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Disowning them would have been neither easy nor adequate. The US wanted your Army to sit on the retreating lines of the Talibs. That means a military involvement. And unfortunately for you, when in charge, militaries don't always do what you think is right. General Musharraf was in no position...

Unfortunately for you, there ain't any credible source to start with. And I take it that you are a better expert on matters as easy as this. What now? Your responsibility increases to prove it NOW. IceCold, Call me whatever, BUT and as you are seeing it, it is a BIG but, provide proof. The...

I hadn't bothered even to reply to the initial post. SOS. It is your continuous and gibberish of a rant that provoked me to respond. In a forum like this you should backup your posts with substantial links or data.

That's because there isn't any. Had there been even a single Indian Ordinance piece, PA would have gone to any extent to showcase it to the international community just to prove that its actually Indian Army that's a hindrance in the WoT.

Blueoval79, Isn't that an over statement? Because, barring probably BR and some other matured forums, most Indian military forums have similar set of posters who are always cooking/assisting anti-Pakistan conspiracy theories, with some posters punching above their weight, i.e. going to the...

IceCold, Cut the crap. I have seen that great photo of the grenade. It seems a soviet time design, could be manufactured by anyone, ex-soviet states or even China. Indian Ordinance designs are wholesomely different. Show me a credible one, design, link anything. The Major General was...

Asq, Stop cribbling. Those Saudis had sanctuaries in Astan and Pakistan. Not every Pakistani national, ISI/PA or otherwise, involved in matters pertaining to Astan was innocent. Your army had its hands full in Astan.

You are not exactly thinking. You do understand that the global community was furious at the 9/11 massacre, that people were knowing that its Astan where the trail leads, that people and nation states acknowledged that Pakistan considers Astan as its backyard for its so called strategic depth...

If you want to debate on this, then you can not keep the General out. Do you understand what you are saying? Trying to say a NO to a belligerent hyperpower in face of 3000 + ciivilian deaths, something it historically hasn't shown having the stomach to digest, (read Pearl Harbour) would have...

Asq, Had it been possible, I sure would have tested the essence of your morality and the breed of your high horse...alas, it is the cyberspace. Aside: You just revolutionarized elementary biology.:D:chilli:

Asq, Coming to think of it, why don't you spend some time on the forum, going through posts that deal with the post 9/11 situation? You think General Musharraf is an idiot to have fallen for "American requests" to join the WoT out of love and affection or for want of "some more weapon/money...

AN, Now that's like punching below the belt.;) This is a complex mindset where people actually start trying implementing certain practices which might have had some relevance in the history to present times. Grossly erronous. I recall, some years back on Valentine's day, few couples were...

Rest in Peace. My condolences to the family and friends.

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Exactly my thought. This doctrine doesn't takes into account the consequences/retributions in face of a 1st strike, albeit a tactical one from the PA. India will be hard pressed to rataliate in an overwhelming magnitude and it will possibly target all vital/critical installations and...

This doctrine, though innovative has serious limitations. What will be interesting to see is, whether the said tactical nuclear weapons will be better used on the advancing Indian troop within Pakistani territory or on the logistics beyond the IB. For, while in the 1st case, substantial loss...

Fatman17, Concur. However, this time around, keeping the whopping amount of money on the otherside of the bargain, India is ensuring that the usual strings are removed before the deals gets through. C-130s are the example to go by. No strings attached. Similar workaround with the Israelis on...

Exactly. AStan and Iraq are BIG time examples how superior technology can rip apart an inferior enemy. During gulf war, the USAF owing to its far more superior technology vanquished the Iraqi Air Force in no time. Bells ringing indeed.

Fatman17, Have you seen the IAF's shopping list? Remember how the US birdies were chirping about the Bisons superior kill rates after Cope India? Its all money Sir.

Mzubair, PAF F-16s MLUs are not exactly comparable to Bloc-52 versions AFAIK. Chances of the Current F-16s to lock on the MKI is doubtful, though in WVR the pilot's skill-set also gets into play. However in a BVR scenario the Falcon gets outsmarted. The MKI isn't a purely Russian aircraft, the...