and Army, acquisition programme is always in slow motion just look they've just re tendering again their Howitzer bid after failed again after so many bidding process.

they must admit it for sure or else there is not initiative for them to do reforms. Masapano massacres is just a tip from the ice bergs of Philippine security problems they had there

Past is past.

The Manila Hostage crisis is a failure but that incident has in no relation to the current incident save for a fact that it was done by the same law enforcement agency. The Taiwan fisherman incident is another blunder but again it has no relation to this incident. Why bring it up?

I guess it seems you really want to see our capabilities then. Don't worry, since a war is coming soon and you will see.

What kind of capabilities Philippine Armed forces had and need to bragging about? corruption? Slow moving tender process? your never ending war against rebels? your antique vintage Navy and Air forces?
 
What kind of capabilities Philippine Armed forces had and need to bragging about? corruption? Slow moving tender process? your never ending war against rebels? your antique vintage Navy and Air forces?

Since the Viet started the bragging debates, it is only the only way to counter his statements even if our military and police force is ill-equipped and under-trained and there is nothing to brag about.
 
Since the Viet started the bragging debates, it is only the only way to counter his statements even if our military and police force is ill-equipped and under-trained and there is nothing to brag about.

just ignore him
 
Aquino faces treason complaint for Mamasapano attack, BBL
6:58 PM | Wednesday, March 4th, 2015


MANILA, Philippines—Former immigrations commissioner and assemblyman Homobono Adaza filed a treason complaint against President Benigno Aquino III, his allies and Cabinet members in the Ombudsman over the botched Mamasapano operation and the draft Bangsamoro Basic Law (BBL).

The complaint against Aquino was filed on Wednesday even when under jurisprudence, the President is immune from suits.

According to the complaint-affidavit filed by Adaza and Herman Tiu Laurel, Aquino, Speaker Feliciano Belmonte Jr., Senate President Franklin Drilon, presidential peace adviser Teresita Deles, peace panel chair Miriam Coronel-Ferrer, as well as the MILF peace panel chair Mohagher Iqbal, chair Murad Ebrahim and vice chair Ghazali Jaafar are liable for treason.

The complainants said Aquino should be charged with treason for entering into a peace deal with the MILF and for backing what they call an “unconstitutional” bill that seeks to create a more politically autonomous Bangsamoro entity to the benefit of the MILF.

According to the complaint, Aquino should be charged for giving Murad P5 million which the complainants said could have been used in the attack against the Special Action Force (SAF) cops in a botched Jan. 25 antiterror raid that left 44 elite cops dead.

Malacañang has said the P5 million donated in 2011 formed part of the previous administration’s commitment and would be used to establish the Bangsamoro Management and Leadership Institute.

The complaint said the President should be charged for allegedly issuing a stand down order from sending reinforcements to the SAF in a bid to save the BBL.

The complainants said Drilon, Belmonte, Deles and Ferrer should be charged for treason for the endorsement and drafting of the BBL. The MILF representatives should also be charged for waging war against the Philippine republic, they added.

The complainants said the Bangsamoro entity under the BBL is more unconstitutional than the memorandum of agreement on ancestral domain (MOA-AD) that was struck down by the Supreme Court under the Aquino administration for being contrary to law.

“They are citizens of the Republic of the Philippines concerned with the dangerous drift of the country due to failure of leadership and treasonous and incompetent behavior of many of our national leaders and public officials,” the complaint said.

The complainants said the BBL is unconstitutional for promoting a substate; for promoting Islam which they said tolerated the unconstitutional tenets of polygamy and divorce; for promoting a parliamentary system of government against the constitutional presidential and unitary system, among others.

According to the Revised Penal Code, Filipinos convicted for treason, or for levying war against government or for adhering to state enemies, face reclusion temporal or 12 years and one day to 20 years imprisonment, as well as a P20,000 fine.

Aquino faces treason complaint for Mamasapano attack, BBL | Inquirer News
 
Aquino faces treason complaint for Mamasapano attack, BBL
6:58 PM | Wednesday, March 4th, 2015


MANILA, Philippines—Former immigrations commissioner and assemblyman Homobono Adaza filed a treason complaint against President Benigno Aquino III, his allies and Cabinet members in the Ombudsman over the botched Mamasapano operation and the draft Bangsamoro Basic Law (BBL).

The complaint against Aquino was filed on Wednesday even when under jurisprudence, the President is immune from suits.

