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ISI to have more civilians at the top




ISLAMABAD: The Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) government has increased the civilian share in the senior hierarchy of the country’s premier intelligence agency — Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI).

Prime Minister Shahid Khaqan Abbasi on Sept 15, 2017 approved a proposal to increase the number of directors general (DGs) — the highest civilian post in the agency — from one to four.

The post of civilian DG in the ISI is a grade 21 position, equivalent to a serving major general of the armed forces.

Previously, there was only one civilian DG post in the intelligence agency.

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PM Abbasi approved the summary sent to the PM Office by the Defence Ministry, proposing four civilian DGs in the ISI.

In addition, the prime minister has also enhanced the number of deputy directors general (DDGs) from eight to 15. The same summary recommended the creation of seven additional DDG posts for civilian officers in grade 20.

PM approves three new DG posts in grade 21, seven deputy director slots in grade 20

According to the office order issued by the PM Office on Sept 15, “The prime minister has seen and is pleased to approve the proposal at para 5 read with the views of Establishment Division… and of Finance Division.”

The office order titled: “Revised establishment — Defence Intelligence Service (DIS) Cadre Of Directorate General ISI” was signed by the Prime Minister’s Secretary Fawad Hassan Fawad and was circulated to Establishment Division Secretary Mian Asad Hayauddin, the finance ministry and the defence secretary.

When contacted, Parliamentary Secretary for the Cabinet and Establishment Division Raja Javed Ikhlas termed the order “a routine matter”.

An official of the Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) did not comment on the development, but said that since the prime minister was the competent authority, as the ISI worked under the PM Secretariat, it was his prerogative to increase the sanctioned posts in the agency.

Formed in 1948 as an independent unit to strengthen the country’s intelligence network, ISI was formerly part of the Intelligence Bureau (IB), which handled intelligence-sharing between different branches of the military, as well as external intelligence gathering.

Its headquarters was initially located in Rawalpindi, but was later moved to Islamabad.

In 1950, ISI was officially given the task of safeguarding Pakistani interests and national security, inside and outside the country.

During the Soviet-Afghan war, ISI was strengthened and re-organised, with a handful of posts being created for civilians from the Defence Intelligence Services (DIS) cadre.

According to a former ISI official, it was in 2005 when retired Gen Pervez Musharraf approved the posting of a civilian as DG ISI in grade 21 for the first time. The process for the promotion of civilian ISI officers was slow, since there was only one DG slot, he said.

However, with the addition of seven grade 20 and three grade 21 posts, the official hoped that promotion of civilians, especially young DIS officers working in “hard areas”, would be accelerated.

In June 2013, some ISI officials had petitioned the Islamabad High Court (IHC) against the slow pace of their promotions. The petition stated that there were over 300 officers in grade 17 to 21 in the five cadres of the ISI, including the Surveillance (field intelligence) cadre, Vetting cadre, Joint Intelligence Miscellaneous cadre, Ministerial cadre and DIS.

The petition was dismissed by IHC Chief Justice Mohammad Anwar Khan Kasi in September the same year, saying that the aggrieved officials should approach the Federal Services Tribunal, which was the relevant forum for such petitions.

Published in Dawn, September 17th, 2017


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PMLn all out war against Pakistan army.
By Inducting civilians in ISI can enhance capabilities of intelligence agency in many factors. For example if you want to create finance Division in ISI to monitor black money and money laundering then you need expertise related to finance, Audit and Economy which you can never find in Pakistan Defence Forces. Similarly if you want to create Cyber Intel Division then you need top professionals with decades of experience in Cyber security and Information technology etc.
I appreciate this step and ISI should induct more professionals without outsourcing their departments to minimize risk.
 
ISI is a civilian agency and always has been. The fact a serving Three Star heads it up and has military officers on secondment does not change that.
 
I do not trust national security in the hands of any civilian officials. Even more than that, I do not trust any steps taken by the entire civilian administration in regards to anything to do with ISI.

There is only one way I can express my feelings: MY BLOOD IS BOILING. This bast*rd should be tied to the back of a pickup and dragged on the streets of Isb to make him an example before throwing his chopped head across the border at Wagah.
 
ISI is a civilian agency and always has been. The fact a serving Three Star heads it up and has military officers on secondment does not change that.
Inter "services" intelligence is not a civilian agency.. its officers have always come from "services" aka the 3 branches of military. It however has civilian officers.

N League is again trying to destroy another institution for its political gains...4-5 DGs?

