Debating the Burqa

[VCheng]

Their country their rules if someone doesn't fit there happily leave and migrated to KSA or other countries.

French law requires equal treatment of all its citizens, regardless of personal faith. Any clothing bans must be equally applicable to all.

This old post from a closed thread says it all:

Hijab: Beyond the burqa | Page 3

Well said by @Elmo.

 

[flamer84]

When will men stop commenting on what a woman can and can not wear!

The French fashion industries rely on showing women body paraded of coruse they wont like it nor allow it...I mean they can go as far as claiming a skirt is "too long" as being an excuse to "tell"a young lady what she should wear and how much to expose!

I cant be bothered about French people! They cant even joke about Charlie incident - some issues seem very limited to "others" and dont apply to them like joking about the dead or commenting on other's religion.

I wonder if their churches have mother Mary without a veil and some miniskirt on?

Had the idiot said that he wont allow it for security reason many would have bought it but he had to go with the old brainwashed jargon:



I wonder how subservience feels like when you cant eat what you wish coz you need to strut that body on the run way or

when you cant stop exercising or you will loose your contract / your lifeline! - Now that is what I call oppressive

Blh,blah,....how bout wearing the 7th century cloth in 7th century accustomed countries ? What is this nonsense about force feeding others your nonsense ?

Nobody in Europe wants to get out on the street to buy a beer and see a real live reenactmemt of Muhamed's time walking by next to him.

What's next ? Pillaging a caravan for old times sake ?

 

[Bratva]

Blh,blah,....how bout wearing the 7th century cloth in 7th century accustomed countries ? What is this nonsense about force feeding others your nonsense ?

Nobody in Europe wants to get out on the street to buy a beer and see a real live reenactmemt of Muhamed's time walking by next to him.

What's next ? Pillaging a caravan for old times sake ?

Gisele Bündchen dons a burqa to secretly visit Paris plastic surgeon | Daily Mail Online

 

[AUz]

Blh,blah,....how bout wearing the 7th century cloth in 7th century accustomed countries ? What is this nonsense about force feeding others your nonsense ?

Nobody in Europe wants to get out on the street to buy a beer and see a real live reenactmemt of Muhamed's time walking by next to him.

What's next ? Pillaging a caravan for old times sake ?

When will Europeans stop making a joke outa themselves by thinking the way you think?

Its like me going to the beach and saying "Oh, whats with all these barbaric savages wearing garments from 1st century BC and running around almost naked like Neanderthals of stone age?"

Yeah, i don't give a sh!t about that because I don't care what women wear.

Similarly, you shouldn't care much about what Muslim women wear and don't wear.

Many girls in Hijab are most likely FAR more qualified than you are...so cut out this crap of '7th century'...

As I've stated elsewhere, Islam and Islamic Civilization has finally 'arrived' in West--there's no going back. Islam is the second-largest religion in Europe now. Europeans feel uncomfortable by seeing the physical presence of Islam to such scale in the mainland continent. I can understand.

But they'll get used to it,"Inshallah!"

Note: There should be more classes/education regarding Islam and Islamic culture in European schools...so the next generation of Europeans (atheist, Muslim, Jewish, Christian) are raised more integrated.

 

[Steve781]

The burqa isn't just controversial in Europe but many are uneasy about it in the Middle Eat itself. If you look at photographs of the Middle East from forty years ago there isn't a burqa in sight.

 

[flamer84]

When will Europeans stop making a joke outa themselves by thinking the way you think?

Its like me going to the beach and saying "Oh, whats with all these barbaric savages wearing garments from 1st century BC and running around almost naked like Neanderthals of stone age?"

Yeah, i don't give a sh!t about that because I don't care what women wear.

Similarly, you shouldn't care much about what Muslim women wear and don't wear.

Many girls in Hijab are most likely FAR more qualified than you are...so cut out this crap of '7th century'...

As I've stated elsewhere, Islam and Islamic Civilization has finally 'arrived' in West--there's no going back. Islam is the second-largest religion in Europe now. Europeans feel uncomfortable by seeing the physical presence of Islam to such scale in the mainland continent. I can understand.

But they'll get used to it,"Inshallah!"

Note: There should be more classes/education regarding Islam and Islamic culture in European schools...so the next generation of Europeans (atheist, Muslim, Jewish, Christian) are raised more integrated.

Your questions should be asked if we were moving to live in Islamic countries.As this is not happenning ,nobody is going to get accustomed to what is an inferior way of life.You see,only superior civilisations conquer the inferior ones.Nobody is going to kow tow to the 7th century.

If we would want to be backward we would let the catholic church know it.

 

[AUz]

Your questions should be asked if we were moving to live in Islamic countries.As this is not happenning ,nobody is going to get accustomed to what is an inferior way of life.You see,only superior civilisations conquer the inferior ones.Nobody is going to kow tow to the 7th century.

If we would want to be backward we would let the catholic church know it.

Exactly, Muslims won't get "assimilated" to what is considered in Islamdom as inferior way of life We don't want our kids to call their moms "whores" and have no respect of parents, we don't want our men to became spineless junkies/alcoholics, we don't want our thirteen year olds s*cking three cocks a day, and we don't want destruction of marriage institutes where one girls sleeps with one guy for couple of months, then she has a one night stand and takes cum on her face, and then she gets into a "relationship" with another guy next week and sleeps with him for 1 year (if she is a "loyal" woman), and then she ends up marrying somebody like you

So when Muslims move to West for economic gains (since West is more resourceful in this time of history), Muslims won't want to leave their superior lifestyle behind and just become like locals. Hence, you see that unlike other groups (who are pretty irrelevant anyways), Muslims take good from the West (hardwork, economic efficiency, honesty etc) but however they keep their own religion/culture/civilization/worldview/lifestyle on general basis.

