3 killed in Bangladesh ethnic violence

[Spring Onion]

Land dispute mainly. Or may be other political issues. But we do not have any issue with race, religion and culture.

who are the legitimate owners ? chakmas or bengalis ?

after reading the details one more thing i want to ask how come the chakmas (kings and their kins in the past ) had Muslim or mongol names but with passage of time towards era of East India company and onwards they adopted hindu names ?

if they were budhists why Muslim names ?

 

[kobiraaz]

where these settlers come from ? are they not Bangladeshis ?

Tribal people call them settler who come from plain land and lives in their hills ! So if a bengali farmer from chittangong , leaving chittagong starts living in Bandarban Hills ... he is a settler!

 

[Spring Onion]

Tribal people call them settler who come from plain land and lives in their hills ! So if a bengali farmer from chittangong , leaving chittagong starts living in Bandarban Hills ... he is a settler!

what is the legal status of the land ? to whom it belongs ? Govt or individuals. If govt then this claim of grabbing land of one party by other is wrong.

above all i want to as why you guys dont call both as Bangladeshis instead of saying we are bengalis and they are non bengalis ?

i feel its just like 71 like hate being created by one of you

 

[kobiraaz]

who you call indigenous people and who you call bengalis ??

According to wiki - In the late twentieth century the term indigenou people became a political term used to refer to ethnic groups have historical ties to groups that existed in a territory prior to colonization or formation of a nation state, and which normally preserve a degree of cultural and political separation from the mainstream culture and political system of the nation state within the border of which the indigenous group is located

 

[kobiraaz]

what is the legal status of the land ? to whom it belongs ? Govt or individuals. If govt then this claim of grabbing land of one party by other is wrong.

above all i want to as why you guys dont call both as Bangladeshis instead of saying we are bengalis and they are non bengalis ?

i feel its just like 71 like hate being created by one of you

Those lands were forest before.... belongs to Govt.... I guess
Our Nationality is Bangladeshi...... ethnicity is Bengali....... It was dispute between 2 ethnic groups....... thats why.........

 

[kobiraaz]

it is clearly written that bengalis attacked indigenous people and killed 3. set their houses on fie.

the news is incorrect...... Heres the news for you.....


Three people were killed, 20 injured and 30 houses burnt yesterday over a land dispute between indigenous people and Bangalee settlers at Shankhola Para of Ramgarh upazila in Khagrachhari hill district.

Five Bangalees of the injured were taken to Manikchhari upazila health complex where their condition was stated to be critical.

Hearing the news, enraged Bangalees of the adjacent Mahamonitilla village chased Adivasis away from the village and set another 10 houses of indigenous people on fire.

In Ramgarh, a group of 10-12 Bangalee settlers were ploughing a disputed land at around 3:30pm when some 15-20 indigenous people attacked them with knives and machetes to take control over the land, said Md Monjurul, acting officer-in-charge of Guimara Police Station.

Hearing this, a group of Bangalees from Bara Pilak Bazar area went to the spot and attacked the indigenous people. Soon a fierce clash ensued leaving three dead and 20 injured. The Bangalees then set fire to 30 Adivasis' houses in Ramgarh.

The dead were identified as Ayub Ali, 30, Nawab Ali, 70, and Sunil Sarkar, 35, of Bara Pilak Bazar.

Meanwhile, a press release from district unit United People's Democratic Front (UPDF) claimed that an Adivasi, identified as Remong Marma, 32, of Shankhola Para, died in the clash. The press release signed by UPDF Press Secretary Neron Chakma also claimed some nine to ten people went missing after the incident.

Khagrachhari Deputi Commissioner (DC) Anisul Haque Bhuiyan described the incident as "not-so-serious".

Talking to The Daily Star over the phone, he said they have so far confirmed two deaths.

Section-144 was imposed in both Ramgarh and Manikchhari after the string of clashes between Banglaees and Adivasis.

Additional police forces have been deployed to prevent further untoward incident, the DC added.

Abdul Ali, a local, over the phone said the Bangalee people own the piece of land and have been using the land for a long time. But recently some Karbaries (village head) were trying to grab the land.

Failing to do so, they resorted to violence, Abdul added.

Cippru Marma, of the area, however, said the incident took place as the settlers wanted to grab their land.

Zahadul Alam, general secretary of district unit Awami League, visited the spot and urged people to maintain peace and show respect to laws.

http://www.thedailystar.net/newDesign/news-details.php?nid=182081

 

[kobiraaz]

Wife of Sunil Sarkar after his death (BENGALI)

 

[desioptimist]

In India, much of the popularity of maoists within tribal community is due to the exploitation of tribal people. Contractors, police and other mafia simply disregard their rights. Blaming neighboring country and fighting insurgents with arms is easier than solving the issue.
Cant blame your politicians when we have bigger problem in India.