Dumb bastards appointment Gen Mukhtar thinking a relative of Maryam safdars samdhis will save em..:lol:

Looks like Ajit Doval's plans are working....:yay::yay::yay:
In a thread which has nothing to do with india.

One indian arsehole pops up and starts moaning about ajit gandus n whatever without any reason.

Sukoon kar chutiye.

By Inducting civilians in ISI can enhance capabilities of intelligence agency in many factors. For example if you want to create finance Division in ISI to monitor black money and money laundering then you need expertise related to finance, Audit and Economy which you can never find in Pakistan Defence Forces. Similarly if you want to create Cyber Intel Division then you need top professionals with decades of experience in Cyber security and Information technology etc.
I appreciate this step and ISI should induct more professionals without outsourcing their departments to minimize risk.
Or political appointments can destroy the organisation!
 
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Inter "services" intelligence is not a civilian agency.. its officers have always come from "services" aka the 3 branches of military.

N League is again trying to destroy another institution for its political gains.

Dumb bastards appointment Gen Mukhtar thinking a relative of Maryam safdars samdhis will save em..:lol:


In a thread which has nothing to do with india.

One indian arsehole pops and and starts moaning about ajit gandus n whatever without any reason.

Sukoon kar chutiye.


Or political appointments can destroy the organisation!

The ISI is ultimately under the control of the army chief. If they wanted to do something that could harm it they wouldn't be able to, isn't that so? At the end of the day it's a branch of the Pakistan Army
 
Read My Signature!
Kasam kha ke bol, ISI has nothing to do with India.
Got no time for a monkeys like u..piss off or you will be banned and taken out like trash.

The ISI is ultimately under the control of the army chief. If they wanted to do something that could harm it they wouldn't be able to, isn't that so? At the end of the day it's a branch of the Pakistan Army
Do you understand whats happening sir?
Appointment of multiple civilian DGs...

While ISI has always had only 1 DG,chief.
 
Got no time for a monkeys like u..piss off or you will be banned and taken out like trash.


Do you understand whats happening sir?
Appointment of multiple civilian DGs...

While ISI has always had only 1 DG,chief.
Yes I know but wouldn't those DGs need to get the army chiefs approval before doing anything? Or am i missing something here?
 
I do not trust national security in the hands of any civilian officials. Even more than that, I do not trust any steps taken by the entire civilian administration in regards to anything to do with ISI.

There is only one way I can express my feelings: MY BLOOD IS BOILING. This bast*rd should be tied to the back of a pickup and dragged on the streets of Isb to make him an example before throwing his chopped head across the border at Wagah.
Do you even know what this Agency is & what it stands for?
Do you even know what Civilians in this agency have done for the country?
Do you even know that your entire Strategic Organization is run by Civilians? & I mean SPD, NESCOM, AWC, etc .... do remind me how man secrets were sold off by civilian officials in this organizations ---
Not every tom dick & harry gets to work in ISI, heck the recruitment procedure demands such a calibre that even your Army Officers might not be able to clear that procedure ----
there are hundreds of Contract employees working in the Agency performing technical roles at the rank of BPS 18, those guys will get nothing at the end of their service & yet they are working tirelessly ---- there are civilian field operatives doing tremendous job while conducting IBOs, Surveillance ...... so please give some credit where its due
 
@DESERT FIGHTER "Inter-Services" means amongst the intelligence services not the military. It's a hark-back to its original role, to act as a clearing house for other Agencies, which it still does to an extent.

The Army's intelligence is MI.
 
Inter "services" intelligence is not a civilian agency.. its officers have always come from "services" aka the 3 branches of military. It however has civilian officers.

N League is again trying to destroy another institution for its political gains...4-5 DGs?

Dumb bastards appointment Gen Mukhtar thinking a relative of Maryam safdars samdhis will save em..:lol:


In a thread which has nothing to do with india.

One indian arsehole pops up and starts moaning about ajit gandus n whatever without any reason.

Sukoon kar chutiye.


Or political appointments can destroy the organisation!
Ultimately ISI works under Government of Pakistan. I some how managed to get information of current ISI needs and deployment related to ICT infrastructure and security because i already experienced some Internet Service Providers companies during my professional career. You know who were the advisers of ISI officers during meetings with ISP companies these were civilians hired from Third Party companies which is very risky.
YOu can get an experienced SSG officer from Tri services or professional Doctor from Mecial Corps but from where you will get experienced ICT professional, Finance professional and Cyber Security professional?

Both military and Civilians depends upon each other. More challenges are awaited in future and we have to enhance our capabilities by mutual cooperation and understanding.
 
army chief should take over country
before things go worst and out of hand
 

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