27 Feb 19: PAF shot down two Indian aircrafts inside Pakistani airspace: DG ISPR

[Vortex]

It's neither propaganda nor is it BS.

If our attack had failed, we would have confirmed its failure, and also Pakistan wouldn't have responded the way they did.

You what ? You would have confirmed the failure?

I’m not expert in politics but I found this statement very strange.

And yes Pakistan would have told you to keep trying, we would reply you only if you succeed in your mission.

I’m not expert in military but I found this statement also stupid.

Bollywood strong side effect.

 

[TsAr]

It's neither propaganda nor is it BS.

If our attack had failed, we would have confirmed its failure, and also Pakistan wouldn't have responded the way they did.



The trishul airspace is practically over the LoC. It's a challenge to the PAF.



I hope your professionals on the forum and the ground are showing the same jazbaa against our troops on the ground. It's going to be boring if you don't.

We reveal our casualties, you don't. 'Nuf said.

I will advise you to take a few days off, go to some hill station and stay away from your news channels and also PDF.

 

[IceCold]

It's neither propaganda nor is it BS.

If our attack had failed, we would have confirmed its failure, and also Pakistan wouldn't have responded the way they did.

The whole world called Indian attack a farce. Even Indians have. Your bravado is misplaced. As for reacting the IAF violated our airspace and dropped ordinance, that was an act of aggression and we responded exactly the way we said we would.

The trishul airspace is practically over the LoC. It's a challenge to the PAF.

PAF is more than capable and willing to meet the challenge......is IAF?

I hope your professionals on the forum and the ground are showing the same jazbaa against our troops on the ground. It's going to be boring if you don't.

Ask this from your troops who are be taken out by our troops on the ground.

We reveal our casualties, you don't. 'Nuf said.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/breaking-news-3-pakistani-jawans-embrace-shahadaat-at-loc.611460/

Now stop posting BS.

 

[Windjammer]

they did.

The trishul airspace is practically over the LoC. It's a challenge to the PAF.

Lol, since when does an aircraft making a hasty exit represents a trishul, the only time IAF accepts a challenge is when they spot a UAV.

 

[ziaulislam]

Listen u dumbu.. If this story is true your one mig 21 can kill a F-16 and your mki can dodged a half dozen AMRAAMs with the speed of Mach 6, then why modi need to say that if we had Rafale's situation will be in favor of india... And there was no reason for u to cry in front of USA about Amraams & the use of F-16... dimag sa socho

Remember indis has 120bison ..so 120 bisons are per india better than all combined airforce

Forget about MKI MIG29 MIRAGES JAUGUARS

so why did india chickened out

 

[waz]

The trishul airspace is practically over the LoC. It's a challenge to the PAF.

We reveal our casualties, you don't. 'Nuf said.

You already lost a Mig and helicopter, you can lay as many challenges down as you like, you failed miserably in a clear conventional fight.

What’s more hilarious is you were the same poster who claimed India would have air superiority in 48 hours over Pakistan....

As for casualties see yesterday’s thread regarding the three shaheed soldiers.

 

[VCheng]

You already lost a Mig and helicopter, you can lay as many challenges down as you like, you failed miserably in a clear conventional fight.

What’s more hilarious is you were the same poster who claimed India would have air superiority in 48 hours over Pakistan....

As for casualties see yesterday’s thread regarding the three shaheed soldiers.

If that Trishul is a challenge to PAF, I am sorely tempted to post up photo of a giant pe nis drawn in the sky by similar means as the PAF response, but I do not want to be banned.

 

[Xeric]

It's neither propaganda nor is it BS.

I hope your professionals on the forum and the ground are showing the same jazbaa against our troops on the ground.

Oh believe me my dear they are. Our arms are so deep inside your a$$ that we can actually irritate your oesophagus!

I am currently listening to the intercepts of your Ghattak teams where your men were actually weeping over the net when they were given a concentrated dose of TNT just a few weeks back. i am ready to risk a court-martial and share the voice segment but then i know even that wont penetrate your thick skulls!

 

[randomradio]

The rest of the world has confirmed your Balakot strike failure - can't expect Modi to admit that his main action prior to the elections was a failure.

The IAF would have revealed it as a failure. But they insisted it succeeded. Twice.

And Pakistan had to respond to send a message to India and the rest of the world that Indian escalation (regardless of the damage inflicted) would be met in kind.

It's the opposite. Pakistan is asking for deescalation.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1464599

https://www.livemint.com/news/india...o-ease-conflict-with-india-1551636778808.html

3) What is the name of the dead SU-30 pilot?

We don't know, or we would have revealed. You guys have the 3 downed pilots. Only 1 was returned.

Lol, since when does an aircraft making a hasty exit represents a trishul, the only time IAF accepts a challenge is when they spot a UAV.

Simple, it was well inside the 10Km deconfliction zone.

 

[NA71]

Oh believe me my dear they are. Our arms are so deep inside your a$$ that we can actually irritate your oesophagus!

