12 countries strike TPP trade accord

[BDforever]

VN leaders said VNese, Vn economy will get the benefit from TPP, but you think he's lie, thats insulting to our leaders

I said it will lead high level corrupted politicians get benefits, be it VN or anywhere else, it will be a trend.

@BDforever stop insulting VN

stop mocking, not good

 

[Nike]

i thing @BDforever is not insulting anybody or any country. He just questing where is the profit of join TPP lies? and where is the exact point of Vietnam will get the profit she seeking by joining the TPP

 

[BDforever]

i thing @BDforever is not insulting anybody or any country. He just questing where is the profit of join TPP lies? and where is the exact point of Vietnam will get the profit she seeking by joining the TPP

i am concern as it is going to be birth of official Corporate rule over mass ppl. starting from these 12 countries

 

[大汉奸柳传志]

Great news，now we can finally see what‘s in the agreement.

I bet Japan made the biggest concession.

 

[Nike]

i am concern as it is going to birth of official Corporate rule over mass ppl. starting from these 12 countries

The most thing i am concerned with is, who is the leader and rules setter of this newly created economic block?

with the formation of NAFTA several decade ago, it is the US who get the most voice within those organizations,same with WTO, i don't see any differences though this time

 

[Viet]

i thing @BDforever is not insulting anybody or any country. He just questing where is the profit of join TPP lies? and where is the exact point of Vietnam will get the profit she seeking by joining the TPP

sis, it is not economy in the first place. according to some estimations, the US economy will gain 0.5% increase in GDP over the course of 10 years, so some 0.05% a year. that is virtually nothing. No, for America, TPP is geopolitics. and Vietnam? higher gain in GDP is expected after we signed TPP, but if we increase trades with China, the gain would be even higher, but our dependence on China would increase further. So you see, for Vietnam, it is geopolitic, too. actually, TPP has one goal: containing China.

 

[Nike]

sis, it is not economy in the first place. according to some estimations, the US economy will gain 0.5% increase in GDP over the course of 10 years, so some 0.05% a year. that is virtually nothing. No, for America, TPP is geopolitics. and Vietnam? higher gain in GDP is expected after we signed TPP, but if we increase trades with China, the gain would be even higher. So you see, for Vietnam, it is geopolitic, too. actually, TPP has one goal: containing China.

you want to increasing your profit by increasing the trade with the very country you are trying to contain against?

 

[70U63]

Modern economy slave move up to next level, congratulation everyone

 

[cnleio]

There's no free lunch, only slave & slaved to follow U.S national interests ... TPP just a tool to rich U.S not urs.

 

[bolo]

The TPP What You're Not Being Told

TPP: The Dirtiest Trade Deal You've Never Heard Of

So how much money was paid to bribe our greedy politicians into support a deal which ordinary people and the man on the street have NO IDEAS, have NO BENEFITS or what it is all about and how it will affect them? It is only when cheaper generic drugs which they are dependent upon are suddenly outlawed, that is when all the rebellion will begins. Strange isn't since most of these nations called themselves DEMOCRACY.

India which outrightly rejects international patent rights citing unaffordability will never be admitted in the TPP even if she apply to be one. Under TPP the patent right for most Pharmaceutical products will be extended.

India rejects patent on Pfizer's arthritis drug| Reuters

Sheeps will be slaughtered.

 

[William Hung]

12 countries strike Pacific Rim trade accord

By 12 countries strike Pacific Rim trade accord — RT Business

• 12 countries strike Pacific Rim trade accord
  
  Trade ministers from the Asia-Pacific region have reached a deal on the Pacific trade pact that is intended to cut trade barriers and establish common standards for 12 countries, This is the largest trade pact in 20 years and has been a long-term goal of the Obama administration.
  The bloc is headed by the US and includes Australia, Brunei, Canada, Chile, Japan, Malaysia, Mexico, New Zealand, Peru, Singapore, and Vietnam.

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[DaiViet]

The most thing i am concerned with is, who is the leader and rules setter of this newly created economic block?

with the formation of NAFTA several decade ago, it is the US who get the most voice within those organizations,same with WTO, i don't see any differences though this time

Why are you concerning since youre country not a part of the pact anyway. If there's concerns would br the member of the pact. By the way, it is win win for all members otherwise who is stupid enough to join. Why dont everyone join China leads development south china sea? Because no one wins but china.

Look at Thailand, Pinoy, South Korea, Taiwan...etc why do they want to join. The only people concern here is Chinese and Chinese worshipers.

 

[F-22Raptor]

Trans-Pacific Trade Deal a Setback for China

A sweeping trade deal concluded on Monday marks a victory for Japan and other U.S. allies in the battle with China over shaping the future of global commerce.

The 12-member Trans-Pacific Partnership, which doesn’t include China, highlights the price that Beijing is paying for delaying overhauls as other countries write a new rule book for trade across 40% of the global economy, experts say.

Japan’s leadership views the agreement as key to its economic and security goals as China expands its influence in the region, especially in Southeast Asia, where Japan has long been a major investor and aid donor.

