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  1. iLION12345_1

    T-80 and T-84 Main Battle Tanks Information pool

    Oh I absolutely agree with you. But do you think we have a single person in any leadership position who can think that far ahead? Not even the armed forces leadership, they’re too busy with petty crimes unfortunately. If you ask me there is a lot more to be gained for Pakistan by supporting...
  2. iLION12345_1

    Pakistan offers 44 T80U's for western military aid

    I can definitely confirm the retirement of at least 3. One is a monument now, one is parked at the EME training complex for training (this one is still functional but as it stands is in too poor of a condition for a fight) and another one I believe was at either the central spares depot or 502...
  3. iLION12345_1

    Pakistan Army | News and Discussions

    Original Source was Indian for that as well. Indian media reported on it and even threw around numbers like 10000 rockets. How did they know this? Even if Pakistani Govt was trying to hide such deliveries, if the proof was anywhere on the internet we’d have seen it first on Pakistani Twitter...
  4. iLION12345_1

    Pakistan F-16 Discussions 2

    The request for tanks was made early on, just not reported on. It was nothing out of the ordinary, they sent such requests to basically every country, including South Korea which operated a fleet of T80Us previously but also didn’t send any, likely because they were retired already. Just...
  5. iLION12345_1

    Pakistan Army | News and Discussions

    Yes, but this is false, was reported by Indian media and rejected by Pakistani FO over a week ago.
  6. iLION12345_1

    Pakistan F-16 Discussions 2

    We have not supplied them any weapons and a single ammunition shipment that was sponsored through a third party, Britain, which was paid for in full. (That’s all that’s publicly known at least). Pakistan has had a very minimalist effect on the Ukraine conflict. There will most definitely be...
  7. iLION12345_1

    Pakistan F-16 Discussions 2

    And how exactly are we doing that? By abstaining in all votes regarding the invasion? By denying supplying any arms and armor (and also refusing requests to transfer T80s)? By buying wheat and oil from Russia? Pakistan has not and should not help Ukraine, besides, we don’t have much to help...
  8. iLION12345_1

    Pakistan Maritime Security Agency ( PMSA )

    It works a little differently in the navy in regards to defense alerts. Firstly, the Navy has ADAs too. Their eyes and ears are their MPAs in that regard, PN has a large fleet and it’s expanding more with the Sea Sultans now. They are always patrolling the region and borders to make sure there...
  9. iLION12345_1

    Pakistan Maritime Security Agency ( PMSA )

    Major difference there. PNs OPVs are classified as warships on account of the armaments on them. PMSAs ships do not carry such weaponry, there are different sea rules and legalities for something considered a warship and something considered a coast guard or policing vessel. The navy cannot use...
  10. iLION12345_1

    Pakistan Maritime Security Agency ( PMSA )

    did you even read what I said….
  11. iLION12345_1

    Pakistan Maritime Security Agency ( PMSA )

    Firstly Wikipedia is a terrible source for anything related to military assets, those are not accurate at all. The only major hovercrafts with any service in Pakistan are the Pakistan marines, what is the difference between a patrol boat, a patrol craft and a fast patrol boat as opposed to the...
  12. iLION12345_1

    Pakistan Maritime Security Agency ( PMSA )

    What I said was just an example of why an army might need a water-faring capability, not that they were the exact roles of the PCG. There is overlap sure, but it’s not that big, PMSA has much bigger responsibilities than the PCG including related to COIN, piracy, SAR, fisheries, environmental...
  13. iLION12345_1

    Pakistan Maritime Security Agency ( PMSA )

    Most armies have a “naval” (not the correct term to use, more correct would be water traversing capabilities) branch. PA is not unique in this regard. Ours is just named poorly. Picture this scenario: there’s an army base on the coast, and they need to guard the side of their base which...
  14. iLION12345_1

    Frontier Corps News & Discussions

    All things aside, please don’t use Albania as an example for anything, those bunkers were made by a psychotic dictator and are really bad at being anything but a waste of resources.
  15. iLION12345_1

    Pakistan Maritime Security Agency ( PMSA )

    The PCG is part of the army, it’s budget is included in the army budget. Has a different role. PCG is not the equivalent to other countries coast guards, PMSA is, just confusing naming.
  16. iLION12345_1

    Mechanised Divisions Pakistan Army

    Brother I take things as they are mentioned, if you say something literally, I cannot take it sarcastically. I do not deny the Type 56 was initially inducted for that role, however it has outgrown that years ago, it has effectively replaced the G3 in the PA. Any modern military Rifle can Shoot...
  17. iLION12345_1

    Mechanised Divisions Pakistan Army

    Type 56 is NOT a CQB weapon. Anyone who thinks a full sized AK platform rifle is an SMG or a dedicated CQB platform doesn’t know the first thing about firearms. They are only considered as such here out of necessity and a lack of other options. Most modern militaries don’t even consider an M4A1...
  18. iLION12345_1

    Mechanised Divisions Pakistan Army

    😂 I don’t hate them brother, The G3 is one of my favorite rifles, it feels much higher quality than the Type 56 too. In a world where we didn’t have such huge threats and adversaries I’d never complain about it, but the reality is that we do and it simply isn’t up to the task anymore. India is...
  19. iLION12345_1

    Will Pakistan and Bangladesh bury the hatchet?

    The quality of comments by Pakistanis in this thread show why they’ll never improve and are getting left behind by even Bangladesh. Small minded, brainwashed by the biased history they were taught (though tbf BDs school teach history that’s even more twisted than what we study in Pakistan) and...
  20. iLION12345_1

    Mechanised Divisions Pakistan Army

    The point is not CQB. At the distances an average soldier can engage effectively (and at the distances an average firefight will take place, even if not CQB, that is less than 300 meters) the Type 56 is the same if not both more accurate and hence more deadly than a G3 due to lower recoil and...
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