I am currently listening to the intercepts of your Ghattak teams where your men were actually weeping over the net when they were given a concentrated dose of TNT just a few weeks back. i am ready to risk a court-martial and share the voice segment but then i know even that wont penetrate your thick skulls!

No bro do not get emotional ... be patient ...We know ....from centuries .... how to deal with the filth. have faith ...

every fleeing AC makes steep turns...it looks like curved path which thiis kid is refering as TRISHUL ....SU30 before going down ...made this TRISHUL on Feb 27.

 

[randomradio]

You already lost a Mig and helicopter, you can lay as many challenges down as you like, you failed miserably in a clear conventional fight.

What’s more hilarious is you were the same poster who claimed India would have air superiority in 48 hours over Pakistan....

Most professionals wouldn't say we lost. Let's recap, shall we?

We attacked Pakistan's sovereign territory without being challenged.

You attacked 'disputed territory' and were challenged. Awantipore was a complete miss. Along with all the other targets.

As for casualties see yesterday’s thread regarding the three shaheed soldiers.

Ask your professionals what the 'actual' casualties are. Ask about Makwal.

Oh believe me my dear they are. Our arms are so deep inside your a$$ that we can actually irritate your oesophagus!

I am currently listening to the intercepts of your Ghattak teams where your men were actually weeping over the net when they were given a concentrated dose of TNT just a few weeks back. i am ready to risk a court-martial and share the voice segment but then i know even that wont penetrate your thick skulls!

How was Makwal?

 

[Ahassan]

We don't know, or we would have revealed. You guys have the 3 downed pilots. Only 1 was returned.

it was Su-30 ...

mig21 crash

and then mi17 (first report suggested 6crew and the 7crew !

try to ask your own government and clarify .... the names ...

 

[Slides]

The IAF would have revealed it as a failure. But they insisted it succeeded. Twice.

The IAF has been caught lying multiple times since 1947 and again in 2019. It's nothing new for them.

 

[Windjammer]

Simple, it was well inside the 10Km deconfliction zone.

Give it a rest, the contrails are not even over Nowshera as your big fonts claim.

 

[saiyan0321]

You already lost a Mig and helicopter, you can lay as many challenges down as you like, you failed miserably in a clear conventional fight.

What’s more hilarious is you were the same poster who claimed India would have air superiority in 48 hours over Pakistan....

As for casualties see yesterday’s thread regarding the three shaheed soldiers.

Post 2013 indian media is a great case study for how effective controlled and politicized media can be in changing and advancing a national narrative. After the events of 27 Feb the Indian media has went into over drive upon two major factors.

1. That the armed forces suffered no defeat and the difference is still as much as the difference between Gaza and Israel.
2. That Pakistan is upon the brink f destruction and would most likely splinter in a couple of years.

Now for the first Indian media along with the politicians and military brass have focused on a three prong assault for thus narrative. One that the balakot strike was a huge success. For this an active campaign was launched to discredit any piece of evidence that spoke on the contrary. This was utilized with secret images, secret audio and analysts repeatedly telling the same thing over and over again. In the end the very physics of the site was changed yo accommodate the viewpoint and a person being bombarded through media and watsapp messages and already struggling with the info will readily believe it. Second narrative was based upon the 27 feb incident that Pakistan lost the battle of the air as we lost a broken down old plane and Pakistan the greatest technological marvel known to man and this saw many versions some outlandish that it was laughable others just pathetic. Even the release of abhinandan is being twisted as a marvel of modi rather than a peaceful gesture of Pakistan which was focused on an image making front of a peaceful nation that will never answer aggression but never escalate. Third is being placed by highlighting how the indian armed forces are winning the post wars. We saw the submarine report. We see the trishul reports and the operations that have cost Pakistan 200 soldiers and a brigadier. These are concentrated campaigns effectively targeting the populace to preserve the image of invincibility by the government and the army. With this the first narrative is cemented.

Second we see the splintering of Pakistan. Indian media has always given space to terror attacks in Pakistan as well as twisting of facts to suit narratives as we have seen of loadshedding protests being claimed as independence protests. However recently I have seen the ante go way up post the clashes. Indian media is now openly supporting terrorist narratives without checking for credibility. Do you know that in the past month over 5 convoys of Chinese have been destroyed resulting in massive Chinese casualties according to indian media one of them in Karachi right next to a university? Also that the baloch terrorists have now created sniper squads which have targeted and inflicted huge casualties upon the Pakistan army the past month. Also That pakistan has lost a number of check posts and complete control of every outskirt area in the past month and this is just balochistan. Kpk, sindh and GB have their own documented and extremely successful attacks. All these past month. Why? Bcz the narrative needs to spread that Pakistan is that hell hole splintering failed state which is losing on every front and before election date would be completely broken down....

By utilizing these two major topics the indian media is painting modis failures as huge success and the shortcomings of the Indian armed forces are being brushed under the carpet and the shroud of invincibility is being once more placed.

It is extremely fascinating how such concentrated campaign can mould the minds of a billion people with a simple that all those that question are traitors..