“We will help promote regional growth, prosperity and stability by deepening economic ties with countries that share values such as freedom, democracy, basic human rights, and rules of law,” Prime Minister Shinzo Abe said recently.

China is on a weeklong national holiday and officials weren’t immediately available to comment but the official Xinhua News Agency said Sunday that TPP negotiations lacked transparency.

Some Chinese analysts reiterated the long-standing criticism that Washington conceived the trade accord to hold China back. “Will China join? Does the TPP led by the U.S. intend to contain China?” said Fudan University professor Feng Wei on his verified Weibo social media account.

Years in the making, the agreement would lower barriers to the exchange of goods and services among members, which in the Asia-Pacific region also includes Australia, New Zealand, Singapore, Malaysia, Vietnam and Brunei.

China had been invited to join the trade group, but Beijing has been reluctant to comply with many of the required rules, such as opening up the financial sector. By not being a founding member, experts say, China misses the opportunity to help shape an important pillar of the global trading system—a priority for President Xi Jinping.

“The key is whether China’s domestic reforms will be enough or sufficient. If they are not, it will have to follow the U.S. and lose its chance with the TPP to help make the rules,” said Shi Yinhong, director of the Center on American Studies at Renmin University.

The trade deal is expected to help blunt Beijing’s efforts to chart its own course for the region. Those include its own proposed and modest regional trade bloc, the Free Trade Area of the Asia Pacific, and the new Beijing-based Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank, a rival to the Tokyo-led Asian Development Bank, which is based in Manila.

Other Asian countries are more likely to join the TPP rather than a trade bloc led by Beijing unless China opens up its economy, said Masahiro Kawai, a former Japanese finance ministry official and former World Bank chief economist for East Asia and Pacific.

The world’s second-largest economy also misses out on a grouping that includes many technologically advanced countries at a time when it is working hard to introduce high-tech innovation, analysts said. And its economy needs the pressure of foreign competition to give its stalled domestic reform agenda a push, as with the productivity burst China enjoyed after joining the World Trade Organization in 2001, they added.

Two years ago, Mr. Xi announced a broad overhaul to give markets greater sway in an effort to ward off a slowdown and shift the economy to services and consumption and away from industry. Restructuring, however, has been spotty, delayed by opposition from state companies, by the sharpness of the deceleration, corporate and local government debt and excess capacity in housing and industry.

China’s own nascent trade architecture—including bilateral agreements with Australia and South Korea and a proposed and relatively modest regional free trade area—is unlikely to give it the trade discipline needed to propel its slowing economy forward, Mr. Shi added.

Still, fear of being excluded and the opportunity to use foreign pressure as a justification to push through domestic restructuring could help pro-reform groups within China over the medium term and potentially accelerate negotiations over a U.S. Bilateral Investment Treaty, analysts said.

“One of the major problems they have is how to break the monopoly of state-owned companies,” said Jing Huang, professor with the National University of Singapore. “TPP may help Chinese leaders who want reform, although of course they don’t say that.”

Some Chinese companies aren’t waiting for Beijing to act.

Zhang Kui, general manager of Bros Holding Ltd., which operates textile and apparel factories in several Chinese provinces, said its $300 million investment in TPP member Vietnam since 2012—where wages are about 60% those of eastern China—should allow it to ship goods from that country to other member nations at favorable tariff rates.

Beijing could face significant internal and external hurdles if it eventually moves to join the trade bloc, said University of Chicago professor Dali Yang, especially given concern among some that it hasn’t always followed the rules since joining the WTO. Even inside China, there is growing recognition that China’s somewhat capricious system—where regulations can be applied arbitrarily and state-owned companies still dominate large swaths of the economy—makes membership unlikely soon, he added.

“The Chinese economy needs a jolt. It really needs reform,” Mr. Yang said. “Many feel the TPP was borne out of a frustration after the WTO, that China went back on its word in telecommunication, for instance, by not letting foreigners have a major stake.”

But China is setting the stage to join TPP in a few years by lobbying European and other U.S. allies to accept China as a market economy; slowly reforming its state-owned companies and eventually forging an investment deal with the U.S., said University of Singapore’s Mr. Huang. “I don’t think they want to join very soon, it’s not realistic,” he said. “But their view is, ‘We’ll get in sooner or later.’ China is keeping its options open,” he added.

Trans-Pacific Trade Deal a Setback for China - WSJ

 

[bolo]

Why are you concerning since youre country not a part of the pact anyway. If there's concerns would br the member of the pact. By the way, it is win win for all members otherwise who is stupid enough to join. Why dont everyone join China leads development south china sea? Because no one wins but china.

Look at Thailand, Pinoy, South Korea, Taiwan...etc why do they want to join. The only people concern here is Chinese and Chinese worshipers.

I know Vietnamese care more about China than Vietnam. No Chinese make posts relating to Vietnam. Many Vietnamese post in Chinese section.

 

[DaiViet]

I know Vietnamese care more about China than Vietnam. No Chinese make posts relating to Vietnam. Many Vietnamese post in Chinese section.

What section? I know there are more Chinese in this thread than Viet.