According to the complaint-affidavit filed by Adaza and Herman Tiu Laurel, Aquino, Speaker Feliciano Belmonte Jr., Senate President Franklin Drilon, presidential peace adviser Teresita Deles, peace panel chair Miriam Coronel-Ferrer, as well as the MILF peace panel chair Mohagher Iqbal, chair Murad Ebrahim and vice chair Ghazali Jaafar are liable for treason.

The complainants said Aquino should be charged with treason for entering into a peace deal with the MILF and for backing what they call an “unconstitutional” bill that seeks to create a more politically autonomous Bangsamoro entity to the benefit of the MILF.

According to the complaint, Aquino should be charged for giving Murad P5 million which the complainants said could have been used in the attack against the Special Action Force (SAF) cops in a botched Jan. 25 antiterror raid that left 44 elite cops dead.

Malacañang has said the P5 million donated in 2011 formed part of the previous administration’s commitment and would be used to establish the Bangsamoro Management and Leadership Institute.

The complaint said the President should be charged for allegedly issuing a stand down order from sending reinforcements to the SAF in a bid to save the BBL.

The complainants said Drilon, Belmonte, Deles and Ferrer should be charged for treason for the endorsement and drafting of the BBL. The MILF representatives should also be charged for waging war against the Philippine republic, they added.

The complainants said the Bangsamoro entity under the BBL is more unconstitutional than the memorandum of agreement on ancestral domain (MOA-AD) that was struck down by the Supreme Court under the Aquino administration for being contrary to law.

“They are citizens of the Republic of the Philippines concerned with the dangerous drift of the country due to failure of leadership and treasonous and incompetent behavior of many of our national leaders and public officials,” the complaint said.

The complainants said the BBL is unconstitutional for promoting a substate; for promoting Islam which they said tolerated the unconstitutional tenets of polygamy and divorce; for promoting a parliamentary system of government against the constitutional presidential and unitary system, among others.

According to the Revised Penal Code, Filipinos convicted for treason, or for levying war against government or for adhering to state enemies, face reclusion temporal or 12 years and one day to 20 years imprisonment, as well as a P20,000 fine.

Aquino faces treason complaint for Mamasapano attack, BBL | Inquirer News

Unfortunately, trying to have ABNoy step down at this year is a little "too late"; it would have been better had the call been made and was forced way back in late-2013 to early-2014.

I now wonder if, in 2016, will he seek a wheelchair or a straight-jacket.
 
Americans cared more about saving SAF than Aquino and his generals
March 20, 2015 1:54 am

The Senate report on the Mamasapano massacre revealed one of its saddest chapters, narrated in one of its executive (read: secret) sessions.

Special Action Forces were radioing for help as they were trapped, and real-time video by American drones showed the actual battle that Muslim snipers were killing them one by one with their caliber-50 Barrett rifles.

It was most probably mid-day, five hours after Philippine National Police (PNP) officers, not only those on the ground but even PNP acting chief Leonardo Espina, had asked

Major General Edmundo Pangilinan, commander of the 6th Infantry Division, for artillery to fend off the Muslim forces.

According to the Senate Committee report there were six Americans at the command post, probably civilian contractors under the US military’s payroll:

“One of the Americans (at the tactical command post) ordered Pangilinan to fire the artillery. However, Pangilinan refused and told him, ‘Do not dictate to me what to do. I am the commander here.’” Appearing even proud of his remark, Pangilinan confirmed he said that in a Congress hearing the other day to confirm his promotion to top major-general rank.

I don’t think the American gave an “order,” or he wouldn’t have any business in that kind of clandestine affair.

Most probably, he was viewing in real time provided by their drones that the SAF troops were trapped and would be soon massacred. Probably, nobody else in the tactical command post had the guts to emphasize to the general that without the artillery, the commandos were goners. Probably, the American got to be friends with the SAF commandos, based on reports that Americans had trained them.

So most probably, and considering how informal—and emotional—Americans could get, he got mad, and maybe one of them even raised his voice to Pangilinan and told him: “Can you fire your f——ng artillery now, general, or those soldiers will be f——ng massacred!”
And how did Pangilinan respond? Not with an angry flag-waving statement that went something like, “the US cannot interfere in our country!” Not with a rational reply that the artillery didn’t have precise coordinates and may hit civilians.

Instead, his reply was so petty and egoistic: “Do not dictate to me what to do. I am the commander here.” Pangilinan was more concerned about his bruised ego, that he was being “dictated to,” than about saving the lives of the SAF troopers.

Was it because Pangilinan didn’t want to appear to be “dictated to” and to assert his position of authority, so that he ordered the artillery to fire three white phosphorus markers, only at 5:48 p.m.—10 hours after he was first requested to do so by PNP officers at 8 a.m.? But that was hours after the 44 had been killed, with the Muslim insurgents even having the time to be able to approach the wounded, shoot them in the head and rob them even of their personal belongings.

