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Hi, I agree that Pakistan should not be taking any type of loans, even if they are soft loans. It is like offering a drug addict free crack cocaine with the option to pay later. However, if they are hell bent of buying submarines, China and soft loans is the only viable option. There are a...

Hi Mr. Yeti, this point is already being debated in the following thread. Yes, it is sad, but there appears to be no funds for the submarines. http://www.defence.pk/forums/naval-forces/97041-pakistan-acquire-six-submarines-china-6.html

Hi Mr. Saud-404, this point is already being debated in the following thread. Yes, it is sad, but there appears to be no funds for the submarines. http://www.defence.pk/forums/naval-forces/97041-pakistan-acquire-six-submarines-china-6.html

Hi, thanks I try to read stuff in detail and caught that. Maybe Pakistan will be lucky and China will give it a soft loan. No western country will give them a loan. On a side note, it is really sad to see a country of a 180M being so financially mismanaged and having such a corrupt...

Hi, according to this article, the submarine purchase is still up in the air as there are no funds (3rd to last paragraph). Saturday, March 12, 2011 Later on speaking with reporters, Senator Lt Gen (Retd) Javed Asharaf Qazi said because of current financial crunch in the economy of the...

Hi, is this ship being completed early? I thought is was scheduled to be completed in 2013.

Hi, I meant to say that the PN would have to develop a cold start VLS. Currently the Babur is hot launched.

Hi, Mr Capt.Popeye your points are well taken. It is very easy to simply blame the person upstream for your woes or more importantly your own incompetence. The Pakistani governments(s) has been like an incompetent worker when it has come to water conservation. Due to climate change and its...

Hi, I read this detailed report by the US Foreign Relations Committee. It did not state that India was stealing water, just that there were allegations made. Pakistan has 2 major dams, and since the have been built they have lost 30+% of storage capacity due to silting up. Moreover...

Hi, were the older Mirages scrapped then or transferred to another squadron?

Hi, I wanted to expand on some of the comments made by Mr. "Thorough Pro". I completely agree with his comments. Pakistan currently does not have the heavy industrial base to manufacture heavy manufacturing/industrial and/or high tech precision equipment. This makes it dependent on foreign...

Hi, it will be interesting what version they do buy/co-develop. More importantly, can this submarine launch cruise missiles through a vertical launch system, or via torpedo tubes. If they do have a vertical launch system, then Pakistan will have to develop it.

Hi, this is simply unacceptable that children have to endure such conditions to get an education. The government is meanwhile spending billions of rupees on lodgings in Islamabad for MPs and their servants. BBC News - In pictures: Quake damage still haunts Kashmir schools

Hi, I hope the PN is negotiating with China for these improved Yuan class subs. Chinese Navy http://asian-defence.blogspot.com/2011/01/chinese-plan-latest-type-041class-yuan.html http://asian-defence.blogspot.com/2010/12/chinas-new-submarines-and-deployment.html

Hi, this is great news. The other factor one has to keep in mind is that China is the only country that will offer soft loans and grants for military purchases to Pakistan. Pakistan does not have the money to spend $1+B on German U-214 boats. In addition, the French competitor, the Marlin...

Hi, no wonder Pakistan's name always keeps popping up in the quasi-failed states list and seems to move up in the list each year. This country will waste no time in convicting some innocent illiterate poor person, and/or minority under the blasphemy law, but cannot even get its teachers to show...

Emerging threat: Cabinet to consider Chinese subs – The Express Tribune /**********************************************/ Emerging threat: Cabinet to consider Chinese subs By Rauf Klasra Published: March 9, 2011 Ministry of Defence informs cabinet that Pakistan Navy is facing...

Hi, I wanted to mention that there were cases of M1A2 Abrams tanks being taken out by IEDs and or RPG-7s in Operation Iraqi Freedom. Yes, ERA armour gives an additional level of protection to a turret, but it is not 100%. As such, if an Al-Zarrar was destroyed by these tools, it does not...

Like Hello! What is the topic being debated here? Can we kindly please get back on track. Thank you.

Hi, the current Pakistani leadership cannot make any sound fiscal decision. Look at the state of the economy, lack of power, water, and investment. They keep deferring the inevitable tough decisions. Pakistan has to many subsidies, loss making state enterprises, and lack of taxes. Pakistan...