25 PKK terrorist killed by TAF airstrike aiming camps in N. Iraq!

[Worf]

25 terrorists were killed and 23 wounded​

The Chief of stuff of the Turkish armed forces annoced that a series of airstrikes was taken place against the PKK camps at Kandil and Zap.

Between 26 and 30 June 2012, three houses belonging to PKK was identified and hit with nearly 100% precision. As a result, 25 terrorists were killed and 23 wounded.

Does this mean succes?

No. These types of operations are not succesful in long-terms. The PKK has no shortage of man power and they can recruit others to replace the lost. As long as the source of all this havok is not destroyed, many more Turkish soldiers will die.

In the 1990's, in one operation, atleast 200 of the PKK terrorist were killed. The body's were lined up and media was called to take reports; this was good propaganda and it was used as a detterent.
During this time operations were taken place with big groups, unlike today, and 'special police' (Polis Özel Harekât) was used. The usage of these police teams were stoped when the AKP came to power, but they are starting to use them again. The policys of Tansu Çiller was very effective and this caused many harm to the PKK; this is why the BDP and PKK hates her. Tansu Çiller, has more 'balls' than Erdogan now. During the Kardak crisis, she was going to invade Greece; unfortunately, President Demirel, stoped her. During her time as PM, nearly all the leaders of illegal organisations were murdered; these 'organisations' supplied the PKK with money, weapons and many more stuff. By the end of the 90's, the PKK collapsed and terrorist activtys nearly came to a standstill.

However as the AKP came into power, the PKK emerged. Now our soldiers are warning the terrorists, by shouting 'surrender'. This causes them to run away or shoot back, which causes causulties.

It is time for a land attack to Kandil; the source of everything. Also the PKK has a meeting every year; with all the leaders meeting up. This can be used as an advantage.

It is you're turn to discuss....

 

[Targon]

I'm not believing the results of air strikes, baseless claims without any proof.

 

[Worf]

I'm not believing the results of air strikes, baseless claims without any proof.

I know, read the whole article that i wrote.

 

[revojam]

Solution is already exist : Armed Drones American way till the end.

 

[Kompromat]

Rest in Peace: There shall be no revenge taken of the dead.

 

[Worf]

Solution is already exist : Armed Drones American way till the end.

The missles are going to go through a cave system? I don't think so... These guys don't live outside. They have cave and underground systems.

 

[revojam]

The missles are going go through a cave system? I don't think so... These guys don't live outside. They have cave and underground systems.

They will come out their caves in the end.Deploy surveillance baloons like the ones used by ISAF in Afghanistan and when identify a human send the drones.Turn our borders into dead zones where no human lives , let the word spread whole middle-east people who dare cross turkish border never seen again.I don't care if they are innocent smugglers or PKK insurgents , kill kill kill.If AKP really wants to archive something they should acquire this technology as soon as possible.

 

[Worf]

They will come out their caves in the end.Deploy surveillance baloons like the ones used by ISAF in Afghanistan and when identify a human send the drones.Turn our borders into dead zones where no human lives , let the word spread whole middle-east people who dare cross turkish border never seen again.I don't care if they are innocent smugglers or PKK insurgents , kill kill kill.If AKP really wants to archive something they should acquire this technology as soon as possible.

Well that is a short term solution. If turkey wants the end of PKK it must take control of Kandil and kill their leaders.

 

[Ottoman-Turk]

mate , you dont have to believe it , osman pamukoglu has a word , '' i wont let my soldiers collect terrorist bodies '' there is many videos on the internet showing dead bodies , the soldeirs job isnt to pick it up and take pictures and show it to people so we believe

 

[LegionnairE]

Being on the offensive is what matters, tools are not important. But if you want to talk about this it's okay with me. From my analysis Turkish Armed Forces wants to use MALE class UAVs in order to monitor insurgent activity throught the border but this kind of UAVs are all under the command of Air Force smaller teams on the field does not have initiative over them.

I'm proposing attachment of smaller tactical UAVs to every karakol for defensive purposes. A catapult and two vestel UAVs would be ideal. If incoming attacks can be detected prematurely commanders of those outposts can take measures quickly.

I'm not believing the results of air strikes, baseless claims without any proof.

I suppose they have to share LANTIRN videos of operations to convince you...

 

[BordoEnes]

In many ways a fighter jet is more usefull then Armed MALE UAVs, In this case Predators, Reapers and Anka-B. Fighter jets can far more effective and powerfull weapons which includes Bunker Busters which are in my eyes the most effective weapons against Marxist cowards hiding underground.

 

[Ottoman-Turk]

i said the exact same thing i said lets get like 100 anka's and someone said why you need all them , think about 100 anka's , like 50 patrolling at the same time , all near a karakol.

Being on the offensive is what matters, tools are not important. But if you want to talk about this it's okay with me. From my analysis Turkish Armed Forces wants to use MALE class UAVs in order to monitor insurgent activity throught the border but this kind of UAVs are all under the command of Air Force smaller teams on the field does not have initiative over them.

I'm proposing attachment of smaller tactical UAVs to every karakol for defensive purposes. A catapult and two vestel UAVs would be ideal. If incoming attacks can be detected prematurely commanders of those outposts can take measures quickly.


I suppose they have to share LANTIRN videos of operations to convince you...

 

[LegionnairE]

i said the exact same thing i said lets get like 100 anka's and someone said why you need all them , think about 100 anka's , like 50 patrolling at the same time , all near a karakol.

Because, you genius ANKA has 17 meters wingspan there is no way she can take off or land in an outpost and it is too expensive and too complex for less trained personnel to operate. Bigger UAVs like ANKA are for strategic intelligence gathering. Small-time tactical solutions too are required.

Ever heard the word "overkill"?

 

[Ottoman-Turk]

mate when i said that i didnt mean only anka , i meant UAV it could be smaller ones but UAV's . it could be 10 anka's and like 25 vestel ones

 

[revojam]

I suppose they have to share LANTIRN videos of operations to convince you...

I can find countless videos on ******** recorded by american soldiers sending hellfire missiles and blowing insurgent to pieces.Trust me people need see this so called 25 dead terrorist corpses.

In many ways a fighter jet is more usefull then Armed MALE UAVs, In this case Predators, Reapers and Anka-B. Fighter jets can far more effective and powerfull weapons which includes Bunker Busters which are in my eyes the most effective weapons against Marxist cowards hiding underground.

Jet never ever can be used as drones.Do you have an unlimited jet fuel resource? You think its cheap scramble those jets? You think any nation can scramble 50 unit jet 7/24? Drones are perfect weapons againts insurgents because they are cheap.Whats better the baloon i talked about is the perfect surveillance platform(which can recharge itself during daylight) can stay in air like months check it out.We already created perfect UAV missile(cirit) indigenous one also more cheap.All we need is armed drone technology and mass production them.Deploy them 7/24 on Syria,Iran,Armenia borders.You guys need watch some videos on ******** how americans dealing with insurgents then you will understand why drones are perfect weapons.