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It has British input and it may means the VLS was already adapted and a good off the shelf solution, PN may of had to pay for integrating with another, but why do that if it is working perfectly for the Royal Navy?

Well it is a British/Italian missile so we may of had no choice but to use their own VLS as opposed to they Turkish one. On another note, if that is a Wild Cat, then the UK selling us modern SAMs and choppers is a massive change as they had been very pro Indian in their stance over last 10 years

Steel cut on 4th MILGEM at Karachi, pic shows launchers for CAMM-ER and what I think maybe Wild Cat AW159!!!

No, very different beast all together. Basic airframe the same but very different. Like camparing F-15A with F-15Q

Dude, I literally just posted that

With it looking like Z-9 chopper for Chinese frigates it will be interesting to see what chopper PN chooses for MILGEM, Z-9 will be incompatible with all the NATO systems in it. My best is on Wildcat, SH-60 (unlikley I think) or we pay Italy to develop a Naval version of AW139

Looks like JF-17 will face off against Qatari Rafales at Anatolian Eagle!

Partly true, but for a simple air policing role this aircraft of just fine. Many rich countries like Austria, or Mexico do not want a fully fledged fighter but something simple that can just do routine policing duties (intercept drug runners, stray airliners etc). In this sense it makes perfect...

Interesting that PN is still taking a dual approach to weapons supply choosing both NATO standard and Chinese when it comes to Frigates. . This makes me think the next batch of Subs after Hangor may well be Turkish/Italian. Increasingly it seems Pak Armed forces will remain on course to...

World is a funny place, US now looking at Vietnam as an ally after all they did to that poor county. Iraq has F-16s! Such is diplomacy. US - Pak relationship seems to be heading to some sort of neutrality status, which, if you ask me, is a victory for Pakistan's balancing act. We are the...

No point choosing a team sir, Pindi will win hands down! :yahoo:

OK, well I have reread it and we will have to disagree, chance seems to keep changing. Let's leave it at that

Kind of weird, this is what I was saying and in post 15,481 on the previous page you contridicted me.....

I think you really overestimate Indian capabilities, most observers in the US accepted Ladakh showed the world India is both incapable and unwlling to stand up too China. Also Indian might could not stop weapons sales to Pakistan from Sweden, Brazil, Spain, Germany, Netherlands, Italy and Turkey.

Everyone here is quick to criticise but not so good at providing alternatives. What if Pakistan refuses? What then? Are people aware of the amount of shit that can befall us? Forget spares for F-16s or any new missiles for them Expect pressure on European suppliers like Germany and Italy to...

Wrath of Afghans!? You think that is what decides Pak policy? Pak Mil can keep a lot secret from the nation when it wants to. Anyway, I bow to your insider knowledge

One or two bases will not turn Pakistan to Civil War, also it is in our interests we do not destabilise Afghanistan and keep some sort of US relationship. Could be it is agreed and actioned and very few people will ever know till much later. On the equipment side I think US know that 10-15...

I think a deal could be done on basing. If the US were to lease 2 bases Pak could in return demand release of CSF or ask for EDA. As it's Army involved in these negotiations I expect some quid pro quo is the bases do go ahead. No way would we let a foreign country operate out of Pak while the...

I think much of this will possibly be decided by the US Basing negotiations. Recent NYT article qouted 3 senior US officials as saying negotiations were on going. Let's not kid ourselves, this will be a very transactional affair, Pakistan will simply demand things from US in exchange and I...

You know Chakra was an attack sub not a boomer right?