 

[Skies]

who are the legitimate owners ? chakmas or bengalis ?

after reading the details one more thing i want to ask how come the chakmas (kings and their kins in the past ) had Muslim or mongol names but with passage of time towards era of East India company and onwards they adopted hindu names ?

if they were budhists why Muslim names ?

Mostly the legitimate owners are the indigenous people there, also the govt has huge land property there. But I think, the indigenous people do not like the settlement of Bangalies there. I think they may have unnecessary negative perceptions about Bangalies' settlement there, be it legally or illegally, may be they think that Bangalies will take over their own lands illegally someday.

Also read here:

Many of the lands in the tribal zone are owned by the tribal people. But, many other lands were not recorded in anybody's name. So, these were govt KHAS lands, where the Bangalis from other part of the country, specially from Noakhali, settled themselves. They also bought land from the Paharis. However, Paharis 1) do not want others to come and settle in their areas, 2) do not want to get themselves educated and get out of the villages, 3) do not relish development of the tribal belt, and 4) do not want to modernize their life style.

However, BD govt thinks 1) the country belongs to all. So, Bangalis can live in tribal areas and Paharis can also settle in any place of their choice, 2) Paharis must get education and become the part of mainstream of the country, and 3) Mountain areas must be connected by building roads and bridges.

There are some compatible points in the thinking of these two groups. However, there are also some points not compatible. So, there are conflicts of interest going on throughout the last 40 years.

And regarding the name:

I do not think that they use any Hindu names. May be they use their names in Bangla or their own language which seem to you as Hindu name. Like: "Pradeep" is a Bangla word which means "Light". It may seem to you as Hindu name, but it's merely a Bangla name/word. May be, I am not aware of their History of name, if there is any.

ALso look at there:

 

[Al-zakir]

Wife of Sunil Sarkar after his death (BENGALI)

So one ethnic minority group killed another ethnic minority. I wasn't awre of the existence of hindus in Hill tracts.

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

Well now you are aware.

You are not aware of many things about Bangladesh and yet you call yourself a Bangladeshi!

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So one ethnic minority group killed another ethnic minority. I wasn't awre of the existence of hindus in Hill tracts.

Well now you are aware.

You are not aware of many things about Bangladesh and yet you call yourself a Bangladeshi!

---------- Post added at 01:13 AM ---------- Previous post was at 01:12 AM ----------

So one ethnic minority group killed another ethnic minority. I wasn't awre of the existence of hindus in Hill tracts.

Well now you are aware.

You are not aware of many things about Bangladesh and yet you call yourself a Bangladeshi!

 

[Al-zakir]

here comes the supporter of the offenders. the land belong to the tribal minorities not bengalis. bengalis ambushed them and killed four. set their homes on fire. injured 20.

I understand you dislike Bangladeshis, which is within your right however it seem tribal minority killed some Bengali Hindus there.

I am neutral here man.

 

[Al-zakir]

Well now you are aware.

You are not aware of many things about Bangladesh and yet you call yourself a Bangladeshi!

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Well now you are aware.

You are not aware of many things about Bangladesh and yet you call yourself a Bangladeshi!

---------- Post added at 01:13 AM ---------- Previous post was at 01:12 AM ----------



Well now you are aware.

You are not aware of many things about Bangladesh and yet you call yourself a Bangladeshi!

So I guess your post will be three time as effective as compare to one. hmmmmm.

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

So I guess your post will be three time as effective as compare to one. hmmmmm.

You will not understand the complexity of the cyberspace to realise what has happened.

But then you would surely not be aware of that too, just as you are unaware of anything of Bangladesh!

And your gear will always be in the neutral mode!

Never engaged in learning and instead revelling in the status quo or the antediluvian!

The brain left in total rest (inertia) to remain blissfully ignorant of everything!

Reveille coming in spurts to ride your favourite hobby horse!

But then without your comic interludes, life would be such a bore!!

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

Al Zakira,

Do you really dislike Bangaldesh and Bengalis as your portray in your posts?

Check this poem out:

Sir Walter Scott. 1771–1832

547. Patriotism
1. Innominatus

BREATHES there the man with soul so dead,
Who never to himself hath said,
'This is my own, my native land!'
Whose heart hath ne'er within him burn'd
As home his footsteps he hath turn'd 5
From wandering on a foreign strand?
If such there breathe, go, mark him well;
For him no Minstrel raptures swell;
High though his titles, proud his name,
Boundless his wealth as wish can claim; 10
Despite those titles, power, and pelf,
The wretch, concentred all in self,
Living, shall forfeit fair renown,
And, doubly dying, shall go down
To the vile dust from whence he sprung, 15
Unwept, unhonour'd, and unsung.

Learn to love your Motherland.

Apart from you, in this whole forum, I am yet to find a person who has not expressed a good word about his country!

It is extremely sad!