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I don't know. Come find out. You love playing the Pakistan expert, high time you visited us :-) Pretty much every Pakistani understands that we - the people and government - made mistakes which contributed to 1971. And pretty much every Pakistani also knows that our mistakes were exploited by...

Tsk tsk, Asim. Don't you know we "Pakistanis" came to Pakistan on boats from the other side of the world, distributed smallpox blankets to the locals (let's call them Baluchis), killed tens of millions of them with whatever resources were available to us, then took all their land and locked them...

Quite to the contrary, Solomon2, I think you are peddling goods no one's buying. And there is a long list alright. Does one start with Vietnam? Iraq? Afghanistan? Hawaii? Latin America? And does one name all the people involved? Does one incorporate the delusions of "Manifest Destiny"? Does one...

You are free to have an opinion! I am just telling it how I see it. Very much so. The conversation is in context of distribution of Indian channels *outside* India. So, I can tell you that while Indian private channels seem to be carried by a lot of satellites and I get them on cable here in...

The difference is that your voices (your media) are heard loud and clear in Pakistan. And our voices, as T-faz says, are blocked out. Whether due to fear, an interest in continuing the indoctrination of the indian populace or pure hatred.

You skipped over the part about Cheney, which is probably why you didn't get the connection. If I were to follow your logic, then I would arrive at the conclusion below: The power structure in the US, which allows rich ex-CEOs with deep vested interests, such as Cheney to ascend to the highest...

Not sure what is unclear. What would you like me to explain?

There are two principal things that affect a Pakistanis attitude towards India. 1) India's actions 2) Interactions with Indians

As I mentioned earlier, the PTV is far more balanced than the Indian channels I have seen. I don't think the PTV is brainwashing anyone, but at the same time, I do find generalizations being pursued for ulterior motives pretty disgusting. Because Doordarshan apparently does not have the kind...

It certainly helps me understand the biases that cause you to act like you do. Actually, if you had actually read the thread and even your own posts earlier, you were supplied links to syllabi which contradict the very broad and incorrect claims made in this thread. The thing is, evidence is...

And you're venturing into troll territory. Please be warned.

How ludicrous!!! Can you *PROVE* that no hate is dispensed by any school teacher against Pakistan/Muslims/Christians etc. anywhere in India? To make the claim that "students are being taught" falsehoods and conspiracy theories at a large scale, as the headline here does, is a completely...

Don't act like an authority on the Pakistani educational system. How many schools have you been to in Pakistan? As for Markus' comment, PTV isn't the only channel in Pakistan and I would say that despite being the Government owned channel, PTV is still a lot more balanced than many Indian...

I am glad you are aware of this lesson. Now perhaps you can also learn from it.

There is a LOT behind this incident, and much of it is of relevance to Pakistan. By the way, Michael Beschloss wrote a great book, "May Day", which documents this entire episode. It is worth reading. First off, this was when the Dulles brothers were working their magic and keeping much too much...

bull$hit. in pakistan there is more debate, and more points of view expressed publicly on this subject, 1965, kargil and the overall conflict with india than any other place on the planet. my children don't read "hate-filled" textbooks, nor did i come across "conspiracy theories" in mine...

And here I thought it was Cheney alone who was the bloodthirsty second coming of vlad the impaler, while all the while I should have been attacking US gov and society, from where Cheney sprung forth. What a lovely, peaceful and conciliatory world view you have!

Ouch. Off topic, but these words above are too... Please do the rest of us a favour and add "in my opinion" just to make these jarring words sound a little less painful :-) You could characterize him as the only individual involved in a "conspiracy" to kidnap the US Sec. of State who not only...

Really? That surprises me. Turkey is Europe's China, according to the Economist and has 7-8 times India's per capita income. It is also the second largest military in NATO, the largest standing army in Europe and a country that until recently, commanded an empire six times larger than anyone in...

That pic in the first post seems pretty real to me. Especially when you compare it to the actual Google Earth image of the runway in question.