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:disagree: DF-11 [CSS-7] - China Nuclear Forces Please compare the following: Chinese DF-11/CSS-7 Pakistani Shaheen Please don't insult hard-working Indian scientists by comparing them to Pakistanis.

It's all a spear and shield game. Sooner or later, SAMs will adapt to the threat posed by fifth gen fighters. Heck even the Serbs showed that clever use of outdated SAMs can result in stealth bombers being shot down. I think the Russian S-500 system that's under development holds a lot of...

LOL, just compare a CSS-7 with a Shaheen-1 :coffee: Yes. Their R&D capabilities are nothing.

Isn't it obvious that Pakistani ballistic missiles are just copies of Chinese missiles? Or do you really think they developed them all by themselves?

They had to cancel an order for 70 F-16s because they couldn't afford them. They bought 18 instead. And don't forget maintenance costs, which I doubt would be cheap for 5th gen fighters. Again, its much safer, cheaper, and effective to get advanced SAMs instead.

If China considers it to be important for their interests, they can export J-20s to Pakistan. But don't expect to recieve any payment for them.

It depends on how much money China is willing to lose, because there's no way in hell that the PAF can afford to operate 5th gen fighters. Personally, if I were PAF chief, I would just go for advanced SAMs.

Give me a break. :rolleyes: The Dalai Lama is of political value to India, which is the only reason why he's staying here. He is an important "card" in India's hand that we can play in Sino-Indian negotations. I personally don't care what happens to the guy, or Tibet for that matter...

I agree :tup: Now is the best time for Pakistan to milk other countries for tech, thanks to the WoT, but the MMRCA competition is making it much more difficult to do so!

Listen dude, you need to get over this. Why the hell do you have to find an equivalent word to encourage even more racism! Online, I have been called a cow-worshipper, a slumdog, a nigger (because Indians are dark-skinned?), etc. In real life, I have been called a terrorist and a camel...

If you want to sink to their level, you should insult Indian religion or Indian culture like that other Chinese poster did. Indians find that more insulting than insulting the Indian race. (or at least I do)

Never mind, I was mistaken.

But those are very isolated cases, and most Indians are not racist! In fact I would say Pakistanis are much more racist than Indians, overall.

There's no racist term for Indians! The world loves us too much to give us racist names like "chink", "nigger", "gook", "gringo", etc. That's not our fault!

Disregarding the recent craze about dicks up Shiva's , I think I too will take screenies of every anti-Indian post I see, made by a Chinese member. Hypocrisy is truly despicable.

And you're obviously American.

I think both India and China need better geography/current events classes in schools. Indians and Chinese are too ignorant! Make them learn about the world they live in!

Dude, I have said the same so many times! Some Chinese members just don't get it! I don't know what to do about it! Just ignore and move on, I guess.

The reason why India and Russia are my favorite countries: 77% of Indians have a positive opinion of India and 77% of Russians have a positive opinion of Russia. Gotta love narcissism :lol:

Defence.pk = World amirite?