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True but thats been going on for decades. It's about time there was a physical, living alliance between Turkey and Pakistan.

Hell yeah. The alliance is only as strong as your joint interests right? :)

Precisely. If China wasn't an option tho, Pak-Tur would create a mad jet fighter I think. It's just that, even if Pakistan did co-produce fighters with Turkey, there would be so many other types of fighters that Pakistan wouldn't buy that many of the co-developed fighter plane

Oh completely. That doesn't mean that egypt isn't being run stupidly though.

I don't know why everyone keeps pointing to countries to join the project as if they're just gonna donate mad amounts of cash and buy a few planes. (Saudis) We need another country thats gonna go buy 100+ more TFX. Egypt, Jordan, Azerbaijan, Pakistan, etc.. Are not going to be able to procure...

Ah. I still stand with my second statement though lol.

Turkey isn't a real ally of the west.

Then why hasn't Egypt had the balls to stop other countries from getting visas on arrival? Obviously this is targeting Turkey. Stupid people running your country man.

He's saying in Turkey we're making the mistake (that he says you're currently making) of believing that Kurds just want increased freedom and not self-governance

peace process maybe?

My eyes were too teary from laughing, thus I couldn't read the subtitles. All I understood was "please don't attack us Arabs, Turks, and Iranians. Wait until we organize and attack you." Then again, I don't speak a word of Kurdish so it's all a toss up :DDD

Surely he is however, what happens when you need to have an offensive in Iraq and the central government is threatening to try to do something? Obviously we'll take their guys down fairly easy but its a bit aggressive and would make our government think twice about doing it.

Turkish media can **** me off soo much somtimes. The guy in the video refers to the damn ship as a corvette yet in the captions and the voice-over, the idiots at NTV keep calling it a frigate >,<

Buy F-16s Iraq. Then you can't get the stupid idea of trying to intercept our airstrikes in the North (if hostilities resume, that is)

Not exactly. Economically speaking, Saudi arabia can't offer much more than oil and cash (no offence). That's why Turkey has been able to take advantage of growing markets in the Middle East. We have a lot of industries to offer to trading partners I didn't know this. Is this just a matter of...

Why does the UAE even bother to strengthen it armed forces.. it's not even a real nation. What, there's like 20 arabs in the entire country right?

who the hell cares whether you follow Ali's descendants anymore or if you have different religious practices.. stupid, stupid, STUPID people

Well I completely agree with you then. If only the Gulf would secularize a little atleast... sigh

I agree with your assessment on the ground but to be honest, supporting Saudi Arabia as a country that can not only punch its weight financially but also militarily is something in the interests of the entire Middle East, no? Or do you hate them because they don't recognize the decedents of a...

I agree. The Saudi military isn't prepared enough I'd say (I could be wrong, I hope I am) to intervene in a way equivalent to the regional prestige they want. They would be a minor partner to the more organized Egyptians, which is obviously still valuable help but they'd want it to look like...