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    A jet built by China and Pakistan may soon be the most widely operated combat aircraft in the world

    it was effective enough to own the indian airforce for breakfast.
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    A jet built by China and Pakistan may soon be the most widely operated combat aircraft in the world

    did you even read that source? "The aircraft does not even have an effective beyond-visual-range (BVR) missile or airborne interception radar." the source says no BVR, well okay. but it also says no airborne interception radar which is literal BS, since that would mean the jf-17 is literally...
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    Revisiting 1962 war with China: When India's prestige was in a shambles

    china doesnt need huge numerical advantages. winning via huge manpower advantages are a thing of the past when you have technological advantages. did you think china CAN'T have 200k men on the borders? china actively chooses to place minimum patrols on the borders because its not seeking war...
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    Revisiting 1962 war with China: When India's prestige was in a shambles

    minor skirmishes aside, i dont think there will be. not on purpose anyways. like you said, china doesn't want a war there, it frankly controls all the areas vital to it already(specifically aksai chin). and india has zero capability to win a war there even if they wanted to, if they push too...
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    Type 052D DDG News & Discussions

    its 6800 tons. a couple meters shorter than 052DL
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    Revisiting 1962 war with China: When India's prestige was in a shambles

    ? but you still have inferior weapons, you still barely have any weapons manufacturing capability and you still don't have the money/economy in comparison to china. if there were gaps in equipment, manufacturing in 62', they were small and since then they have only grown much larger. i mean...
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    EU will not follow US’ China policy, top diplomat says in fiery debate with lawmakers

    they would like to be independent for the most part, it really is true. but i hear the us has all kinds of dirt on their ministers and whatnot and when push comes to shove, the us threatens them with it unless they do exactly what the us wants...
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    Hypothetical - Ancient Rome vs Han China

    china also had a lot of peasant rebellions all the time. in good times they were little more than minor banditry, in bad times they turned into massive roving armies. not really much different than what the romans were dealing with. i also would not call roman siege capabilities any weaker...
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    PAF New Batch J-10 C Spotted

    chinese/pakistani sources might not always be the best but what is without a doubt is that anything is better than an india source for sure. also "war proven" these days dont mean much. a su-57 lobbing a ultra long range missile from within russian airspace well outside of Ukrainian air defence...
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    Why the U.S. Trails China in Phone Manufacturing

    Sure, and i was saying its entirely possible to gather people in factory dormitories in large numbers in places other than china, heck it would be at a lower cost with lower standards for the amenities and working longer hours. additionally, chinese wages are going up, this indicates the...
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    China develops de-orbiting sail to manage space debris

    shooting at space debris can make more, smaller debris. this is why most ideas revolves around nets, harpoons, lasers and now solar sails to push entire pieces out of orbit instead of breaking them apart.
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    Why the U.S. Trails China in Phone Manufacturing

    cost of employees hasn't been a major draw for manufacturers in china for some time now. workers in south east asia are way worse off/cheaper than chinese workers, yet china continues to dominate manufacturing only letting some of the lowest end manufacturing go while it climbs the ladder from...
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    IRIAF | News and Discussions

    no. china took old school su-27s with them (or rather, the j-11A) it was very maneuverable like all flankers, and did well within visual range combat. it got whipped in BVR, sensors and general situation awareness, it had nothing to do with doctrine or "thinking outside the box" . china would...
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    China latest fighter engine is here, WS10TVC Thrust Vector Control turbofan engine official unveil

    well now you are going completely on your own assumptions about performance making claims you could have no way of knowing or backing up. in short, worthless presumptions. first, sure, it was j-7 then j-10 facing f-22s, huge gap i can agree, however, if counting from first flight, there was...
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    China latest fighter engine is here, WS10TVC Thrust Vector Control turbofan engine official unveil

    catching up is when you start with the j-8 versus f-22 and are now looking at j-20 versus j-35. again, you are insane to claim no catching up has occured when it's so blindingly obvious. sure you can claim the j-20 is not as "advanced" as the f-35 or something, that's fine, but only the wholly...
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    China latest fighter engine is here, WS10TVC Thrust Vector Control turbofan engine official unveil

    sure, i had never disagree that catching up to existing tech is easier to innovating new tech. but that's not at all the point here, you argued that china isn't catching up. yet reality shows otherwise. also you are clearly trying to mislead by saying china had the j-10 since 1998. i was...
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    China latest fighter engine is here, WS10TVC Thrust Vector Control turbofan engine official unveil

    how so? in 2005, the us had the f-22 in service, while the best in service chinese plane was the j-8 (3rd gen). if you stretch it, you could claim the j-11B was the then best made in china fighter jet. thats still 4th gen (not 4.5) against a 5th gen in 2022, the best in-production...
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    Need to adopt middle course regarding Pakistan Army!!

    sure, but again, that is not 60 years, which is what you said in the original post i responded to. china did not have 60 years in which it could spend on the economy and not worry about the military, or "keep at bay through diplomacy" as you say. it was not until the 80s that china could...
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    Need to adopt middle course regarding Pakistan Army!!

    i didnt say china went to war with the soviets. i said it was not a peaceful time. i do not call hundreds dead, with hundreds of thousands on both sides on hair trigger, ready to go to open war peaceful. i do not call the soviets preparing and openly threatening to nuke china "peaceful". it...
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    South Korea scrambles fighter jets after detecting 180 North Korean warplanes, military says

    sure, you wont find in any of my posts that says they arent. i certainly would not want to live there. i was saying at the time, in the 40s and 50s, SK was the murderous one because it had to in order to stay in power, while the north had less reason to be since it enjoyed high support...
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