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  1. AgNoStiC MuSliM

    Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments PART 2

    “Ukraine gives no official toll of its war dead - the Ukrainian armed forces have reiterated that their war casualty numbers are a state secret - but Margo knows the losses are huge. The figures remain classified. But US officials, quoted by the New York Times, recently put the number at 70,000...
  2. AgNoStiC MuSliM

    Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments PART 2

    Isn’t that essentially what the US and EU are asking Palestinians to do? Many of the Arab countries have recognized Israel and are moving in that direction anyway. Did the US not offically recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel? Why continue to waste hundreds of billions in economic...
  3. AgNoStiC MuSliM

    Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments PART 2

    That is precisely what I pointed out - UNSC Resolutions on both disputes need to be implemented and that West has refused to use sanctions etc to force Israel and India to implement those resolutions. And I like how you describe the West’s hypocrisy in such nice terms as ‘I don’t deny there is...
  4. AgNoStiC MuSliM

    Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments PART 2

    So we’re just imposing arbitrary time limits on dispute reaolution? So if this war with Russia drags on for a decade or so, you’re fine with accepting the status quo? And the Palestinian and Kashmir disputes are not ‘grey’ - both have UNSC Resolutions passed on them and the occupying...
  5. AgNoStiC MuSliM

    Asim munier murda bad: skardu

    Since when did calling for an end to the constitutional violations and treason by the Fauj in rigging elections and meddling in politics become equivalent to ‘defending PTI like a fanboy’? Everyone here is calling for an end to the Fauj violating the constitution and allowing free and fair...
  6. AgNoStiC MuSliM

    Asim munier murda bad: skardu

    You keep deflecting. The bottom line is this - you claim that the Fauj rigged the elections to put the PTI in power - that is an admission of violating the constitution and therefore treason by the Fauj. You continue to have problems with comprehending the issue. Any election rigging in 2018...
  7. AgNoStiC MuSliM

    Asim munier murda bad: skardu

    A case against IK for what? Did he force the Fauj to violate the constitution, rig elections and install him in power? And even assuming Bajwa gets one of the Army’s other traitorous mouthpieces (Tareen or Khattak) to claim that ‘IK told us to ask Bajwa to help him win elections’, its hearsay...
  8. AgNoStiC MuSliM

    Asim munier murda bad: skardu

    Do you have trouble comprehending English? Here, let me quote it again: What part of the above do you take issue with? Who forced the Army to bring IK into power (just going with your illogical claim for a bit)? Who forced the Army to, once again, violate the constitution and commit treason...
  9. AgNoStiC MuSliM

    Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments PART 2

    And are you denying atrocities perpetrated by the Israelis and Indians over decades? I’ve seen horrific videos and images of children mutilated and massacred by Israeli and Indian soldiers. There are documented reports of Allied soldiers raping children in Iraq and Afghanistan and massacring...
  10. AgNoStiC MuSliM

    Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments PART 2

    Cold blooded political calculus - I am completely fine with that (see my first post on this thread). I just asked a couple of members to dispense with the emotional wailing and crying and morality lectures and stick to objective commentary about developments in the war. Are you really so...
  11. AgNoStiC MuSliM

    Asim munier murda bad: skardu

    I would respectfully suggest that we stop even bothering to correct Faujeets and PDM supporters on this. Its just an attempt to distract and get everyone bogged down arguing over the nitry gritty of the PTI government, when in actuality what these allegations (whether the Fauj helped or...
  12. AgNoStiC MuSliM

    Asim munier murda bad: skardu

    Nice job with the whataboutery, but when did I ever say that the Fauj violating the constitution and committing treason in 2018 was “halal”? But where we do agree is that the Fauj violated the constitution and committed treason for/against Imran Khan (as it has going back in almost every...
  13. AgNoStiC MuSliM

    Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments PART 2

    Which nation of Palestine do the UNSC Resolutions refer to then? Did Ukraine not get independence in 1991? Why should my taxes pay for Ukraine’s hubris and arrogance and antagonize Putin? The US has its own myriad domestic issues - increasing healthcare and education costs, homelessness, a...
  14. AgNoStiC MuSliM

    Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments PART 2

    How much of the White Christian world is Ukraine? Ukraine become independent from the USSR in 1991, so you’re even younger than the Palestinians. And go ahead, you provide me with a credible map from impartial sources that compares Palestine in 1948 vs what the Palestinians actually control...
  15. AgNoStiC MuSliM

    Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments PART 2

    75 years ago? Those occupations remain unresolved with UNSC Resolutions still un-implemented and the populations subjected to atrocities, discrimination and massacres. Or maybe just let the Russians do what the Israelis did to the Palestinians and then we can all show the same level of concern...
  16. AgNoStiC MuSliM

    Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments PART 2

    So you agree then that the same argument applies to the Palestinians fighting Israel and Kashmiris fighting India.
  17. AgNoStiC MuSliM

    Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments PART 2

    Don’t recall the West accepting that argument when the Palestinians and Kashmiris fought back against Israeli and Indian occupation and atrocities, so spare this thread the moral bullshit and try to stick to objective commentary. This war isn’t about ‘freedom, democracy’ and all that jazz - its...
  18. AgNoStiC MuSliM

    Asim munier murda bad: skardu

    The Fauj was also involved in sparkling sectarian tensions with their links to sectarian terrorist groups like the LeT/ASWJ, as well as the more recent extremist groups like TLP. If the Fauj can throw innocent civilians and popular political leaders in prison over fabricated charges, torture...
  19. AgNoStiC MuSliM

    Imran Khan wanted to rule for life, claims Pervez Khattak

    @Paji Your rambling posts, regurgitating Fauji propaganda, lies and half truths, are straight out of the Trump playbook - make so many half assed claims that people waste their time just fact checking your rubbish and forget about the actual issue on hand - the fascist crackdown by the Fauj and...
  20. AgNoStiC MuSliM

    Asim munier murda bad: skardu

    And who rigged and brought this parliament in? At the end of the day, the fault lies with the Fauj for rigging and manipulating governments and elections going back to Ayub Khan and never allowing democracy and institutions to mature.
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