Ukraine starts liquidation of legendary aircraft manufacturer Antonov

[HAIDER]

The government has ordered Deputy Economic Development and Trade Minister Yury Brovchenko to head the commission and ensure that within two months "the implementation of measures related to the liquidation of the concern," and to pay off the creditors of the enterprise.

According to a decree published on the official website of the Ukrainian government, the commission “should submit within three months the liquidation balance sheet” to the Cabinet of Ministers.

Ukraine's government decided to wind up the state-owned company last year after forcing Antonov to sever its contract with Russia’s United Aircraft Corporation (UAC). The decision was announced by former Prime Minister Arseny Yatsenyuk, which Moscow described as political. All the Ukrainian-Russian projects were frozen.

Antonov and UAC signed a deal to form a joint company in 2010. They agreed to cooperate in marketing, sales, design, and production of military, civilian and cargo aircraft as well as modifying new Antonov airplanes.

Ukraine ends aircraft cooperation with Russia http://t.co/gSZstu4W4tpic.twitter.com/ex1qlMhwbR

— RT (@RT_com) September 15, 2015
Established in Novosibirsk in 1946 as a top-secret Soviet aviation design and research bureau, Antonov relocated to Kiev in 1952. It manufactured passenger, cargo, and special purpose aircraft.

Among the company's best-known aircraft are the giant An-124 Ruslan and An-225 Mriya cargo planes. The world's largest airplane An-225 was built to carry the Soviet Buran shuttle orbiter.
https://www.rt.com/business/397547-ukraine-antonov-company-liquidation/

 

[Hassan Guy]

End of an era.

 

[Aasimkhan]

I feel sad. Antanov was a myth, something larger than life. Something huge, something enshrouded in mystery.

 

[Lord Of Gondor]

Sad end.
The IAF has had a good 50+ year relationship with the company:

An An-12 [BL533] flies on its run to Leh from around 1964

This An-12 shows the remnants of the temporary camoflage scheme applied during the 1971 Operations.

Three AN-12s lie parked at Leh AFS. The An-12s were a familiar site at this airfield from 1961 onwards till 1990

An An-32 taking off from an Advanced Landing Ground in Arunachal

All IAF aircraft go through the tradition of getting photographed over the Taj Mahal - The Sutlej is no exception - K2701 over the Yamuna river.

Random An 32 Pics:

 

[Penguin]

Cutting the ties with Russia means no more AN-124 production revieval
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/an-124-nears-production-revival-394533/

But, what about this then:
http://www.janes.com/article/63341/china-and-ukraine-agree-to-restart-an-225-production
http://aircargoworld.com/will-an-enigmatic-hong-kong-company-restart-the-an-225-in-china/

Also, be carefull in what exactly is being liquidated at this time. We've seen tricky news on this before:

Contrary to press reports in early 2016, Antonov was not liquidated. The company clarified the situation in a press release as follows: “The Government of Ukraine took decision on liquidation of the Antonov State CONCERN. The CONCERN consisted of three enterprises: Antonov State COMPANY, Kharkiv State Aircraft Manufacturing Company (KSAMC) and State Enterprise Plant 410 of Civil Aviation. In 2015, aiming to increase efficiency of the aircraft industry, the Government of Ukraine took decision to pass Antonov State COMPANY, KSAMC and State Enterprise Plant 410 of Civil Aviation (i.e., all three enterprises of Antonov CONCERN) under management of UKROBORONPROM State Concern.”
Put simply, Antonov continues to perform the work that it always has, only now with more support from Ukraine’s entire aeronautic industry.

http://www.defense-aerospace.com/ar...-keystone-of-new-ukrainian-aircraft-corp.html

See also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonov#Independent_Ukraine

 

[Zhukov]

What about there licensed designed and R&D?
Can we purchase there production lines and licensed aircraft designed?

 

[countryman]

What about there licensed designed and R&D?
Can we purchase there production lines and licensed aircraft designed?

Maybe Pakistan should invite Ukrainian delegates if it useful and feasible for our aviation industry and they're also interested.

 

[Aasimkhan]

What about there licensed designed and R&D?
Can we purchase there production lines and licensed aircraft designed?

I think China has already crossed Ukrainian aviation technology. We should focus on R&D with China.

 

[countryman]

I think China has already crossed Ukrainian aviation technology. We should focus on R&D with China.

Hmm, this depends on how much tech we can produce under licence but like I said we should only try if is useful and feasible for our aviation industry. In my personal view, Pakistan should focus hiring talent for own R&D instead.

