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ISPR needs to organize another visit of reporters/ international media and take them to the areas where the payload was dropped. Additionally they also need to take the media to the supposed areas the IAF targeted. This is the easiest possible route to establish credibility and reject the claims...

This never gets old :D :D :D

Do you by any chance have the evidence for that 90% number cuz I've never heard of that number before and would like to know which study came up with that result, in what setting etc.

I already know how the system works, what I am suggesting is that the system be tweaked a little for the betterment of the forum. -If two members are down right verbally abusing each other for whatever reason both of them deserve some consequences, be it infractions, or small time bans or...

Hi all, I would like to address an issue, that I came across recently in PDF. I've been active on the board for about 8 years, in which I've learned many things thanks to the senior members, title holders, even the newbies. Suffice to say, if one is open enough to discuss issues constructively...

Nope .. didn't know that ...

-Except the fact, that for a marriage to even register as a marriage, the consent from both parties is a REQUIREMENT. The law is already present. Your suggestion is a law/modification to ANOTHER law to prevent an act from happening, which already is outlawed in the present framework. -Secondly...

What's hysterical about this thread, is that, how the minimum age of 16 years for girls and 18 for boys, for marriage ... 'fails Pakistani girls' as argued by the OP. The irony being ... The thread opener i.e. @Divergent is a poster from UK where the age of consent is EXACTLY 16 i.e. the age...

Acting as if they are an authority on a given subject, even though they don't know the first thing about it.

From what I can gather, for you Freedom= Having choices. Well going by your standards even the girls who are forced to cover up have freedom in that they can choose whatever to cover up with e.g. choices between different types, colors, designs of abaya, niqab etc etc. But you'll go that this...

Do you have any solid argument based on which you claim that it isn't valid or if there is a 'huge difference' ?

I just detailed as to how it's enforced in my opinion .. if you have a counter argument you could post it ... just going 'lol' ... and restating the question which I already answered isn't exactly a counter point.

I don't agree with that notion. The essence of freedom is more or less (in most cases) the absence of negative consequence. So for example, if we were to analyze rather traditional societies which enforce their rather conservative dress on people (yes both men and women) ... on a side note you...

Your making a very dangerous assumption here. The assumption being that men as a group are telling women as a group that you have to dress a certain way for men as a group have an innate weakness and women as a group have to suffer the consequences of that innate weakness by bending their...

This story and its reporting is reflective of the societal beliefs about the automatic victim hood status of women ... Even in a case where a woman is responsible for 17 deaths including 8 CHILDREN, the narrative is how Pakistani women have it rough. This is truly pathetic.

The girl with the bright idea of putting poison in the milk ...

The only individual that qualifies for the title of 'scum' in this story is the woman whose actions have caused 17 lives as of yet..

Why the continuous sympathetic explanation of the forced marriage then? From what I can discern so far, your opinion is that while the woman carried out what she did, she herself was a victim. My opinion, as of now she is NO victim. Her victim hood status ended for me when she started plotting...

You can't equate both ... especially in this case when there have been 17 deaths as a result of her actions. The real victims are the people that have lost their lives...