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indian will always be indian ... if we enjoy bollywood music then what's a big deal ... music has no limitation, no border. yup when it comes to Pakistani nation pride, then not conquered by india, Pakistan always want peace and we are trying but always india dont want peace and talk ...

AUz ... you gave orionhunter awsome logic ... now hope so he will not ask about logic, but AUz why we will die ... IN SHA ALLAH if war will start, always india will die and will finished :) :yahoo:

yup agree i dont think its true .... Pakistani cheeta's already busy with terrorists and PAK has better things to do in Pakistan and UAE force capable for operation,

agreed .... block 3 should evolve into a head ache with nightmare :pakistan: for enemies ...

agreed ... 101 % agreed Pakistan stands 20 year behind ..... all latest air forces using AESA system but in our near future no chance for AESA system in Pakistan. Pakistan must must reach and shown maturity of Block 3 with all possible upgrade with AESA and must make Block 3, 4.50 or 4.75...

really ... good news ... and hope so it will happens...but 2025 much late my brother ... in 2025 don't know new latest upgraded things will come out. Pakistan must go on till 2025 with necessary in all aircraft's 4.75 gen with AESA system, need fighter helicopter like mi 28 night hunter or T 129...

that's a difference between India solider and Pakistan solider ... Indian solider shoot down human life ... but when Indian solider by mistake came to Pakistan area few weeks before... we had taken him out from water and gave him a proper respect , time and as much we were can,,, we sent him...

Yes in musharaf time ... we did alot for our defense and we were going for J 10b but Zardari and NS did noting for defense ... yes must go india has 200 SU mig 30 with AESA ... and now India going for rafale too /// now we must need more then 200 aircraft jf 17 thunder with AESA and near 72 +...

dear i am following the link ... they are happy to update for Pakistan but who will wikahay ga note to BAE ... ( if we will do this how can we waste 1.2 billion in metro project(with Metro project cement and steel is coming from PML N industries ) and how can we fill our pockets,accounts and...

we must have AESA in jf 17 thunder block 2 ... 1. why we bought 16 F16 from jordon ... 2. we are wasting 1.2 billion rs metro bus project why ... why are not making our own product Jf-17 thunder block 2 with AESA up to mark ... from last five to six years we did noting for our defense .... 0...

Right now AESA is a best best best option for US ... we must need AESA system in JF 17 thunder ....

Who will upgrade all F-16 to block 60 with AESA ... impossible ... America will not do and In block 1 and 2 dont have AESA but let see after some year when other country going and will have 5th generation crafts ... we will go for AESA 4 and 4.5 crafts .... in 2015 we much have more then 200...

agreed but my friend right now ... keep hand on your heart ... and ask a question how can you match with 4.5 generation aircraft's ... right now india has 200 su 30mki and going for 5th generation .... but where we are ... every country have AESA or latest defense and aircrafts but we are still...

better now we will go upgrade block 2 to AESA engine ... because its new aircraft and will do service for Pakistan for Long long time IN SHA ALLAH ... but first we have to make JF thunder like 4.5 generation.

but i dont know when we will do modify Jf-17 ... in block 1 or 2 no AESA no important upgrades ... i was thinking we will use AESA in block 2 ... but no, how we are going for Block 2 ... i think will finish 50 aircrafts after 2017 or 18 ... and then block 3 turn will come and its will be too...

that things i was saying about JF 17 ... ... our new JF-17 block 1 and infect block 2 is not capable like our old F-16's ... then how can we match with modern and latest aircrafts ... leave 5th generation how can we match like 4 and 4.5 generation like su 35 mki, su 30mki, eurofighter typhoon...

yes you are right ... that's the point ...... who will think about Upgrade our defense in army, air force, navy etc .... PML N will not do upgrade or new things. what will we do with Metro ... PML N has to go for upgrade defense and will go for New things now...

Non Pakistani ... Taimur is a muslim name and Tipu sultan was a muslim brave person(he was like a lion) ... both are muslim name, taimur or tipu ... no a big issue which name we select, main thing is ICBM missile.

after being realistic ... i was said, see my friend ... right now india china have AESA technology, being a neighbors, we much touch now AESA technology, now we will do Upgrade our F-16 to AESA or will do with Jf thunder block 3 or will buy J-10b aircraft's .... but we must must have now more...

My dear friend ... if we have to spend once entire budget on JF-17 for AESA ... then i think we have to do ... because Simple exp hai ... kabotar ki tarha ankhain band kar laay or sochy k koi nahi dhek raha will not good for us now ... all country right now have AESA in their aircrafts...