And Europeans have already became accustomed to Islam. They barely have a choice. What do you expect? Mosques would be banned, Halal shops and industry clamped down, Hijabs banned, Muslims told to leave their religion etc?

Crazy nuts of Europe would be taken care of, and mainstream diverse, multicultural life will continue to consolidate itself and become permanent reality of Europe

 

[flamer84]

Exactly, Muslims won't get "assimilated" to what is considered in Islamdom as inferior way of life We don't want our kids to call their moms "whores" and have no respect of parents, we don't want our men to became spineless junkies/alcoholics, we don't want our thirteen year olds s*cking three cocks a day, and we don't want destruction of marriage institutes where one girls sleeps with one guy for couple of months, then she has a one night stand and takes cum on her face, and then she gets into a "relationship" with another guy next week and sleeps with him for 1 year (if she is a "loyal" woman), and then she ends up marrying somebody like you

So when Muslims move to West for economic gains (since West is more resourceful in this time of history), Muslims won't want to leave their superior lifestyle behind and just become like locals. Hence, you see that unlike other groups (who are pretty irrelevant anyways), Muslims take good from the West (hardwork, economic efficiency, honesty etc) but however they keep their own religion/culture/civilization/worldview/lifestyle on general basis.

And Europeans have already became accustomed to Islam. They barely have a choice. What do you expect? Mosques would be banned, Halal shops and industry clamped down, Hijabs banned, Muslims told to leave their religion etc?

Crazy nuts of Europe would be taken care of, and mainstream diverse, multicultural life will continue to consolidate itself and become permanent reality of Europe

Dude...chill.They'll change or be changed.Mark this and take notice-tent dressed women won't cut it in here.Europe doesn t give a flying fudge about 7th century ramblings,nor will it get accustomed to it

I know you think that you matter but you really don't.Sry......

 

[untitled]

What's next ? Pillaging a caravan for old times sake ?

Pillaging third world countries and imposing your values in the name of freedom and democracy. We have alot to learn from you guys

Nobody in Europe wants to get out on the street to buy a beer and ..............

Then stop being proud of your Chrisitan heritage... oh wait you are not proud if it anyway

 

[flamer84]

Pillaging third world countries and imposing your values in the name of freedom and democracy. We have alot to learn from you guys


Then stop being proud of your Chrisitan heritage... oh wait you are not proud if it anyway

How's Australia ?"

 

[AUz]

Dude...chill.They'll change or be changed.Mark this and take notice.

LOL. They are here from DECADES now. If anything, they would have changed before when they were no institutional support present in Europe.

Now, there are networks of Mosques, Islamic cultural centers, schools to teach kids Islam, parents speaking native European languages and teaching their kids about Islam/Islamic culture in French, German, English, Italian, and what not. Now European Muslims have their own identity as Muslim Europeans! Just like now Liberal Americans have their own identity. You expect Liberal Americans to become like conservative Americans just because America was always like this?! lol, that train has gone. Liberal identity is institutional in the U.S.

Same goes for Muslims in West. As I said, Islam has finally "arrived" in the middle of European continent. European ancestors fighting the "plague of Islam" could not have imagined this in their worst nightmares.

Now, Muslim-Europeans are a permanent reality, Inshallah!

Offcourse, they'll change and become more integrated in Europe over time. Remember, integration is not 'assimilation'....

Come back when Muslims, on mass scale, start to cook pork in their households in Europe My guess: Its never gonna happen, "Inshallah!" ..

But you can keep counting on Pegida though haha

 

[untitled]

How's Australia ?"

Better than Romania... no wonder I see many of you guys here

 

[flamer84]

LOL. They are here from DECADES now. If anything, they would have changed before when they were no institutional support present in Europe.

Now, there are networks of Mosques, Islamic cultural centers, schools to teach kids Islam, parents speaking native European languages and teaching their kids about Islam/Islamic culture in French, German, English, Italian, and what not. Now European Muslims have their own identity as Muslim Europeans! Just like now Liberal Americans have their own identity. You expect Liberal Americans to become like conservative Americans just because America was always like this?! lol, that train has gone. Liberal identity is institutional in the U.S.

Same goes for Muslims in West. As I said, Islam has finally "arrived" in the middle of European continent. European ancestors fighting the "plague of Islam" could not have imagined this in their worst nightmares.

Now, Muslim-Europeans are a permanent reality, Inshallah!

Offcourse, they'll change and become more integrated in Europe over time. Remember, integration is not 'assimilation'....

Come back when Muslims, on mass scale, start to cook pork in their households in Europe My guess: Its never gonna happen, "Inshallah!" ..

But you can keep counting on Pegida though haha

Dude...they're a fringe without political power who get more enstranget by the day.Long story short ,they're basically nothing.And,which each day ,they get more resented by the real power.Iberia all over again,if you know what i mean.It's a pitty ofcourse,they are offered a good lifestyle but they choose a 7th century rambling.
Nobody really cares about Islam in Europe,apart from seeing it as a backward system,let's be real.Some immigrants rioting on the peripheries don't really matter much.We see them at a 15th century reliqve.....uneducated fools with religion on their mind...easily disposable in the end....but again,this is the "muslim world in a shell"....much noise,nothing to show in the end....hence the wars and all...."stupid be stupid".

Better than Romania... no wonder I see many of you guys here

better 10 times than Pakistan...hush,hush....

 

[untitled]

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better 10 times than Pakistan...hush,hush....

Only ten times better than 7th century Pakistan .... OK

 

[flamer84]

Only ten times better than 7th century Pakistan .... OK

Dude...i'm kind of tired of these atacks...long story short,Romania isn't really a powerhouse but,probably,my grandchildren won't see better living standards in Pakistan than in Romania.Literacy rates and all......as starter.