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Those 500 turtles on the Chinese boat
 
oh its clear now you have exactly ZERO idea of what you are taking about, a flanker, such as the su-30 or su-27 or its chinese variants, j--11/B, has 3000-3500 km range, more than enough to take off from hainan and have sufficient loiter time over the scs(distance of about 1000 km). now vietnam has 34(su-30 and su-27) current with 12 more (su-30) on order, PLAAF on the other hand flys close to 300 flanker variants, and the PLAN as an additional 70ish(and increasing). China can easily put a sizable fleet in the air over the SCS, and it doesn't even have to be all of them, not even close, just 20% of the chinese flanker force is more than twice of what vietnam operates. therefore you claim is completely wrong.



who on earth said, they would fly close to the vietnamese coast? and the chinese navy can sink the entire vietnamese navy then have your air force for dessert. with a large number of 054A and 052C and soon 052D which far out ranges the KH-59ME(export) version which vietnam operates,(~120km range), the hhq-9 on the 052c max range is 200km in other words, those su-22s would never get close enough to launch any missiles worth worrying about. ur migs are even more laughable, mig-21/j-7 are known for their short legs, they can at best go 500km before having to turn back, if u wanna get into battle at all, the range is far shorter than 500km, which makes then good for point defence, not so good for attacking out to sea.



oh lol. is that what you think? the subs are 1000x more survivable in a naval war with china than any of your jets, because if those jets take off, they're not going back home. while the subs at least have a chance if they keep quiet, and china still has a weak link in the form of its asw capabilities compared with its advances in other areas.



hahah, you are getting funnier and funnier, you plan to use a land based rocket system with 150km range to strike at targets 500km+ away? just how delusional are you? the reason china can park a s-300/hq-9 system in the islands is because its safe from other forms of attack, namely attacks from naval ships, given the vast PLAN superiority over the vietnamese navy, any s-300 system you park on an island is going to be toast, not by planes but by attacks from ships, and china doesnt need to park any such system really, cause the 052c carrys the naval version of the hq-9 anyways.

so to sum it up.

vietnam has about zero advantages once we are 300km or so away from its coast
your missiles dont have the range
you navy cant protect your islands
your airforce cant achieve any kind of air supirority

ps: stop confusing what the soviet/russians operate with what they export(downgraded) to vietnam, there is a huge difference.


Correct me if I am Wrong

China must maintain the large number of their Platform weapons in several fronts at once, not only two or three but at least four Front

1. They must keep a large number of their missile forces, land forces and Fighter jets against India border
2. They must keep a large number of their missile forces, Naval assets and fighter jets against Japan and possibly US 7th fleet near Senkaku Island and Okinawa
3. They must keep a large number of their missile forces, Naval assets and fighter jets against Taiwan and almost surely US intervention near Taiwan Strait
4. They must keep considerable number of their land troops, missile forces and jet fighter near North Korean border, to prevent refugee intruding, and possibly Korean Peninsular Conflict
5. They must keep a considerable maybe small number of their Land forces, and Air Forces assets near Russian border to keep a parity against their (Russian Armed Forces) assets there.
6. They must keep a considerable large number of their Naval and Air Forces assets in South China Sea Region, possibly against Vietnam and Philippine

You've got your hand's full, and yet you still wanna to make a new problems against Indonesia and several other ASEAN member such as Myanmar (by backing several rebellion there) and Malaysia. China think they are John Wayne or Johny Rambo, it's very funny.
 
Again , it is our EEZ.

And we know what to do , 981 is there ,isn't it ?

No, don't lie. this toy is in EZZ from Coastline and Hoang Sa Islands EZZ of Vietnam now.

could you let it for ever ?, no move back to China ? it is very expensive toy. many corrouption officail in China got enough money from contruction of it. Think move !
 
Do you guys think that Vietnam will one day request direct support from the US or India to counter China? Like Japan, Philippines etc?
 
For Chinese warships, there're Vietnam warships ...
As informed by US, 4 Chinese warships under monitoring of some US warships nearby ...
Some photos of Chinese warships taken by MH60 Sea hawk take off from US warships

US will dare do nothing. Everybody monitors everybody's actions. Do not think China does not monitor the US in the Asia-Pacific?
 
No, don't lie. this toy is in EZZ from Coastline and Hoang Sa Islands EZZ of Vietnam now.

could you let it for ever ?, no move back to China ? it is very expensive toy. many corrouption officail in China got enough money from contruction of it. Think move !
10B dollars toy can make 10000B oil or gas. We know the math, no thanks.
 
US is even worst. Talk but totally no action. Remember georgia and ukraine? :lol:

i think US had the most military activity in the world since the collapse of Sovyet Union, you Chinese are talk the talk but you can't walk the walk of the US had going through in this decade
 
Chinese mental boys always have delusion about the World
 
Do you guys think that Vietnam will one day request direct support from the US or India to counter China? Like Japan, Philippines etc?

There's a price, look at the Pinoys they are having yankee stationing on its soil. What do you think about Russian's reaction would be if yankee are allowed to use VN's ports?
 
i think US had the most military activity in the world since the collapse of Sovyet Union, you Chinese are talk the talk but you can't walk the walk of the US had going through in this decade
Even during Soviet union time, US was also the No1 power , Soviet union never surpassed US.
 
Do you guys think that Vietnam will one day request direct support from the US or India to counter China? Like Japan, Philippines etc?
Maybe, but it'll still long time for that. That's when Chinese made a all out war or destroyed Vietnam Navy.
Vietnam - US relationship and Vietnam - China relationship are not fit for that, now.
Situation still can be solved by diplomacy.
 

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