Indeed, the Senate committee’s report that six Americans were at the operation’s tactical command post providing real-time monitoring (with the use of their drones and high GPS systems) belies Pangilinan’s excuse, which he gave in the hearing.

He had claimed that he didn’t want the artillery fired since without precise information, they risked hitting the SAF or even civilians. But the US monitoring systems at the command post were the most technologically advanced in the world, that coordinates could be precisely established, and had been, in fact, given.

He even claimed that he had not deployed “forward observers,” i.e., personnel watching where the first rounds would land so as to adjust the next firing, because the PNP had not coordinated with his troops. But the US drones, in effect, meant a limitless number of “forward observers.”

There’s another instance in which the Americans seemed to care more for the lives of the SAF than those of Aquino and his generals. Even as the battle was still ongoing, they sent at least one helicopter to evacuate the wounded. The Western Command had six helicopters based in Cotabato City. Why weren’t they deployed? There was no request, Aquino’s generals replied.

Did the thought cross Aquino’s mind that fateful day while he was pretending nothing serious was happening as he toured Zamboanga City to ask the helicopters hovering above the city for his security to, instead, be deployed to rescue the SAF in Mamasapano? Not a chance.

There could only be three reasons why Aquino’s generals dragged their feet on saving the police commandos:

One, it was petty jealousy, and even inter-service rivalry. The Laguna-based SAF would be praised for having killed a notorious international terrorist in Maguindanao, where the Army’s 6th Infantry Division was based and should have had a vast intelligence network to know that the terrorist lived there, apparently for years. Since the SAF didn’t want to share the credit, and didn’t coordinate with them on the operation, they were left to fend for themselves, until the generals realized the casualties would become too high that they moved to rescue and fire the artillery to save the 84th SAF company, after the 44th SAC had been decimated.

Two, the generals were in cahoots with the insurgents, especially with the MILF. While this may be a cruel accusation, I was told way back in 1996 by my MILF informants: “Don’t you notice that nearly every general gets to be assigned in Maguindanao before he retires? They amass their retirement money here, since we buy our arms and ammo from them.”
And third, the most likely reason, which is why suspended police chief Alan Purisima – Aquino’s commander of the operations—claimed his boss’s last text message was at 10:16 a.m., and why Chief of Staff Gregorio Catapang and his generals refused to submit their cell phones to the PNP Board of Inquiry: Their commander-in-chief told them to stand down, or his peace plan with the MILF would be derailed.

This is not just dereliction of duty, not just betrayal of public trust. This is criminal, deliberate negligence that resulted in the deaths of 44 of our elite troops.

Americans cared more about saving SAF than Aquino and his generals - The Manila Times OnlineThe Manila Times Online
 
The problem why this ended in a tragedy is simple - a suspended police chief, who happen to be very close to Aquino III and happens to be his old bodyguard handled the operations or has a hand on the said operation.

Aquino III will not be sorry for this incident as he thinks the so-called peace process is more important; in short Aquino III is desperate in leaving a legacy once he leaves office after June 2016.
 
Smart Communications has smoking gun on Aquino’s stand-down order
April 9, 2015 9:32 pm

The Indonesian-Japanese venture Smart Communications has proof, or at least the smoking gun, for President Benigno S. Aquino’s “stand-down order” to the military, telling them not to save the police commandos trapped in Mamasapano.

This is contained in the company’s log of SMS messages between Aquino and his bosom buddy, the resigned Police Chief Alan Purisima. The President in effect illegally designated Purisima—despite his being suspended—as his executive officer for the police elite unit Special Action Forces’ Oplan Exodus, the plan to terminate international terrorist Zulkifli Abdhir aka “Marwan” and two of his collaborators.

As part of his sworn testimony to the Senate hearing last month, Purisima submitted a transcript of what he claimed was the exchange of SMS messages between him and Aquino on that fateful day.

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Smart Communications has smoking gun on Aquino’s stand-down order - The Manila Times OnlineThe Manila Times Online
 
It is quite funny and insulting that Chinese members PRAISE terrorists for killing our police commandos. I guess it is time to insult dead PAP policemen and PLA soldier when they are killed then.

Ignore the trolls. Report any racist and insensitive comments.
 
It is quite funny and insulting that Chinese members PRAISE terrorists for killing our police commandos. I guess it is time to insult dead PAP policemen and PLA soldier when they are killed then.

Ya this are the people who killed by knifes terrorist were is kung fu now kungpang chickens?
 
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