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Actually, if you think about it, India can do a lot......like cry like a baby, cry in front of the USA and Russia, lodge a protest against ISI in Australia, pay some third rated African president to make some quirky remarks against Pakistan in India and above all, create a false flag operation in Punjab/Kashmir to bring the world attention back to India.


Unfortunately, the last one won't help much..... because the world is in deep shyt in Middle East crisis.

And my dear Sir, what and how exactly Pakistan does on world forums?? Crying in UN about kashmir when nobody gives a tiny rats arse, again crying in UN about the expansion of Security Council for India, Crying in front of US about unequal treatment given to India, Crying in west for widening gap in defense and economical might between India and pakistan, blaming India about all terror attacks in pakistan(which no body listens, even islamic nations).

Sir, Its not us but you people who are crying with a begging bowl in their hands. All that yo do is crying.
 
Pakistan can offer Russia what India cannot. Access to Arabian Sea.

Both Pakistan and Turkey are very crucial for Russia's naval projection.

Iran is an alternative to Pakistan but Iranians are more Independent than Pakistan when it comes to making such offers or getting into such alliances.

Why do they need access to the Arabian sea? To export oil and gas to the ME or import jihadists from the Islamic magrib?

They became a superpower without said access...

infact all countries became global powers without getting entangled inside the jihad central...so..It's just a snake oil marketing.

The naval presence from Turkey?.
 
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Actually, if you think about it, India can do a lot......like cry like a baby, cry in front of the USA and Russia, lodge a protest against ISI in Australia, pay some third rated African president to make some quirky remarks against Pakistan in India and above all, create a false flag operation in Punjab/Kashmir to bring the world attention back to India.


Unfortunately, the last one won't help much..... because the world is in deep shyt in Middle East crisis.

Great analysis, think tank material :coffee:

Now lets get back to reality, nothing is more dangerous in this world then a situation of clash between two nuclear states and out of which one is so called "Rouge Nation".

And as if anyone ever cared about Middle East, neither the so called Ummah nor the western world gives a shit about it else the current situation would have not been there at first place. Its a dirty playground nothing more than that.
 
It will benefit them either way whether it is just a hoax or a real deal. Hoax will earn them more deals with india and pakistan will buy them anyway so money all around for russians.
 
Best Russian weapons
PAK FA T-50 = No
S-400/500=No

Russian AESA =No

Armata MBT= No

Nuclear Subs =No

Aircraft Carrier =No

Brahmos = No


Many more Like Like Such
S-400/500=No
Russian AESA =No
Armata MBT= No
Questionable but for others u r probably correct.
 
S-400/500=No
Russian AESA =No
Armata MBT= No
Questionable but for others u r probably correct.
Is there any report which states its offered to you.Except all these are already on offer to India
 
Is there any report which states its offered to you.Except all these are already on offer to India
I don't have and i don't think so Pakistan will go for tanks but S-400 is quite possible. If Russia offers something to India its not mean they don't sell it to any other country.

time to buy a dictionary.. spend a few bucks it will be worth the cost.Trust me. :)
Sir what dictionary you are recommending Indian written or the western one.
 
I don't have and i don't think so Pakistan will go for tanks but S-400 is quite possible. If Russia offers something to India its not mean they don't sell it to any other country.
Its Russians policy Uptill now
But since they are desperate due to economic constraints they can do such thing's now biggest example is selling of S-400 system to both china and india.

But India and china are oldest Russians allies

Pakistan is new addition to the policy it will take time to reach them at level of confidence of Russians
 
Its Russians policy Uptill now
But since they are desperate due to economic constraints they can do such thing's now biggest example is selling of S-400 system to both china and india.

But India and china are oldest Russians allies

Pakistan is new addition to the policy it will take time to reach them at level of confidence of Russians
Its u r thinking yesterday Russian diplomat in Pakistan answering a question said Russia will provide whatever Pakistan requires.
 
Why do they need access to the Arabian sea? To export oil and gas to the ME or import jihadists from the Islamic magrib?

They became a superpower without said access...

infact all countries became global powers without getting entangled inside the jihad central...so..It's just a snake oil marketing.

The naval presence from Turkey?.

I am alluding to the below.

The Straits have been of urgent maritime strategic importance since the Trojan War was fought near the Aegean entrance. In the declining days of the Ottoman Empire the "Straits Question" involved the diplomats of Europe and the Ottoman Empire.
By the terms of the London Straits Convention concluded on July 13, 1841, between the Great Powers of EuropeRussia, the United Kingdom, France, Austria and Prussia — the "ancient rule" of the Ottoman Empire was re-established by closing the Turkish straits to all warships whatsoever, barring those of the sultan's allies during wartime. It thus benefited British naval power at the expense of Russian as the latter lacked direct access for its navy to the Mediterranean.[1]
The treaty is one in a series dealing with access to the Bosphorus, the Sea of Marmara, and the Dardanelles. It evolved from the secret 1833 Treaty of Hünkâr İskelesi (Unkiar Skelessi), in which the Ottoman Empire guaranteed exclusive use of the Straits to "Black Sea Powers" (i.e., Ottoman Empire and Russian Empire) warships in the case of a general war.
The modern treaty controlling relations is the 1936 Montreux Convention Regarding the Regime of the Turkish Straits, which is still in force. It gives Republic of Turkey control over warships entering the straits but guarantees the free passage of civilian vessels in peacetime


"Montreux Convention" redirects here. For the 1937 treaty that abolished the extraterritorial legal system for foreigners in Egypt, see Montreux Convention Regarding the Abolition of the Capitulations in Egypt.
The Montreux Convention Regarding the Regime of the Straits is a 1936 agreement that gives Turkey control over the Bosporus Straits and the Dardanelles and regulates the transit of naval warships. The Convention gives Turkey full control over the Straits and guarantees the free passage of civilian vessels in peacetime. It restricts the passage of naval ships not belonging to Black Sea states. The terms of the convention have been the source of controversy over the years, most notably concerning the Soviet Union's military access to the Mediterranean Sea.
Signed on 20 July 1936 at the Montreux Palace [1] in Switzerland, it permitted Turkey to remilitarise the Straits. It went into effect on 9 November 1936 and was registered in League of Nations Treaty Series on 11 December 1936.[2] It is still in force today, with some amendments.
The proposed controversial 21st century Kanal İstanbul project may constitute a possible by-pass to the Montreux Convention and force greater Turkish autonomy with respect to the passage of military ships from the Black Sea to the Sea of Marmara.[3][4]

Montreux Convention Regarding the Regime of the Straits - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Bosphorus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Turkish Straits - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Its u r thinking yesterday Russian diplomat in Pakistan answering a question said Russia will provide whatever Pakistan requires.
There is difference btw what they will provide and what they really can provide.
As of now there is nothing on ground Except news paper's headlines

Whereas India will sign more than 5 billion $ worth defence deals in this year End itself
 
There is difference btw what they will provide and what they really can provide.
As of now there is nothing on ground Except news paper's headlines

Whereas India will sign more than 5 billion $ worth defence deals in this year End itself
Lets see till then read the paper news Pakistan already signed billions worth defense deals this year lets see how much Russia will get. Personally i don't like Russia junk they are quite accident prone stuff quality standards are quite low as compare to western products. I hope Pakistan will not sign major deal with Russia like jets etc.
 
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