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Looks far more like the su 57 than the F-22 or J-20 yet we are told that the Russians don't know what they are doing Looks like they have a levcon in there. A levcon is a slick way of getting some of the performance of a euro canard except its flush with the wings which is more efficient and is...

No its not even close. The whole point of the su 57 is to match the F-22. Its basic military doctrine. Same reason that Stalin got the atomic bomb. That's not even what Janes said. As I said, not even close. No they didn't haha. But I know where you got this. There was a Janes hot link in the...

Business Insider, The Diplomat and The National Interest are not to be outdone. There is an aviation site called The War Zone. You think that because you've been reading Business Insider and The Natl Interest which I just proved are spreading libelous nonsense. or are you reading The Diplomat ?

That's exactly right. But the internet pseudo experts believe that stealth means invisible. And the F-22 is invisible and anything that deviates from the F-22 isn't invisible therefore isn't stealth. Reality is, a jet is stealth if the shape of the fuselage has been computer generated to be...

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: Here is some more from Business Insiders "top notch military/defense experts" :enjoy: I just demonstrated with 2 factual examples that Business Insider either has NO CLUE what they are talking about or they are lying or both. You have no argument here. Both the...

And then The National Interest comes along and sites the Business Insider "stealth scientists" claims -which are complete and total nonsense that shouldn't have got past the editorial board- in their hit piece. And this is how the narrative about the su 57 has come into being :eek:

Business Insider has clearly demonstrated that it has zero credibility on military matters. But the western defense underworld uses its headlines because they are hyper anti Russian and condescending. "Lets see if you can tell whats wrong with the su 57" it says. Yeah because your average...

That is complete and total nonsense driven by some hack articles from Business Insider that are full of blatant counter factuals and mistranslations. Not on par eh. Tell me what's not on par. Look at what you just did. You just ex'd out supercruise because the F-35 doesn't have it and you...

Nope. This engine is full supercruise. Either way, the F-35 doesn't have true super cruise and we still call it 5th gen. When the su 57 is done, the back will be fully serrated like the F-35. The back of the F-35 is round too Some of the avionics equipment was tested in the su 47 5th gen tec...

Russia hinted that they were going to mass produce the su 57 later as a 6th gen way back in 2016. Yet we have these reports in the western defense media that the jet is cancelled just because its not being mass produced today. By Franz-Stefan Gady November 01, 2017 Russia’s first indigenously...

It is a 5th gen bird. 5th gen avionics. Stealth. Supercruise.

That is a total hit piece by someone who knows nothing about aviation , military or the program.

The F-22 is an F-15 with LO features.

I think Russia is foreseeing a breakthrough in quantum radar. Which is why they went for the lowest profile possible even to the point where they sacrificed some conventional stealth measures on the back. The F-35 isn't like the F-22 on the back either. With quantum radar, absolute size will...

Even the su 30sm has 5th gen avionics. Its all on Kret's website. (Kret is Russia's top avionics corporation) These are fully upgraded Flankers. You seemed to be under the impression that these are Soviet era su 27's. They are not. That's like comparing the first model of the F-16 to the newest...

The Flanker is not older in compare in any way. The Flanker is a 1985 model with the more advanced 4th gen post swing wing design. The F-15 still has that early 4th gen era look with the square intakes similar to the Mig 31. And the su 35s is the most updated and advanced model. It has 5th gen...

The F-15 really looks it's age. It's an early 4th gen(1976). The Flanker is a late 4th gen. (1985) If Russia was the one cheaping out on thrust vectoring rather than the US, I think TVC would be viewed as the more advanced feature. And these contests would be no contest at all. Because the...

You more or less conceded that you know the program isn't cancelled because you questioned the idea of Russia making it a 6th gen. But then you revert back and claim that the new engine could be for something else. You were right the first time. The program is not cancelled. The Pak Fa program...

There seems to be a misunderstanding and bad reporting going on in the media about the su 57. 12 units are going into production now and development is continuing on what the Russians are calling a 6th gen variant. Testing on the phase 2 engine is happening right now. If the jet was cancelled...

Unfortunate that they got busted so fast. This is the last we will see. Just like Russian soldiers were posting stuff at the start of the Syria campaign. Then all of a sudden , it all stopped.