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

Cutting the ties with Russia means no more AN-124 production revieval
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/an-124-nears-production-revival-394533/

But, what about this then:
http://www.janes.com/article/63341/china-and-ukraine-agree-to-restart-an-225-production
http://aircargoworld.com/will-an-enigmatic-hong-kong-company-restart-the-an-225-in-china/

Also, be carefull in what exactly is being liquidated at this time. We've seen tricky news on this before:


http://www.defense-aerospace.com/ar...-keystone-of-new-ukrainian-aircraft-corp.html

See also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonov#Independent_Ukraine

Yep. Antonov the company was ended last year, but the design and manufacturing arms were absorbed by UkroBoronProm. UkroBoronProm is now gutting the administrative parts of Antonov (i.e. liquidating stickers, couches and coffee makers), retaining just the brand, design, R&D and manufacturing sites. UkroBoronProm will basically be making planes, but marketing them using the Antonov brand.

 

[Penguin]

Yep. Antonov the company was ended last year, but the design and manufacturing arms were absorbed by UkroBoronProm. UkroBoronProm is now gutting the administrative parts of Antonov (i.e. liquidating stickers, couches and coffee makers), retaining just the brand, design, R&D and manufacturing sites. UkroBoronProm will basically be making planes, but marketing them using the Antonov brand.

What about Antonov Airlines, the Ukrainian cargo airline and a division of the Antonov aviation company? The company owns the sole Antonov An-225, the world's largest operational cargo aircraft and the only one ever completed, as well as seven AN-124.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonov_Airlines

 

[wiseone2]

The government has ordered Deputy Economic Development and Trade Minister Yury Brovchenko to head the commission and ensure that within two months "the implementation of measures related to the liquidation of the concern," and to pay off the creditors of the enterprise.

According to a decree published on the official website of the Ukrainian government, the commission “should submit within three months the liquidation balance sheet” to the Cabinet of Ministers.

Ukraine's government decided to wind up the state-owned company last year after forcing Antonov to sever its contract with Russia’s United Aircraft Corporation (UAC). The decision was announced by former Prime Minister Arseny Yatsenyuk, which Moscow described as political. All the Ukrainian-Russian projects were frozen.

Antonov and UAC signed a deal to form a joint company in 2010. They agreed to cooperate in marketing, sales, design, and production of military, civilian and cargo aircraft as well as modifying new Antonov airplanes.

Ukraine ends aircraft cooperation with Russia http://t.co/gSZstu4W4tpic.twitter.com/ex1qlMhwbR

— RT (@RT_com) September 15, 2015
Established in Novosibirsk in 1946 as a top-secret Soviet aviation design and research bureau, Antonov relocated to Kiev in 1952. It manufactured passenger, cargo, and special purpose aircraft.

Among the company's best-known aircraft are the giant An-124 Ruslan and An-225 Mriya cargo planes. The world's largest airplane An-225 was built to carry the Soviet Buran shuttle orbiter.
https://www.rt.com/business/397547-ukraine-antonov-company-liquidation/

It beats me why India cannot purchase Antonov, factories and intellectual property for few hundred millions

 

[jhungary]

It beats me why India cannot purchase Antonov, factories and intellectual property for few hundred millions

liquidation of a company can mean a lot of thing, one, and only one of them mean putting them out of business. They may have simply folding it into one of the other State Business. Or they simply try to keep the Brand Antonov but do not want to keep a bunch of production line (Much like the case of Hungry Jack and Burger King in Australia) elsewhere. Or they are simply looking to trim the production line.

either way, buying Antonov would mean you will get the people working for Antonov and the actual machine from the production line (as well as factory and so on) but you will not get the design Patent from Antonov, those are usually negotiate separately. Like in the US, if someone bought Colt Inc, they do automatically hold the pattern on M4, you will need to go negotiate the right with US Government, which co-own M4 pattern with Colt.

 

[wiseone2]

liquidation of a company can mean a lot of thing, one, and only one of them mean putting them out of business. They may have simply folding it into one of the other State Business. Or they simply try to keep the Brand Antonov but do not want to keep a bunch of production line (Much like the case of Hungry Jack and Burger King in Australia) elsewhere. Or they are simply looking to trim the production line.

either way, buying Antonov would mean you will get the people working for Antonov and the actual machine from the production line (as well as factory and so on) but you will not get the design Patent from Antonov, those are usually negotiate separately. Like in the US, if someone bought Colt Inc, they do automatically hold the pattern on M4, you will need to go negotiate the right with US Government, which co-own M4 pattern with Colt.

at least in America a company owns R&D and all the rights to manufacture
that is what you get when you own a company.

buying a company on the bankruptcy does not get you everything

 

[jhungary]

at least in America a company owns R&D and all the rights to manufacture
that is what you get when you own a company.

buying a company on the bankruptcy does not get you everything

It's the same everywhere, not just in America.

Yes, buying an company in America will get you their R&D department, but all you get is the people that working for that R&D department, they education and expertise, they cannot transfer the technology from their previous employee to you, that's illegal in corporate law...

Say you want to start making An-124 in India after you bought Antonov, you will still need to pay for the license to whoever hold the patent, in this case, UkroBoronProm, buying Antonov would mean you get the people who make these plane, but not the authorisation or technology to make those plane.