2 U.S. carriers deployed

[WS-10 Engine]

No boasting here.

US submarine docks at Subic - The Philippine Star » News » Headlines


Not only Subic Bay were frequented by US subs, so was the deep water Cam Ranh Bay of Viet Nam during the Vietnam War.

How much of China's waters does the US Navy know?

On the China Patrol

DF-21D America killer can sink EVERY ship in the US navy.
There is no counter (SM-3 is a joke) to the mighty DF-21D America killer.
USN is overhyped and overrated.

 

[帅的一匹]

See what will happen if we sink two USA carriers at the first place.

 

[Esc8781]

Wow you people are acting like the Usn has no countermeasures.

 

[SajeevJino]

DF-21D America killer can sink EVERY ship in the US navy.
There is no counter (SM-3 is a joke) to the mighty DF-21D America killer.
USN is overhyped and overrated.

That is a killer weapon of your own peoples..If your missile hits a US navy ship just a 3000 marines dies...is you think america quite about your attacks...

also a small doubt is a ballistic missile perfectly hits a moving targets with speed of 50 knots

 

[anon45]

DF-21D America killer can sink EVERY ship in the US navy.
There is no counter (SM-3 is a joke) to the mighty DF-21D America killer.
USN is overhyped and overrated.

Please please please keep thinking this. I hope your generals do too! our AEGIS ships and nuclear subs are no match for Diesel subs and good old Chinese Spirit!!!!!

The USN is overhyped, China has nothing to worry about so just attack first!

 

[illusion8]

See what will happen if we sink two USA carriers at the first place.

War with the US, and that's not a very good prospect for you.

 

[WS-10 Engine]

War with the US, and that's not a very good prospect for you.

It didn't work out too well for the Americans in the Korean war.
But of course you wouldn't know anything about it because your regime has twisted the facts.

China is hyperpower, USN is target practice.

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

It didn't work out too well for the Americans in the Korean war.
But of course you wouldn't know anything about it because your regime has twisted the facts.

China is hyperpower, USN is target practice.

So why is the hyperpower unable to control its own territory?

 

[WS-10 Engine]

Please please please keep thinking this. I hope your generals do too! our AEGIS ships and nuclear subs are no match for Diesel subs and good old Chinese Spirit!!!!!

The USN is overhyped, China has nothing to worry about so just attack first!

USN will run away like they usually do. Stop overrating your military, it can't even beat a bunch of mullahs with ak-47s.

 

[illusion8]

USN will run away like they usually do. Stop overrating your military, it can't even beat a bunch of mullahs with ak-47s.

You wouldn't have fared any better in Afghanistan if you were in their shoes and your supposed friend was two timing you all the while.

But at least they got through Saddam, Gaddafi and Osama.

 

[danger007]

DF-21D America killer can sink EVERY ship in the US navy.
There is no counter (SM-3 is a joke) to the mighty DF-21D America killer.
USN is overhyped and overrated.

still some one thinking twice oh sorry multiple times to occupy taiwan and etc....
If it is PLAN and Chini army fighting with talibans... you will give within 3 days....
USA got plenty war experience but still struggling due to mountain warfare and terrain difficulties as well as guerrilla warfare....

oh i forget, ccp leaders will propose to nuke with 3mega ton..... or launch multiple delusional USA killer DF-21d.......

I forget ccp will never count your opinion.....

 

[danger007]

It didn't work out too well for the Americans in the Korean war.
But of course you wouldn't know anything about it because your regime has twisted the facts.

China is hyperpower, USN is target practice.

joke of the century...

still copying former super power weapons..... you are lucky because ccp don't dare or don't want reveal or expose it's problems....

 

[faithfulguy]

It didn't work out too well for the Americans in the Korean war.
But of course you wouldn't know anything about it because your regime has twisted the facts.

China is hyperpower, USN is target practice.

Wake up...wake up....

 

[gambit]

Oh we 'uncivilized' Confucian society do nothing of sort, we merely sit down and iron out, sometimes heatedly, whatever large and small problems we have. We don't like to solve disputes through governmental authorities either, so more often than not, the arbitrary words of village elders are treated as gospels.

And you are telling me that this model is somehow unique to China?

According to your well thought out and educational narrative, from the old world to the new world, it tells me nothing about my original comment on : "Americans have an outstanding legal obligation, they honor it" and in fact what it does is giving me a contrary understanding that the 'civilize' Americans seek every opportunity to break a legal obligation.

And you are telling me that people in the past have not broken treaties, contracts, and dishonor themselves, then kill each other to try to hide such dishonor? Chinese history revisionism to make the Chinese an exceptionally moral race. Nice.

@ #44

Aren't we getting old now old buddy and have to rely on prewar data to justify the US Navy patrolling Chinese water. Or using a submarine parking on Subic Bay as 'lurking on' another Chinese submarine.

Justify? Do you understand what the word 'justify' mean? It means to make right. I did not used it to 'justify' anything. I used historical data to EXPLAIN to you how is it possible that the USN know China's offshore regions just as well if not better than the PLAN does. Whether such clandestine presence by foreign vessels is morally 'right' or 'wrong' is a different discussion, but we are talking about TECHNICAL capabilities here.

 

[ahfatzia]

@ Gambit

1) What it has to do with China in this case. You gave me a lecture on how your 'civilized' white Americans settled disputes in the days of lawless wild west and asked me how we would've confront similar situations in the back water of the east and I answered respectfully. I don't know whether it's unique in China or anywhere else or not but that's how we settled them in my neck of wood.

2) Lame and again trying to steer away from my question to another poster: "Americans have an outstanding legal obligation, they honor it". Instead of using a thousand questions to answer one question, like you always do, you can easily ignore it because it wasn't meant for you. Your obsessions on China is also mind boggling.

3) Oh wow! I'm surprise you catch the wrong word I use, but on another hand I shouldn't be, because when people run out of arguments they usually search for others technical mistakes. BTW to know China's water is one thing but for the US to patrol them now a day in another and this was our original disagreement and stay on it.