10 captives, Over 20 soldiers, including Commanding Officer killed at Galwan border clash with China

[sms]

What's point of this thread ?
We all know there were causalities at both side and numbers big or small and it's irrelevant because mere no. of deaths do not define win or loss.

There is difference in approach, we consider putting life on line to defend nation is an honorable deed and we honor our warrior. It seems China equate dying for Nation as loosing face and never accept declare MIA/KIA numbers let alone public recognition of their supreme sacrifice.

Lesson learned, We must move forward with..
1. Prep up our defenses,
2. Accelerate border connectivity , defensive strictures and take very assertive stance and use force if required to push back on all future ingresses by PLA
3. Lobby hard and be ready to put pressure on China politically on every possible platform - remember this is same country who opposed in UN to call #1 terrorist a terrorist an rarely voted in favor of India in UN
4. Mend relations with out brother - Nepal, BD
5. Mend errors and start providing voice to Tibet, HK and Xinziang, remember that China has never shied away form providing money and material support to many elements in India
6. Accelerate border connectivity and defensive strictures and be ready to assert pressure on shipping lanes in Melaka straits - whenever it's required
7. in crease presence in SCS

Pls feel free to add more.

 

[Ultima Thule]

It's for the Chinese govt to answer

And your govt/Military gives its official statement about how many Chinese soldiers had have died in laddakh???

 

[vi-va]

stretching my friend. What he said is this,

"I understand that this is an expedient move with the aim of not irritating public opinion in the two countries, especially in India."

This means two things,

1- The Indians casualties were way too high than what is disclosed by the Indians. Therefore, if the true figures are disclosed the Public opinion in India would be irritated.

2- The Chinese casualties were way too low, may be one or two, therefore, if the true figures are disclosed it would be devastating for Indian Public opinion. Because Indians had lied to their public and disclosed 43 Chinese soldiers dead.

Either way, he has not said that there were huge Chinese casualties. It definitely is worse for India.

Also, Chinese soldiers captured tens of Indian soldiers, including their commander. What on earth are Indians thinking. If they beat us, how come Indians were in our hand.

 

[Globenim]

It's their responsibility to deny our claim and proved the proof

The reality detached Indian mentality .... inavertedly admitted.

 

[Figaro]

What's point of this thread ?
We all know there were causalities at both side and numbers big or small and it's irrelevant because mere no. of deaths do not define win or loss.

There is difference in approach, we consider putting life on line to defend nation is an honorable deed and we honor our warrior. It seems China equate dying for Nation as loosing face and never accept declare MIA/KIA numbers let alone public recognition of their supreme sacrifice.

Lesson learned, We must move forward with..
1. Prep up our defenses,
2. Accelerate border connectivity , defensive strictures and take very assertive stance and use force if required to push back on all future ingresses by PLA
3. Lobby hard and be ready to put pressure on China politically on every possible platform - remember this is same country who opposed in UN to call #1 terrorist a terrorist an rarely voted in favor of India in UN
4. Mend relations with out brother - Nepal, BD
5. Mend errors and start providing voice to Tibet, HK and Xinziang, remember that China has never shied away form providing money and material support to many elements in India
6. Accelerate border connectivity and defensive strictures and be ready to assert pressure on shipping lanes in Melaka straits - whenever it's required
7. in crease presence in SCS

Pls feel free to add more.

1. Obviously India needs to improve their defenses. But given their recent military procurement, I am not at all confident of this (especially wrt the IAF).
2. India should improve border defenses but should do so more discreetly. IIRC, road construction on the Indian side is what led to the Galwan standoff in the first place. If such an overt construction occurs again, China may repeat again, just like what India did at Doklam.
3. Not likely to work. No foreign country besides China, India, and Pakistan are willing to take a stake in this dispute because this is seen as an internal affair. Even the US has not overtly supported India's position.
4. Definitely India needs to stop bullying Nepal. India should not take its neighbors for granted.
5. This can never succeed because of India's own treatment of Muslims within Kashmir. How are they to criticize China's policies in Xinjiang without being seen as a massive hypocrite?
6. The way to apply pressure on Chinese shipping lanes is by initiating an Indian surface fleet buildup. There is no way to overtly apply pressure on the shipping lanes at all without causing war.
7. India should first try to counter Chinese influence in its own backyard (i.e. Indian Ocean) before it goes to the SCS. So far, China has been making massive inroads into the Indian Ocean (string of pearls). Soon, Pakistan will also apply large pressure in the Indian ocean once the delivery of the 4 Chinese frigates and 8 AIP subs are completed. Walk before you run.

 

[GamoAccu]

Indian news media have the names of the dead PLA soldiers

https://twitter.com/x/status/1273337237250338821

 

[Figaro]

Indian news media have the names of the dead PLA soldiers

https://twitter.com/x/status/1273337237250338821

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Deliberately planned by the Chinese MSS

 

[IblinI]

Honestly I'm not sure if the editor in chief of the Global Times would have access to this information ... the information only lies in the hands of the PLA and Xi Jinping (as CMC chairman).

Also him once confirmed all the dead on the frozen truck in UK are Chinese but later proven to be Vietnamese.

 

[newb3e]

Asked evidence, not chearleading.


Do you even know the Geography?
If not, take some lessons. Don't show ur illiteracy everywhere.

lols!!

so the whple world is lying only Siri Modi g is telling the truth and bakths are supremely educated!! wow!!!

 

[The BrOkEn HeArT]

lols!!

so the whple world is lying only Siri Modi g is telling the truth and bakths are supremely educated!! wow!!!

PDF is the whole world?

 

[newb3e]

PDF is the whole world?

no the bubble created by Siri Modi g is the whole world

 

[crankthatskunk]

It's their responsibility to deny our claim and proved the proof ,like India said Pakistan used the regular troops during kargil and Pakistan kept saying they are mujahedeen,we had to bury their dead and 10 years later they accept they are their soldiers .

Some of the peaks in Kargil are still with Pakistan. Live with that fact. Idios.

It's their responsibility to deny our claim and proved the proof ,like India said Pakistan used the regular troops during kargil and Pakistan kept saying they are mujahedeen,we had to bury their dead and 10 years later they accept they are their soldiers .

So they have to prove that their soldier were not killed!!

Which soldiers do you want to see were not killed!! Provide their names so Chinese can produce them for the media that they are still alive.

And this time not that Funny Chinese Generals list.

 

[nahtanbob]

stretching my friend. What he said is this,

"I understand that this is an expedient move with the aim of not irritating public opinion in the two countries, especially in India."

This means two things,

1- The Indians casualties were way too high than what is disclosed by the Indians. Therefore, if the true figures are disclosed the Public opinion in India would be irritated.

2- The Chinese casualties were way too low, may be one or two, therefore, if the true figures are disclosed it would be devastating for Indian Public opinion. Because Indians had lied to their public and disclosed 43 Chinese soldiers dead.

Either way, he has not said that there were huge Chinese casualties. It definitely is worse for India.

What is the big deal with 1 Chinese & 20 Indian dead ? I think opponents of China have achieved their goals which is to make India-China border clashes a public matter in India

 

[Nilgiri]

no the bubble created by Siri Modi g is the whole world

waaah modi g waaah

 

[newb3e]

waaah modi g waaah

your people have gone crazy my friend!